The Catch 22 Concerning Chinese Democracy

[afp77]

The Ultimate Resolution is this:

Chinese Democracy comes out as the "Axl Rose Project"...It's a great success and inspires the reunion of the original lineup. They go on to tour and record an album and GNR are back to full strength.

WIN---WIN

[GNRreunioneventually]

i think that if the generation of today see how kick ass G'n'R is now there gonna wonder what they were like then so then AFD might go more platinum then what it is now (course then it'll give birth to more posers ) and yes that is a good point with the sucess of the new the old might be not happening. ever. BUT if they truely want to see what it was lilke back then then i believe that they will reunite for the new fans and the money will be so over the top that they wont be abble to say no


heres to a GNR reunion eventually

[acompleteunknown]

In 2013, GNR will be inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.  They will play 4 songs:  "Sweet Child o Mine" with the original line-up, "November Rain" with the UYI line-up, and "Better" with the CD line-up, then all 3 line-ups will jam on "Paradise City."

Hell, Van Halen's original line-up is getting back together and  Rage Against the Machine is re-uniting anything is possible.

ALSO...

If CD is huge.  Then the new GNR will be the current GNR.  If the CD tanks...and I mean sells like 437 copies then the original line-up will be back together by the end of the year.

[Crashdiet]

If the new gnr bombs and nothings works out for axl... he won't reunite for at least 5-10 years after the aftermath. Like someone said earlier axl isn't a quiter and he won't admit anytime soon he made bad decisions.... and he doesn't need the cash... so until his estrogen levels surpass the testosterone don't expect a reunion anytime. and 'soon' definately isn't  the word. Stop listening to crack head steven adler... the dude probably took too much crack, meet a chick with red hair and thought he had a conversation with axl about a reunion.

[BD888]

if CD fails, then there would definitely be no way in hell they'd reunite.
Axl doesnt seem like a quitter. he'd make the followup album so great only to spite everyone who doubted him.

[BD888]

if CD fails, then there would definitely be no way in hell they'd reunite.
Axl doesnt seem like a quitter. he'd make the followup album so great only to spite everyone who doubted him.

 

Is not that what he is trying to do now?

[King Axl]

Those who favor the new GN'R over the 'Appetite' era lineup are in the minority. A full-scale reunion of the original Guns N' Roses lineup would be the most anticipated reunion in music history. Had The Beatles reunited before Lennon's death, or if Led Zeppelin had carried on with Jason Bonham replacing his father on drums, those would be the only reunions that would be bigger than GN'R's. Having said all this, it will never happen. Axl's too controlling and is obviously making music at his own pace, while Slash doesn't seem inspired enough to create the kind of guitar masterwork as he did in the early days.

There is no catch 22 involving Chinese Democracy, because there is still no Chinese Democracy.

[Bartlet]

All of the "talk" about a possilbe (or not) reunion sometime got me thinking about something. If/When Chinese Democracy comes out, I fully believe that it'll be a huge hit.? If that's the case then the 2nd album is sure to be a hit as well.? That's great in my opinion, but it's also a Catch 22.? You can pretty much put a nail in the GNR Reunion coffin if the "new" version of GNR hits it huge and keeps releasing new material at a reasonable pace.? I can't wait for Chin. Democracy, but I was just wondering what other people thought about this possible situation?

i agree, but i honestly think some underestimate the will of the apetite lineup to reunite at some stage, and that may even be a factor in axl's stalling so long.

plus, this year is such a significant one to gnr history, they're bound to recieve more ridiculously lucrative offers to get back together.

[Continental Drift]

IMHO if there ever is a "reunion"- I think it will be like a 3 night gig in London, LA or New York for a ridiculous amount of $$$ and probably 7-10 years from now....

Until then... it's all about the new line-up and CD.

[GNRreunioneventually]

In 2013, GNR will be inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.? They will play 4 songs:? "Sweet Child o Mine" with the original line-up, "November Rain" with the UYI line-up, and "Better" with the CD line-up, then all 3 line-ups will jam on "Paradise City."

Hell, Van Halen's original line-up is getting back together and? Rage Against the Machine is re-uniting anything is possible.

ALSO...

If CD is huge.? Then the new GNR will be the current GNR.? If the CD tanks...and I mean sells like 437 copies then the original line-up will be back together by the end of the year.

 now thats good thinkin

now thats something that should be in a Notradamos book or something

[AxlRose4eva1]

Those who favor a reunion are not in the minority, they are in the minority on this board.  I guarantee if you just asked random people on the street 90% would favor the band getting back together, 5 % would say they hated the band either way, 3 % wouldnt care, 2% would be unsure and 1% would like the new lineup.  I mean just look at the percentage of people who have seen this new band live, or who have wanted to.  Most people have not heard the new band or heard OMG or saw the MTV performance. 

If Velvet Revolver is making money and Axl isnt then the VR guys would not drop everything to join GNR.  They would wait till the VR thing is over and then reunite.  The Hall of Fame induction is the only likely reuniting I can imagine.

[crofty]

, and possibly a cover album, SI2.

The macaroni incident?