An open letter to the fans from Axl - Discussion

[AxlRose4eva1]

If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible

To me that means they will say as soon as possible if its a date other than March 6. ?Also when you cancel a tour to work on an album you should not go out on tour before its done. ?You can save this post, look at all my posts and throw it in my face afterwards, but this album will not be out before june and as a fan, as a person who puts money into Axl's pocket I think I have a right to make comments on the present situation. ?What do you think people do on a message board but make assumptions and discuss. ?How great would this message board be if everyone said. ?Guns N' Roses is great, Axl is the best, everything he says is the truth etc... ?You can be mad, say what you want, but I am telling you based ?on ?the facts and past experiences etc... that this album will not be out soon.

[jarmo]

If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible

To me that means they will say as soon as possible if its a date other than March 6. 

And if you don't know the new date? Then what?



/jarmo

[Fingers]

Many bands have toured while releasing an album-I think VR might have? ( I remember Slash said in Detroit concert when album is coming out) Axl is not manning the cash registers-this has been a good year or so-breathe people

[AxlRose4eva1]

If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible

To me that means they will say as soon as possible if its a date other than March 6.?

And if you don't know the new date? Then what?



/jarmo

Well thats why there is a line that says "as shortly thereafter as possible" which to me means as soon as they know its not March 6, theyll tell you, and the album will come out as shortly thereafter as possible.  If that lines supposed to mean that theyll only announce when they have a firm date then the next phrase is just meaningless.  Also, many bands are touring while releasing their album, in fact i would guess its usual.  However, those bands go on tour with a single, with a firm release date, usually with a video made and as you said "Detroit"  they stay in the U.S. so that they can shoot videos, do talkshows, and radio shows and promote, they do not go to Japan.  I dont think people are freaking out, they just are offering their advice.  Mine is that Axl stops trying to please fans, cause all he is doing is alienating them.  He should come out and say what all but one paragraph of his last statement said "Its just an album, itll be out when its out, ill release it when im sure it is a good representation of GNR, if you dont want to wait then dont etc..."  Instead I think he tries to please people and generate interest and instead it just disappoints people.

[Crowebar]

I'd personally really like to know what's going on and hope they give us a firm release date soon.   

[Bartlet]

If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible

To me that means they will say as soon as possible if its a date other than March 6.?

And if you don't know the new date? Then what?



/jarmo

Well thats why there is a line that says "as shortly thereafter as possible" which to me means as soon as they know its not March 6, theyll tell you, and the album will come out as shortly thereafter as possible.?

No. it means we will be notified of a new date and then as soon as poss the album will be out. i see what you mean it is a bit confusing as some think it implies that the album will be out after that new date rather than on it, but you surely get axl's point?!!

[polluxlm]

If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible

To me that means they will say as soon as possible if its a date other than March 6.?

And if you don't know the new date? Then what?



/jarmo

Well thats why there is a line that says "as shortly thereafter as possible" which to me means as soon as they know its not March 6, theyll tell you, and the album will come out as shortly thereafter as possible.?

No. it means we will be notified of a new date and then as soon as poss the album will be out. i see what you mean it is a bit confusing as some think it implies that the album will be out after that new date rather than on it, but you surely get axl's point?!!

Yeah I get Axls point. If it isn't March 6th you will be notified when there is a date, whenever that is...

If that's how it's going to be I'd prefer he say nothing at all.

[Bartlet]

If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible

To me that means they will say as soon as possible if its a date other than March 6.?

And if you don't know the new date? Then what?



/jarmo

Well thats why there is a line that says "as shortly thereafter as possible" which to me means as soon as they know its not March 6, theyll tell you, and the album will come out as shortly thereafter as possible.?

No. it means we will be notified of a new date and then as soon as poss the album will be out. i see what you mean it is a bit confusing as some think it implies that the album will be out after that new date rather than on it, but you surely get axl's point?!!

Yeah I get Axls point. If it isn't March 6th you will be notified when there is a date, whenever that is...

If that's how it's going to be I'd prefer he say nothing at all.

what else did you expect?

he gave us a statement to limit the damge coz he was aware of the strength of feeling. which is more than he owes us. he rightly believes that saying nothing is often the best tack. i mean, he did say somkethin this time and can it honestly be said that that improved things?

[polluxlm]

what else did you expect?

he gave us a statement to limit the damge coz he was aware of the strength of feeling. which is more than he owes us. he rightly believes that saying nothing is often the best tack. i mean, he did say somkethin this time and can it honestly be said that that improved things?

After '2006 is definitely the year' I expected something more than another 'I don't know if soon is the word'.

[Bartlet]

what else did you expect?

he gave us a statement to limit the damge coz he was aware of the strength of feeling. which is more than he owes us. he rightly believes that saying nothing is often the best tack. i mean, he did say somkethin this time and can it honestly be said that that improved things?

After '2006 is definitely the year' I expected something more than another 'I don't know if soon is the word'.

OK ill agree to differ, but for the record i dont agree that his last statement was akin to "soon is not the Word".

[GNRfan2008]

what else did you expect?

he gave us a statement to limit the damge coz he was aware of the strength of feeling. which is more than he owes us. he rightly believes that saying nothing is often the best tack. i mean, he did say somkethin this time and can it honestly be said that that improved things?

After '2006 is definitely the year' I expected something more than another 'I don't know if soon is the word'.

OK ill agree to differ, but for the record i dont agree that his last statement was akin to "soon is not the Word".

No, it was the same as "2006 is the year," meaning who knows what's going to happen now. 2006 was not the year and March 6 is likely not even close to being the date. My guess is if we're lucky, a summer release could happen. But then again, we could also have another 2006 situation.

[Bodhi]

YEAH MARCH 6th!!  Has anyone heard the single on the radio? I must have missed it..

[andypa1]

Sometimes it hits me, this is such a flipping weird ass album. Something really huge must be happening. Sure weve heard songs over the last 6 years or so. and very very good ones. yet last year songs are still being written. I really wonder if the album keeps getting turned down by the record label. Either that or just a huge case of perfectionism.

Personally I think if Axl had his way, and it would be best for all the fans and the media... if he had worked on this album in the shadows whilst we all thought Guns n roses are dead and then whenever hes happy release it and create a media frenzy. too late for that now. However Guns n roses are very active so everyone wonders why it should take so long.

[bringbackadler]

If you are sitting here in Februaruy 2007 and you honestly believe that you were not mislead in some way by Axl and his management in the past 12 months, you must be delusional.

Axl knew that the album wasn't coming out last year. He definitely knew by the VMA's that it wasn't. Instead of that whole "It is this year", bullshit, he should have just said that plans have changed. How can you fire your manager for not getting the album out by year's end when recording WAS NOT complete? That makes absolutley no sense.

I agree w/ those of you who say that the band does not owe us anything, but at the same time, I don't think we should be handed garbage time and time again. ?

[AxlReznor]

I don't see why it can't be released during the tour.  It's still possible to do press when you're in another country... do you honestly think that a magazine would turn down the chance to interview Axl just because they had to fly out?  For a radio interview there are phones.  And for TV?  Music videos are there for when a band isn't available to play in person.
Sure, most bands will stay in their own country when they release a record, but since when has Axl Rose taken the most obvious path?
I think a release date will be given at the same time as an official tour announcement on the website.  And I think it'll be late-April/late-May.  And I think they'll do something huge on release day... and you don't have to be in the country to do something huge.

[Bartlet]

How can you fire your manager for not getting the album out by year's end when recording WAS NOT complete? That makes absolutley no sense.

Quite agree. But so far i dont think we have been led astray this year. which is not to say we wont realise we have been, at some future point.

[AxlRose4eva1]

How can you fire your manager for not getting the album out by year's end when recording WAS NOT complete? That makes absolutley no sense.

Quite agree. But so far i dont think we have been led astray this year. which is not to say we wont realise we have been, at some future point.

so cancelling the end of a tour to finish an album, and then touring without the album finished isnt misleading?

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

How can you fire your manager for not getting the album out by year's end when recording WAS NOT complete? That makes absolutley no sense.

Quite agree. But so far i dont think we have been led astray this year. which is not to say we wont realise we have been, at some future point.

so cancelling the end of a tour to finish an album, and then touring without the album finished isnt misleading?

For all we know it could be finished by now.

[phi_kai_phi]

We've been dicked around with too long now to be treated like we are.  Axl's letter was reassuring and apologetic, and originally meant a lot to many fans.

However, with those promises of an album in 2006, and no news about the tenative release date being changed after the 2007 shows were cancelled to complete it with "minor, and I do mean minor finishing touches." 

I saw an old Maxim in my room the other day and flipped through it...  It was a 2003 issue or something like that.  There was  a picture of mummified corpses sitting in a ditch with the caption "A line of Guns N' Roses fans waiting for Axl to release the new album" or something like that.  Not only is Axl a joke... WE, as GNR fans, are a joke to the media.  It's that bad.

The date is 2/18/07.... in 2006 did you think that by now you'd have NO CLUE when the album would be coming out?

Bull. Shit.

EDIT: You can find the article in Maxim, March 2004  Issue #75

[AdZ]

I don't understand why you people get so whiney and pent up about something you have absolutely no control over.

When it's ready, it'll be released. End of.