(Insert number here) weeks left

[younggunner]

At this point I think we are all only going to be happy when we have just one thing.... CD in our hands.

 Although I can be completely off base here, I do not see Axl meeting his March 6th timetable or any date in March for that matter. If he comes back and announces that the album, contracts, and any other "mnor details", etc are completed and turned over to the label with an actual release date for lets say April or even May then of course all will be forgiven. But I have very little hope for that kind of scenario. I used to but not so much anymore.

I have all the faith in Axl, this band, and this album. And when released it will probably one of the best albums of our time. But the problem or pattern I see is that Axl is scared. He cant get over that final hump. Im sure he has had every sincere intention to release this album on many different occasions. But IMO he just cant let go. He cant complete the final stage. Hes got so much pressure and his career is pretty much riding on this album. A lot of it is his fault but despite that, I understand his perspective. I just wish he could just say fuck it lets roll. idk im not there so i dont know but its just my viewpoint

anyways March isnt looking good..bring on mid april/May...hey before you know it the black friday rumors/ideas/strategy will be back for a nice, efficient, max sales release in Nov.....

[chriskon72]

"We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible"


 ?Well the date hasn't been finalized and isn't official...yet (Hoping liking a mf). So March 6 has always been...well up in the air. They would have had to come out and say "we are done the album is being handed in an March 6 is confrirmed release date of the album. That hasn't happened and March 6 is 35 days away not 60 (8 weeks)

"If we are delayed"... - ?I guess it isn't as soon as possible, yet. ?And they haven't decided in regards to a new date.

 ?Axl wrote the fastest they could get it out if it is turned in is 8 weeks lets say 6 weeks tops. ?In my opinion the album hasn't been handed in (could be but I doubt it) I think if it was handed geffen/interscope would not sit quietly on this information, they would tell someone RS, whoever and get the promo monster going.

it's feeling a little October-Novemberish to me. How bout you?

[Bartlet]

At this point I think we are all only going to be happy when we have just one thing.... CD in our hands.

 Although I can be completely off base here, I do not see Axl meeting his March 6th timetable or any date in March for that matter. If he comes back and announces that the album, contracts, and any other "mnor details", etc are completed and turned over to the label with an actual release date for lets say April or even May then of course all will be forgiven. But I have very little hope for that kind of scenario. I used to but not so much anymore.

I have all the faith in Axl, this band, and this album. And when released it will probably one of the best albums of our time. But the problem or pattern I see is that Axl is scared. He cant get over that final hump. Im sure he has had every sincere intention to release this album on many different occasions. But IMO he just cant let go. He cant complete the final stage. Hes got so much pressure and his career is pretty much riding on this album. A lot of it is his fault but despite that, I understand his perspective. I just wish he could just say fuck it lets roll. idk im not there so i dont know but its just my viewpoint

anyways March isnt looking good..bring on mid april/May...hey before you know it the black friday rumors/ideas/strategy will be back for a nice, efficient, max sales release in Nov.....

Unfortunately that makes sense to me.

[Skinflick]

"We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible"


 ?Well the date hasn't been finalized and isn't official...yet (Hoping liking a mf). So March 6 has always been...well up in the air. They would have had to come out and say "we are done the album is being handed in an March 6 is confrirmed release date of the album. That hasn't happened and March 6 is 35 days away not 60 (8 weeks)

"If we are delayed"... - ?I guess it isn't as soon as possible, yet. ?And they haven't decided in regards to a new date.

 ?Axl wrote the fastest they could get it out if it is turned in is 8 weeks lets say 6 weeks tops. ?In my opinion the album hasn't been handed in (could be but I doubt it) I think if it was handed geffen/interscope would not sit quietly on this information, they would tell someone RS, whoever and get the promo monster going.

it's feeling a little October-Novemberish to me. How bout you?

Well shit.....haven't been here in quite a bit.........yeah, if that happens...I am gonna blow someone up.....not cause of the waiting.....just because.....

[russtcb]

"We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible"


  Well the date hasn't been finalized and isn't official...yet (Hoping liking a mf). So March 6 has always been...well up in the air. They would have had to come out and say "we are done the album is being handed in an March 6 is confrirmed release date of the album. That hasn't happened and March 6 is 35 days away not 60 (8 weeks)

"If we are delayed"... -  I guess it isn't as soon as possible, yet.  And they haven't decided in regards to a new date.

  Axl wrote the fastest they could get it out if it is turned in is 8 weeks lets say 6 weeks tops.  In my opinion the album hasn't been handed in (could be but I doubt it) I think if it was handed geffen/interscope would not sit quietly on this information, they would tell someone RS, whoever and get the promo monster going.

it's feeling a little October-Novemberish to me. How bout you?

I agree with you up until the last line. I truly believe we will get the album well before Fall. I'm still hoping things are on track for March. We will know soon due to proper promotion timespans running out.

[chriskon72]

"We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible"


? Well the date hasn't been finalized and isn't official...yet (Hoping liking a mf). So March 6 has always been...well up in the air. They would have had to come out and say "we are done the album is being handed in an March 6 is confrirmed release date of the album. That hasn't happened and March 6 is 35 days away not 60 (8 weeks)

"If we are delayed"... -? I guess it isn't as soon as possible, yet.? And they haven't decided in regards to a new date.

? Axl wrote the fastest they could get it out if it is turned in is 8 weeks lets say 6 weeks tops.? In my opinion the album hasn't been handed in (could be but I doubt it) I think if it was handed geffen/interscope would not sit quietly on this information, they would tell someone RS, whoever and get the promo monster going.

it's feeling a little October-Novemberish to me. How bout you?

I agree with you up until the last line. I truly believe we will get the album well before Fall. I'm still hoping things are on track for March. We will know soon due to proper promotion timespans running out.

I didn't mean for a October-November release, I meant the, not knowing what the fuck is goingon feeling just like back in Oct-Nov of 2006.

Any given tuesday near the end last year - Will it be out next Tuesday?
Now - Will it be out March 6th, if not when?

 ?

[ppbebe]

shortly after. in early spring.

March 6 is merely a tentative date. it is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee.

http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/articles/_a/guns-n-roses-and-the-case-of-the-missing/20061121124409990001

I found this statement on AOL. Not sure how valid it is but...

"David Geffen's record company was the label for 'Democracy' for many unrewarding years, finally washing their hands of it by tossing it to Interscope. "

"But as the weeks have gone by since then, the band's label, Interscope Records, has stayed silent, and Rose has not mentioned the album publicly on the band's extensive US tour." - Mp3.com

"In January 1999 Seagram orchestrated a massive restructuring of its music division, firing 110 Geffen employees, including Mr. Rosenblatt, and folding the unit into the corporation's bigger Interscope Records division. The unfinished album was placed in the hands of Interscope's chairman, Jimmy Iovine." - NY Times

"Jimmy Iovine (head of Interscope) has heard as many as 6 finished tracks off of Chinese Democracy. Interscope would like to get this album out soon? hopefully before the end of the year." - Mark Strigl

"Interscope has taken "Chinese Democracy" off its schedule." - NY Times

"Representatives for both Geffen and Interscope, the two labels most likely to release Chinese Democracy, said they know nothing about a release date for the album or even which label might put it out. " - MTV

---

I don't believe it... the record company execs are just as confused as we are! 

haha but sse the dates. that was before Jimmy Iovine's comment on 09/06 about 6 finished tracks.
cd will most likely come out under interscope, it seems.
thanks sic! very useful date. 

Best of luck to axl!

[bringbackadler]

At this point I think we are all only going to be happy when we have just one thing.... CD in our hands.

 Although I can be completely off base here, I do not see Axl meeting his March 6th timetable or any date in March for that matter. If he comes back and announces that the album, contracts, and any other "mnor details", etc are completed and turned over to the label with an actual release date for lets say April or even May then of course all will be forgiven. But I have very little hope for that kind of scenario. I used to but not so much anymore.

I have all the faith in Axl, this band, and this album. And when released it will probably one of the best albums of our time. But the problem or pattern I see is that Axl is scared. He cant get over that final hump. Im sure he has had every sincere intention to release this album on many different occasions. But IMO he just cant let go. He cant complete the final stage. Hes got so much pressure and his career is pretty much riding on this album. A lot of it is his fault but despite that, I understand his perspective. I just wish he could just say fuck it lets roll. idk im not there so i dont know but its just my viewpoint

anyways March isnt looking good..bring on mid april/May...hey before you know it the black friday rumors/ideas/strategy will be back for a nice, efficient, max sales release in Nov.....

Younggunner - Very well said. I completely agree that it's no longer a matter of more studio time being needed, or management who doesn't know what they're doing, or lawsuits from previous members of the band. IMO, this is soley about Axl second guessing how good this album is again and again. I also think this will be one of the greatest rock albums of all time once it's released, but if Axl doesn't let go sometime soon, we may be having very similar discussions in 2009.? ?

[pilferk]

yeah, not a chance! He was in Vegas with a booked recording studio, now he is in NY with, if you believe the rumours a recording studio booked for a further 2 months.
Jonx

I hadn't heard that particular rumor.

Was the rumor specific as to WHICH studio he was booked in, in NYC?  I have a friend who is a sound engineer in NYC...he might be able to "confirm or deny" with some well placed phone calls.

Also....just a heads up....he had a studio booked leading up to the '06 Euro tour, too.  They were using it for rehersal.  Just something to think about....

[Jonx]

yeah, not a chance! He was in Vegas with a booked recording studio, now he is in NY with, if you believe the rumours a recording studio booked for a further 2 months.
Jonx

I hadn't heard that particular rumor.

Was the rumor specific as to WHICH studio he was booked in, in NYC?  I have a friend who is a sound engineer in NYC...he might be able to "confirm or deny" with some well placed phone calls.

Also....just a heads up....he had a studio booked leading up to the '06 Euro tour, too.  They were using it for rehersal.  Just something to think about....

From mygnr:

I thought everyone might be interested in this little bit of information....take it for what it's worth. I believe it!

Thank you so very much!
I totally appreciate it! People on those unoffical "guns n' roses" web sites are going ballistic for information......the speculation and frustration is seamingly quite endless....I'm included too in that bunch.
Anyway best of luck to you on your blog and anything else.

bye now,
M.....



>From: ................
>To: ...................
>Subject: Re: Question about Axl Rose
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:55:23 -0500
>
>actually, since his split with Merk, it was a touchy subject... All
>I know is that he's staying in nyc for the next two months
>recording (for Chinese Democracy i believe). I highly doubt that
>he will have finished the whole record, mastered and manufactured
>and in stores by his slated release... It was one of those big
>pink elephants in the room that no one wants to talk about? ya
>know? Sorry I couldnt be of more help to you.
>
>Best
>
>
>
>
>On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:30 AM, ............... wrote:
>
>>Hi ...........-
>>You mentioned on your blog that you met and spoke with Axl Rose
>>while eating Mac and Cheese at Cafeteria in Manhattan. Do you
>>recall what he said regarding Guns n' Roses' highly anticipated and
>> very, very over due upcoming album, Chinese Democracy? He has
>>stated a tentative release date of March 6th which is a bit
>>dubious. My question to you really is what if anything did he say
>>regarding the album, it's production schedule or it's release?
>>I really appreciate any information that you can offer me with
>>respect to this. Did he let you hear any of the new material? Did
>>you exchange contact information?
>>That's it really!
>>
>>I'm just a terrific fan of his work,
>>so thank you!
>>
>>regards-
>>
>>................
>>

>>
>

>
>

Could be for rehersal, if this is to be the actualy CD tour then they need to rehearse all the new stuff so that they can play it live, id imagine that will take some time!

Jonx

[pilferk]

Drat!

I wish the guy would have been a bit more specific about WHICH studio, specifically, Axl might have booked (though, given the way he got the info, I doubt Axl was that specific).

Oh well....guess we wait and see.

Somebody tell Eddie Trunk he needs to get Axl on his show!  Maybe invite Baz to stop by again....

[Scabbie]

You know what...if the album is released shortly after March 06 (by shortly I mean a couple of months), then's thats all cool by me, but if we get another 'fall, late fall' then I'm thinking this whole thing is one big fucking joke.

[bringbackadler]

You know what...if the album is released shortly after March 06 (by shortly I mean a couple of months), then's thats all cool by me, but if we get another 'fall, late fall' then I'm thinking this whole thing is one big fucking joke.

Agreed !  Now, that Axl has finally given us a "tentative" release date, going back to saying things like "fall, late fall" or "soon" would be a definite step backwards. I'd bet anything the earliest we see the album now is early summer.

Ya know, I was just re-listening to that Eddie Trunk interview Axl did in May 06 (I believe), and just by his whole tone and several mentions of how it's definitely this year (2006), I can't believe it's 9 monthas later and he's supposedly still in the studio putting the finishing touches on the album. Although, he never said album was done during the interview, he did make it sound as though there were just some very minor things left to wrap up. He sounded very positive and upbeat about the whole thing. Now, here we are in January 2007 and nothing but silence. Maybe "soon" still isn't the word??   

[Freya]

If the album isn't coming out on the tentative release date, it would make no sense to make an announcement saying "We're sorry to announce that Chinese Democracy will not be released on the previously announced tentative release date. At this point we have no final release date due to (insert reason here)".

You know I'm a huge fan of Axl's always have been, but I am not a fan of nonsense and that is all his "tentative release date" statement was.  I don't want to hear any more excuses or delays or bullsh--, just finish whatever needs to be done and get it out.  Bands release albums everyday, it's not the monumental task it's been made out to be.  I don't want any more "press releases" from Axl, I want to hear it from the record company.

What I find frightening is, if Axl is that far removed from reality that he really believed he would have it out in March, then perhaps he really is incapable of handing over the album on his own.  He really needs all the "yes" people around him removed and someone has to take control here.  I don't know if that is even possible. 

[russtcb]

At the moment, I still believe March 6th is happening...until i hear otherwise

I have a similar feeling, slightly modified. I guess my version would go:

"At the moment, I still believe sometime in March is happening...until i hear otherwise"

[bringbackadler]

At the moment, I still believe March 6th is happening...until i hear otherwise

Really, you still believe March 6th ?? Can you burn me a copy of the single that you must have then???   

[russtcb]

"We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible"


? Well the date hasn't been finalized and isn't official...yet (Hoping liking a mf). So March 6 has always been...well up in the air. They would have had to come out and say "we are done the album is being handed in an March 6 is confrirmed release date of the album. That hasn't happened and March 6 is 35 days away not 60 (8 weeks)

"If we are delayed"... -? I guess it isn't as soon as possible, yet.? And they haven't decided in regards to a new date.

? Axl wrote the fastest they could get it out if it is turned in is 8 weeks lets say 6 weeks tops.? In my opinion the album hasn't been handed in (could be but I doubt it) I think if it was handed geffen/interscope would not sit quietly on this information, they would tell someone RS, whoever and get the promo monster going.

it's feeling a little October-Novemberish to me. How bout you?

I agree with you up until the last line. I truly believe we will get the album well before Fall. I'm still hoping things are on track for March. We will know soon due to proper promotion timespans running out.

I didn't mean for a October-November release, I meant the, not knowing what the fuck is goingon feeling just like back in Oct-Nov of 2006.

Any given tuesday near the end last year - Will it be out next Tuesday?
Now - Will it be out March 6th, if not when?

 ?

Ah. Misread on my part. Gotcha now.

[guns_n_motley]

yeah, not a chance! He was in Vegas with a booked recording studio, now he is in NY with, if you believe the rumours a recording studio booked for a further 2 months.
Jonx

I hadn't heard that particular rumor.

Was the rumor specific as to WHICH studio he was booked in, in NYC?? I have a friend who is a sound engineer in NYC...he might be able to "confirm or deny" with some well placed phone calls.

Also....just a heads up....he had a studio booked leading up to the '06 Euro tour, too.? They were using it for rehersal.? Just something to think about....

From mygnr:

I thought everyone might be interested in this little bit of information....take it for what it's worth. I believe it!

Thank you so very much!
I totally appreciate it! People on those unoffical "guns n' roses" web sites are going ballistic for information......the speculation and frustration is seamingly quite endless....I'm included too in that bunch.
Anyway best of luck to you on your blog and anything else.

bye now,
M.....



>From: ................
>To: ...................
>Subject: Re: Question about Axl Rose
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:55:23 -0500
>
>actually, since his split with Merk, it was a touchy subject... All
>I know is that he's staying in nyc for the next two months
>recording (for Chinese Democracy i believe). I highly doubt that
>he will have finished the whole record, mastered and manufactured
>and in stores by his slated release... It was one of those big
>pink elephants in the room that no one wants to talk about? ya
>know? Sorry I couldnt be of more help to you.
>
>Best
>
>
>
>
>On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:30 AM, ............... wrote:
>
>>Hi ...........-
>>You mentioned on your blog that you met and spoke with Axl Rose
>>while eating Mac and Cheese at Cafeteria in Manhattan. Do you
>>recall what he said regarding Guns n' Roses' highly anticipated and
>> very, very over due upcoming album, Chinese Democracy? He has
>>stated a tentative release date of March 6th which is a bit
>>dubious. My question to you really is what if anything did he say
>>regarding the album, it's production schedule or it's release?
>>I really appreciate any information that you can offer me with
>>respect to this. Did he let you hear any of the new material? Did
>>you exchange contact information?
>>That's it really!
>>
>>I'm just a terrific fan of his work,
>>so thank you!
>>
>>regards-
>>
>>................
>>

>>
>

>
>

Could be for rehersal, if this is to be the actualy CD tour then they need to rehearse all the new stuff so that they can play it live, id imagine that will take some time!

Jonx

if bumble says its done(or that he just finished work on it) than I believe its done.

[misterID]

It means his part is done...

[doooodickiebr]

nothing is done in my book till we have a release date