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[ppbebe]

Why the hell would anyone at Interscope want the headache known as GNR?

seeing as how GH has moved well?

I'm still for march six bc axl said he would inform us ASAP if plans were to be changed. I know the date wasn't official but its their goal and it may be out by then and if no changed plans yet then im still for march 6th.

To be precise, he didn't say asa plans change. As soon as they have a new date, we will be informed. also it might be referring to the case where the date is confirmed and then put off.

Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible.

[russtcb]

For the people that were discussing the label yesterday, I received a myspace reply from one of my Universal sources. Though the reply sounds like BS, here it is:








geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 26, 2007 9:00 AM


So.... have you confirmed which label is handling the GNR record? I'm just curious because you mentioned Interscope and up to this point every GNR release worldwide has been handled by Geffen.

I think they're messing with you, dude. Geffen would've had to hand over GNR to Interscope and Interscope would have to deal with the debt. They are owned by Universal, but they are not all the same label.


I just sent her another message saying pretty much the same thing you said. I don't think she's messing with me, I honestly think she's an idiot.

[crayallica]

I think it is fun to check here every day for a firm release date. We will know SOMETHING by March 6.

[russtcb]

I think it is fun to check here every day for a firm release date. We will know SOMETHING by March 6.

I gotta assume so as well. Here's hopin'

[Juanjay]

For the people that were discussing the label yesterday, I received a myspace reply from one of my Universal sources. Though the reply sounds like BS, here it is:








geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 26, 2007 9:00 AM


So.... have you confirmed which label is handling the GNR record? I'm just curious because you mentioned Interscope and up to this point every GNR release worldwide has been handled by Geffen.

I think they're messing with you, dude. Geffen would've had to hand over GNR to Interscope and Interscope would have to deal with the debt. They are owned by Universal, but they are not all the same label.

Wilco was a band that got dropped by their label, which was owned by Warner, then re-signed to another label owned by Warner. Different people head the different labels and they become responsible for their artists. Why the hell would anyone at Interscope want the headache known as GNR?

Interscope/Geffen/A&M are different parts of the same label. Jimmy Iovine is/was in charge of them. They're not really different labels anymore more like different departments of the same company.

[russtcb]

For the people that were discussing the label yesterday, I received a myspace reply from one of my Universal sources. Though the reply sounds like BS, here it is:








geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 26, 2007 9:00 AM


So.... have you confirmed which label is handling the GNR record? I'm just curious because you mentioned Interscope and up to this point every GNR release worldwide has been handled by Geffen.

I think they're messing with you, dude. Geffen would've had to hand over GNR to Interscope and Interscope would have to deal with the debt. They are owned by Universal, but they are not all the same label.

Wilco was a band that got dropped by their label, which was owned by Warner, then re-signed to another label owned by Warner. Different people head the different labels and they become responsible for their artists. Why the hell would anyone at Interscope want the headache known as GNR?

Interscope/Geffen/A&M are different parts of the same label. Jimmy Iovine is/was in charge of them. They're not really different labels anymore more like different departments of the same company.

Right. But that doesn't change the fact that the album will only be issued by one of them. What I'm trying to understand from the contact at Universal is why she's so sure the album is coming out through Interscope since every GNR release up til now has been on Geffen.

[King Axl]

I think it is fun to check here every day for a firm release date. We will know SOMETHING by March 6.

I don't think it's much fun at all. Sometimes, I'm not even on this website for more than 5 seconds a day, because all I do is check the update section for release date news. If there's nothing new, I click off.

[russtcb]

In the ongoing debate w/ the Universal contact about the label, here's the latest:

I have ofcourse sent a follow up email asking what any of that has to do with GNR and if they are releasing CD on Interscope.

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geffen sucks. i used to work for them.

it's better that they are on interscope, because that is the greatest label on earth, talent-wise. plus their staff is great. geffen on the other hand, not so much. geffen was a great label when david geffen ran it. now a douche bag runs it. so gnr is better off with them. a lot of bands switch from interscope to geffen or the other way around, like recently we had the Game go to geffen from interscope. And then beck went from geffen to interscope. good times.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 27, 2007 1:50 PM


I understand that the labels are owned by the same company. What I was asking is if you know for sure it'll be Intescope. I mean, why the change after every release being on Geffen?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Bridget
Date: Jan 26, 2007 7:01 PM


geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

[madagas]

Sounds like Interscope for sure. Interscope is the more well known brand now and definitely has the finances to release the record with the right amount of promotion. U2 is on Interscope and alot of other heavy hitters. This is good news in my opinion. I think it lends credibility to my multi album release theory as well. Thanks Russtcb. I'll go have a peanut butter and banana sandwich now!8)

[ppbebe]

it does. 
Besides, hasn't geffen already released gh to recoup their investment?
enjoy your peanut butter and banana sandwich sandwich.

[misterID]

In the ongoing debate w/ the Universal contact about the label, here's the latest:

I have ofcourse sent a follow up email asking what any of that has to do with GNR and if they are releasing CD on Interscope.

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geffen sucks. i used to work for them.

it's better that they are on interscope, because that is the greatest label on earth, talent-wise. plus their staff is great. geffen on the other hand, not so much. geffen was a great label when david geffen ran it. now a douche bag runs it. so gnr is better off with them. a lot of bands switch from interscope to geffen or the other way around, like recently we had the Game go to geffen from interscope. And then beck went from geffen to interscope. good times.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 27, 2007 1:50 PM


I understand that the labels are owned by the same company. What I was asking is if you know for sure it'll be Intescope. I mean, why the change after every release being on Geffen?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Bridget
Date: Jan 26, 2007 7:01 PM


geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

It would be strange... But it could be those contract negotiations he was talking about. I still don't see Interscope wanting to get involved, or Geffen wanting to lose the royalties of the GNR catalog.

Interscope/Geffen/A&M are different parts of the same label. Jimmy Iovine is/was in charge of them. They're not really different labels anymore more like different departments of the same company.

They are owned by Universal but they ARE different companies. Kind of like how Pixar is owned by Disney now, but they still act as their own company.

[madagas]

They are brands. For example, I work for Marriott International, Inc-our brands are Courtyard, Residence Inn, Ritz Carlton, Fairfield Inn, Marriott Hotels and Resorts, Renaissance, etc. Different animals-all under Marriott International. Each has it's own identity. Just like each label under Universal has it's own identity, but they are still within the same company.

[misterID]

But you have to figure, even with the "black hole" CD has put in Geffen/Universal's bank account, that Geffen still enjoys a nice annual income from GNR albums/songs. Would they really want to hand that over, or let it go to Interscope? Execs from both companies still have to show yearly profits to Universal to keep their labels going.

On the other side, if Axl wanted to go to Interscope you'd have to figure he'd want them to help pay for the tab. Unless he agrees to eat it, just for a better promotinal effort. Like I said, I guess its possible and it could be the contract negotiations he was talking about. Either way, once CD is released its going to be pretty expensive.

[madagas]

I think it shows Jimmy Iovine's confidence in the material.  Also, when Geffen restructured years ago, I am quite sure alot of the costs for this cd were written off. You can also bet your ass that the negotiations Axl is talking about address the costs as well. That is why it would be to his distinct advantage to deliver two albums worth of material-more bargaining power. Geffen will still make a killing off the back catalog so they don't care either way. Just my opinion of course, but I think it is a fairly educated guess.

[russtcb]

I think it shows Jimmy Iovine's confidence in the material.? Also, when Geffen restructured years ago, I am quite sure alot of the costs for this cd were written off. You can also bet your ass that the negotiations Axl is talking about address the costs as well. That is why it would be to his distinct advantage to deliver two albums worth of material-more bargaining power. Geffen will still make a killing off the back catalog so they don't care either way. Just my opinion of course, but I think it is a fairly educated guess.

Here's the latest:


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either they did or jimmy iovine did, he runs all 3 labels.
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 28, 2007 4:26 AM


So GNR chose to go to Interscope? Is that what you mean?
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Bridget
Date: Jan 28, 2007 4:07 AM


geffen sucks. i used to work for them.

it's better that they are on interscope, because that is the greatest label on earth, talent-wise. plus their staff is great. geffen on the other hand, not so much. geffen was a great label when david geffen ran it. now a douche bag runs it. so gnr is better off with them. a lot of bands switch from interscope to geffen or the other way around, like recently we had the Game go to geffen from interscope. And then beck went from geffen to interscope. good times.

[RageNirvanaNIN]

I will never trust anything Axl Rose has to say anymore , messed up way too many times.  Only until I hold the cd in my hand will i then change my ways.

[flicknn]

for more info on jimmy iovine read this article :

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-iovine26nov26,1,2363052.story?track=crosspromo&coll=la-headlines-entnews&ctrack=1&cset=true

[Juanjay]

In the ongoing debate w/ the Universal contact about the label, here's the latest:

I have ofcourse sent a follow up email asking what any of that has to do with GNR and if they are releasing CD on Interscope.

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geffen sucks. i used to work for them.

it's better that they are on interscope, because that is the greatest label on earth, talent-wise. plus their staff is great. geffen on the other hand, not so much. geffen was a great label when david geffen ran it. now a douche bag runs it. so gnr is better off with them. a lot of bands switch from interscope to geffen or the other way around, like recently we had the Game go to geffen from interscope. And then beck went from geffen to interscope. good times.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 27, 2007 1:50 PM


I understand that the labels are owned by the same company. What I was asking is if you know for sure it'll be Intescope. I mean, why the change after every release being on Geffen?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Bridget
Date: Jan 26, 2007 7:01 PM


geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

It would be strange... But it could be those contract negotiations he was talking about. I still don't see Interscope wanting to get involved, or Geffen wanting to lose the royalties of the GNR catalog.

Interscope/Geffen/A&M are different parts of the same label. Jimmy Iovine is/was in charge of them. They're not really different labels anymore more like different departments of the same company.

They are owned by Universal but they ARE different companies. Kind of like how Pixar is owned by Disney now, but they still act as their own company.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/47/47914.html

Interscope Geffen A&M Records shines like a supernova in the musical universe. A division of recording industry titan Universal Music Group (UMG), Interscope Geffen oversees a diverse collection of record labels, including three of UMGs flagship imprints: Interscope, Geffen Records, and A&M Records. Interscope, best known for its rap and R&B artists, is responsible for some of UMG's best-selling albums, including works from top-sellers 50 cent and Eminem. Venerable A&M Records promotes a variety of artists such as Bryan Adams and Sheryl Crow. Geffen Record's focus is shifting from a mix of genres to commercial pop. Interscope Geffen's other labels include Aftermath Records, G-Unit Records, and Shady Records.

[russtcb]

In the ongoing debate w/ the Universal contact about the label, here's the latest:

I have ofcourse sent a follow up email asking what any of that has to do with GNR and if they are releasing CD on Interscope.

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geffen sucks. i used to work for them.

it's better that they are on interscope, because that is the greatest label on earth, talent-wise. plus their staff is great. geffen on the other hand, not so much. geffen was a great label when david geffen ran it. now a douche bag runs it. so gnr is better off with them. a lot of bands switch from interscope to geffen or the other way around, like recently we had the Game go to geffen from interscope. And then beck went from geffen to interscope. good times.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: RussTCB
Date: Jan 27, 2007 1:50 PM


I understand that the labels are owned by the same company. What I was asking is if you know for sure it'll be Intescope. I mean, why the change after every release being on Geffen?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Bridget
Date: Jan 26, 2007 7:01 PM


geffen/interscope/a&m are all the same label. confusing. i know. but it will definitely be interscope.

It would be strange... But it could be those contract negotiations he was talking about. I still don't see Interscope wanting to get involved, or Geffen wanting to lose the royalties of the GNR catalog.

Interscope/Geffen/A&M are different parts of the same label. Jimmy Iovine is/was in charge of them. They're not really different labels anymore more like different departments of the same company.

They are owned by Universal but they ARE different companies. Kind of like how Pixar is owned by Disney now, but they still act as their own company.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/47/47914.html

Interscope Geffen A&M Records shines like a supernova in the musical universe. A division of recording industry titan Universal Music Group (UMG), Interscope Geffen oversees a diverse collection of record labels, including three of UMGs flagship imprints: Interscope, Geffen Records, and A&M Records. Interscope, best known for its rap and R&B artists, is responsible for some of UMG's best-selling albums, including works from top-sellers 50 cent and Eminem. Venerable A&M Records promotes a variety of artists such as Bryan Adams and Sheryl Crow. Geffen Record's focus is shifting from a mix of genres to commercial pop. Interscope Geffen's other labels include Aftermath Records, G-Unit Records, and Shady Records.

My point to all of this is that no one (including my contact at Universal) has given me any good or valid reason why the record would be imprinted through Interscope instead of Geffen.

The reason I'm trying to clarify is because of her (the Universal contact) saying that she spoke to the head of Interscopes Sales & Marketing on Friday morning. At that time he said the band had not turned in anything to the label as of yet.

So, if the record is coming on Geffen, I would tend to discount what a guy from Interscope would know about the album.

Does any of that make sense?? 

[misterID]

This issue kind of makes me want to jump out of a window