Rage Against the Machine out to get Bush

[Bodhi]

I hear a cover of "Money" is in Rage's future.... no i totally get what you are saying booker...but because so many shitty artists have already taken shots at Bush...its like whats the point?  we get it....Bush is done....its like a boxer climbing into the fight after its over and beating on the loser who is already on the mat unconscious......this message they want to spread is going to lack the "power" that it would have had 3 years ago...obviously this was not an important enough issue for them, otherwise they would have splite up their mutli-million selling band for it.....

[freedom78]

I hear a cover of "Money" is in Rage's future.... no i totally get what you are saying booker...but because so many shitty artists have already taken shots at Bush...its like whats the point?  we get it....Bush is done....its like a boxer climbing into the fight after its over and beating on the loser who is already on the mat unconscious......this message they want to spread is going to lack the "power" that it would have had 3 years ago...obviously this was not an important enough issue for them, otherwise they would have splite up their mutli-million selling band for it.....

I don't mind them being political...it's what they do.  But if they really want to convey a political message, it might be better to focus on issues, rather than a President who will be well on his way out the door by the time the get something out there.  Issues last beyond term limits.

[D]

Bush is gonna become a beloved anti hero before long.


Bush has done a shitty job but imagine how fucking hard being the president has to be.


Say he doesn't attack Iraq and they do have weapons and they blow up Somebody or someone Flies a nuclear bomb into NY or something.


Either way the guy was doomed.


Dont need a rock band monday morning quarterback to further pile on.

Bush sucks, he fucked up, lets look forward to 08, nothing can be done now.  Rage are about 4 years late to the party.

[SLCPUNK]

I don't know about all that, but I heard global warming was caused by gay marriage.

[D]

Possible

All that friction heats up the earth's core.

[SLCPUNK]

Possible

All that friction heats up the earth's core.

Yea........

[D]

^

 


I'd love to see all the crazy ass pictures u got on your hard drive

[sandman]

Are people really suggesting that Rage Against The Machine are insincere in their political motivation?? Oddly enough, these people are Bush supporters (or at least Bush defenders).

yes, in this instance.

can anybody explain what they mean by "knock the bush administration out"?

i think most people are taking it for what it is....BS. just a cheesy way of promoting the reunion, getting headlines, and making more $$.

[Booker Floyd]

obviously this was not an important enough issue for them, otherwise they would have splite up their mutli-million selling band for it.....

Theres more to reconciling a bands relationship than sharing a political agenda.  They obviously had to overcome whatever personal differences were there, and unfortunately it took 6 years.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Theres more to reconciling a bands relationship than sharing a political agenda.  They obviously had to overcome whatever personal differences were there, and unfortunately it took 6 years.

Go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gilbertestrada/108499075/

Zack may have been under the radar in terms of mainstream rock, but he's been pretty active in the east & south LA community.  There was one piece in the local news some time ago, about how he and some guys constructed an FM transmitter and broadcast their messages over the so-called 'public' radio spectrum.  The idea was to make people aware that most terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice.  It was funny, and cool. While I am looking forward to the Rage reunion (Bush or no Bush), I hope he continues his wacky side projects, at the local level.

[SLCPUNK]

I hated Bush before it was cool

 

Seriously, why would they want to make political points with which the majority of Americans agree, about a President who is on his way out the door?

 
Bush has committed mass murder on an enormous scale. There is no reason to let up on him, not for one moment........

[Bodhi]

I hated Bush before it was cool

 

Seriously, why would they want to make political points with which the majority of Americans agree, about a President who is on his way out the door?

 
Bush has committed mass murder on an enormous scale. There is no reason to let up on him, not for one moment........

mass murder? a little dramatic arent you?  He waged a war and did a terrible job and alot of people have died...hes not hitler....as much as you want him to be...I wonder what you guys would have been like in the WW2 era where hundreds of thousands of troops were being killed...and we were dropping nuclear bombs......

[Bodhi]

Theres more to reconciling a bands relationship than sharing a political agenda.? They obviously had to overcome whatever personal differences were there, and unfortunately it took 6 years.

Go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gilbertestrada/108499075/

Zack may have been under the radar in terms of mainstream rock, but he's been pretty active in the east & south LA community.? There was one piece in the local news some time ago, about how he and some guys constructed an FM transmitter and broadcast their messages over the so-called 'public' radio spectrum.? The idea was to make people aware that most terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice.? It was funny, and cool. While I am looking forward to the Rage reunion (Bush or no Bush), I hope he continues his wacky side projects, at the local level.

terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice because conservatives are the ones who get the ratings....something i still dont understand...I dont know why talk radio is so one sided....you would think liberals would have a solid base to listen to their programs too but they dont....Air America was a complete catastrophy....the DNC pumped millions into that station but they still went off the air....they just didnt have the listeners....so if Zack De La Rocha did some research he would see that the reason his views are not on terrestrial radio is because they dont get ratings thus they dont get money....its not some government conspiracy....but im sure Zack was able to fool a bunch of 16 year olds into thinking it was....

[SLCPUNK]

mass murder? a little dramatic arent you? 

Over 650,00 dead Iraqis because of Bush's lies. I'd file that under mass murder.

[Bodhi]

mass murder? a little dramatic arent you??

Over 650,00 dead Iraqis because of Bush's lies. I'd file that under mass murder.

prove Bush lied.......im not saying prove the intelligence was wrong..or that the war was completely mismanaged...I want you to prove that Bush LIED...prove he is a liar.....when people say things like this it is obvious that they know nothing about politics  if you disagree with Bush or hate him..thats cool its you're right...but there is no evidence the guy LIED about anything.......you can ASSUME bush lied...but im saying PROVE it.....

[SLCPUNK]

prove Bush lied.......im not saying prove the intelligence was wrong..or that the war was completely mismanaged...I want you to prove that Bush LIED...prove he is a liar.....when people say things like this it is obvious that they know nothing about politics  if you disagree with Bush or hate him..thats cool its you're right...but there is no evidence the guy LIED about anything.......you can ASSUME bush lied...but im saying PROVE it.....

There has been proof for sometime now.

Top CIA officials have come forward to say that Bush was told there was no WMD-that the source was not to be trusted, but Bush chose to ignore that and present that to the world as fact. This came out months ago, where have you been?

I'm sure you are up to date with the Libby trial (that would require you to read.) In case you are not, it is an absolute smoking gun that Bush and his dirtbag VP Cheney not only lied, but went after those who told the truth.

[WhiteRose]

"Rage Against the Machine out to get Bush"

Wow, I would have to say they're about a day late and a dollar short on that one.

I'm rather surprised this band isn't using all of their recent media attention to bring greater awareness to more productive causes.

Cheers,
W.R.
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[Doc Emmett Brown]

Theres more to reconciling a bands relationship than sharing a political agenda.  They obviously had to overcome whatever personal differences were there, and unfortunately it took 6 years.

Go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gilbertestrada/108499075/

Zack may have been under the radar in terms of mainstream rock, but he's been pretty active in the east & south LA community.  There was one piece in the local news some time ago, about how he and some guys constructed an FM transmitter and broadcast their messages over the so-called 'public' radio spectrum.  The idea was to make people aware that most terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice.  It was funny, and cool. While I am looking forward to the Rage reunion (Bush or no Bush), I hope he continues his wacky side projects, at the local level.

terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice because conservatives are the ones who get the ratings....something i still dont understand...I dont know why talk radio is so one sided....you would think liberals would have a solid base to listen to their programs too but they dont....Air America was a complete catastrophy....the DNC pumped millions into that station but they still went off the air....they just didnt have the listeners....so if Zack De La Rocha did some research he would see that the reason his views are not on terrestrial radio is because they dont get ratings thus they dont get money....its not some government conspiracy....but im sure Zack was able to fool a bunch of 16 year olds into thinking it was....

yawn.......

Your mistake was in assuming that political equates to partisan, and you overlooked my use of the word local.

There used to be many radio stations in LA, KNAC (KNAC-ya! as Sebastian Bach would say), Pirate radio, etc.  Those have disappeared over the years, and now you have choice between pop schlock or modern rock.  We can sit here and whine about the death of good music, but one point remains to be said:

Before passage of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, a company could not own more than 40 radio stations in the entire country. With the Act?s sweeping relaxation of ownership limits, the cap on radio ownership was eliminated. As a result, Clear Channel has dominated the industry by growing from 40 radio stations nationally in the mid-90s, to approximately 1225 stations nationally by 2003. The station also dominates the audience share in 100 of 112 major markets. In addition to its radio stations, Clear Channel also owns television station affiliates, billboards, outdoor advertising, and owns or exclusively books the vast majority of concert venues, amphitheaters, and clubs in the country. According to NOW with Bill Moyers, in 2000 Clear Channel purchased the nation?s largest concert and events promoter, and in 2001, the Clear Channel did 70% of national ticket sales.

Most board members are well aware of Clear Channel with regards to the 2002 tour. 

Satellite radio and internet radio have made inroads into terrestrial radio's listenership, and there are plenty of 'alternate' ways of finding good music.  Most people dont know or dont care about how the FCC divides up the radio spectrum, and how electromagnetic waves become a political topic.  Zack's broadcasts were focused on this topic, and making people aware of various FCC rulings.

And incidentally, I read about this in a local rag for ham radio enthusiasts.  While the average Joe likes to use his gadgets without knowing how they work, fortunately there are people in this world who ask 'well, how did you build that FM transmitter?'  Ham radio folks, regardless of whether they are GOP/Democrat/etc, care very much about the FCC's rulings.

[Bodhi]

prove Bush lied.......im not saying prove the intelligence was wrong..or that the war was completely mismanaged...I want you to prove that Bush LIED...prove he is a liar.....when people say things like this it is obvious that they know nothing about politics? if you disagree with Bush or hate him..thats cool its you're right...but there is no evidence the guy LIED about anything.......you can ASSUME bush lied...but im saying PROVE it.....

There has been proof for sometime now.

Top CIA officials have come forward to say that Bush was told there was no WMD-that the source was not to be trusted, but Bush chose to ignore that and present that to the world as fact. This came out months ago, where have you been?

I'm sure you are up to date with the Libby trial (that would require you to read.) In case you are not, it is an absolute smoking gun that Bush and his dirtbag VP Cheney not only lied, but went after those who told the truth.

still waiting for proof....if they have proof he should be impeached........hey if they find it I will be the first one to say impeach him.....a few CIA officials saying one thing is still not EVIDENCE....where is the smoking gun? Listen if it turns out that there is a smoking gun...and we have 100 percent evidence that Bush LIED...ill back his impeachment 100 percent...I have not heard anything of a smoking gun...I mean a real one...the left has claimed they have had smoking guns for the last 6 years...is this one for real this time?

[Gordon Gekko]

mass murder?

American actions in Iraq has made us responsible for the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. It is unfortunate you are unable to face up to that. It is as much a moral disaster for us as it was for the German people. Three million Iraqis are currently refugees, and death among them from starvation and disease is also horrifying. It is sad you cannot see that George Bush has turned Iraq into a giant Death Camp.

...hes not hitler....

I see no difference. Both pursued mass murder in the name of a failed ideology, not in the name of morality and righteousness in battling some evil that could not be avoided. The neo-con philosophy of soft-soap Nazism is as odious as the Maoism of Pol Pot. All seek to impose their will on other people through violence. There is no moral righteousness in anything we have done, only a smoke screen. They are all the same. Fuck all of you bastards.