The "Wasted Years." What are your feelings about them?

[novrain91]

I just wanted to get some other fans' opinions on this.  Does anybody else get a little depressed when you think about how Axl is almost 45 now (pretty old in the rock world) and that he basically was in hibernation during his prime? I really think that Chinese Democracy will be great, but will it be worth being MIA (in the general publics' opinion) for basically the last 14 years?  Not to trying to be negative, just want to hear some honest opinions.

[polluxlm]

I don't want to talk about it.

[Chief]

yeah i try not to think about it and also really hope that they wrote a crapload of songs during this time!!

[EFISH]

I just want CD and I want it in 5 weeks.

That will be all.

[GnFnR87]

if this album is all its cracked up to be i wont complain.

would u rather have around 5 albums in that span that are merley mediocre or have only one or two good songs?


didnt think so.

[GNRfan2008]

if this album is all its cracked up to be i wont complain.

would u rather have around 5 albums in that span that are merley mediocre or have only one or two good songs?


didnt think so.

sure it sucks that hes taken so long and maybe wasted some time, but its obvious hes put alot of effort into this album and wants it to be perfect or as close to perfect as humanly possible.

And if CD ends up being merely mediocre with only a few good songs, then what?

[Loaded NightraiN]

it sucks... especially when back in 99 we'd be like oh it'll be out by late 200... but shit lets not worry about that now... we'll have a HUGE run real soon.... we'll forget about all those years!!

[brock]

i think we lost the best years of Axl Rose and the real Guns n Roses, thats what i think

[doooodickiebr]

i kinda feel ripped off..I chose to follow gnr for life...no matter what...so, i kinda feel like my favorite band left me hanging.

[GnFnR87]

if this album is all its cracked up to be i wont complain.

would u rather have around 5 albums in that span that are merley mediocre or have only one or two good songs?


didnt think so.

sure it sucks that hes taken so long and maybe wasted some time, but its obvious hes put alot of effort into this album and wants it to be perfect or as close to perfect as humanly possible.

And if CD ends up being merely mediocre with only a few good songs, then what?

lets wait till the album comes out. all i have to say is:

hes put alot of effort into this record and i respect that. especially in a time when alot of so called "artists" slap together a few singles surrounded by filler, call it an album, and put it out ever 2-3 years.

[smeagol2124]

Well, since you asked....? I think in the pantheon of Iron Maiden songs, "Wasted Years" is vastly under rated.? While not on par with "Run to the Hills" or even "Running Free", "Wasted Years" is a great song?


(Jesus, I swear we talk about the same fucking topics every second or third month)? ?

[bigbri]

Your thread title explains it. They were wasted years. We should have gotten at least 3 or 4 albums in 14 years, but, we don't even have one.

[Lucky]

you got Live Era, and GH

[novrain91]

The thing that I find confusing about the whole thing is: ?We are all tired of waiting for this album because we put a lot of time into following its creation. ?Imagine how Axl must feel about the whole thing and how much of himself, his life. and his reputation he has riding on this. ?You would think he would just want to get it over with and release it!!!

[GnFnR87]

well sure if ur a true guns fan and u really think about it should piss you off that he has taken so long. but as frustrated as i am, i still have great respect for him, i mean hes obviously not doing it for the money, and he obviously doenst care what people think about him. all he cares about is making the best album possible. and thats what matters.

[Locomotive98]

Well, since you asked....? I think in the pantheon of Iron Maiden songs, "Wasted Years" is vastly under rated.? While not on par with "Run to the Hills" or even "Running Free", "Wasted Years" is a great song?


(Jesus, I swear we talk about the same fucking topics every second or third month)? ?

Lol, same here - definitely the best song for me on 'Somewhere in Time'. Very underrated....

[gunns1]

"But I don?t give a fuck about them (the years)
Cause I ain't crazy "

rhiad

Yeh, he wasted a few years touring and putting out a cd, but whos to say, during those years, he might have wrote some of the best songs we are likely to heaR? "I know thats a big claim, but this is chinese democracy after all"

Anyways, I dont care if he only releases this cd and doesn't tour for a year, as long as we have Cd in MARCH (LATEST APRIL) then ILL BE FKN Happy.

Think of it this way, Axl can keep on waiting about putting Chinese Democracy off from being released, but can the rest of the band mates (7 in total) wait as long as him?

I highly doubt it.

[smishkey]

I think it's completely subjective. ?"Wasted Years" ?according to whom? ?IMHO, ?it seems that in the aftermath of Slash and Duff leaving, Axl was drifting a bit, thrown for a loop, not really sure what he really wanted out of all of this, or if he even wanted to do it all anymore. ?And by most accounts,(again we don't really know) he hasn't been in the studio 24/7 for years on end. ?I believe his "hibernation",if you will, was self-imposed on his part, he was tired of the trappings of fame.
 
 ?Personally, now that I'm a couple months away from turning 30, I no longer see 45 as old. ?Also, I'm glad that Axl never became one of those guys who will show up anywhere, anytime for press/attention. ?I'm also glad, he hasn't spent his time shitting out crappy album after crappy album just to say "look how productive I am!", if you know what I mean. ?Like when Contrabandcame out, VR were all "We recorded this in 3 weeks blah blah". ?I listened to it and thought maybe they should've spent a little more time trying to make it good instead.
 ?So if he's happy, more power to him, it's all that matters in the end. ?There's more to life than having some shitheads at Rolling Stone think you're relevant.

[MATT-A-REAL-FAN]

 Wow,I haven't been on here in a long fuckin' time. ?
 
 You're talkin' about "14 years wasted",right?

 ?Well,it's hard to say those years were "wasted" when Axl spent most of those years:
 
 ?
 ?A) Recovering from the break-up with Seymour.

 ?B) Dealing with lawsuits out the ass.

 ?C) Watching as band members walked out the door.

 ?D) More fuckin' lawsuits.

 ?E) Trying to re-envision some semblance of a band and crew together/finding the right mix.

 ?F) Overcoming practically insurmountable pressure/hype.

 ?G) Dealing with personal issues regarding life and health (shit that's really no one's fuckin' business).

 ?H) Living up to satisfaction for himself regarding what should be deemed a "Guns N' Roses" album.

 ?H) FUCKIN' LAWSUITS!!!


 What's done is done. Ya can't whine about what could've or should've happened.

 ? Everything happens for a reason. ?We can't wonder all day long,'cause nothing can be changed anyway.
As far as I'm concerned,he's had a lot of shit to go through and deal with.
"Yeah,he's but fuckin' rich!" Blah,blah,blah! He's still a human being. Shit affects him just as much as it does you and I.

 ?I plan on being a multi-millionaire but,I know I'll still have problems. I might have a lot of zeros in my account,but I'll still bleed red and love to laugh and get sad and still shit like a bear.
 
 Money doesn't make you happy,it makes you comfortable. ?Does he have to worry about if he'll eat today? No. Does he have to worry about being laughed at on global fuckin' level? Yes.

 ? "Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you can judge him."

 ?Granted,CD could've/should've been released by now,but,HEY!...guess what?!?..it ain't. ?As far as I'm concerned,the last 14 years of MY life aren't wasted. I've been living!!
 If I didn't do shit from 1993 until now,all the while waiting for this new album,then yes,THAT'D be fuckin' wasted. If You DIDN'T do that,than nothing has been wasted. Not on our side.

 And not on Axl's side. 'Cause he's been living.

 ? ? GN'R FOREVER!!

 ? ? ? ? ? MATT

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Wow,I haven't been on here in a long fuckin' time. 
 
 You're talkin' about "14 years wasted",right?

  Well,it's hard to say those years were "wasted" when Axl spent most of those years:
 
 
  A) Recovering from the break-up with Seymour.

  B) Dealing with lawsuits out the ass.

  C) Watching as band members walked out the door.

  D) More fuckin' lawsuits.

  E) Trying to re-envision some semblance of a band and crew together/finding the right mix.

  F) Overcoming practically insurmountable pressure/hype.

  G) Dealing with personal issues regarding life and health (shit that's really no one's fuckin' business).

  H) Living up to satisfaction for himself regarding what should be deemed a "Guns N' Roses" album.

  H) FUCKIN' LAWSUITS!!!


 What's done is done. Ya can't whine about what could've or should've happened.

   Everything happens for a reason.  We can't wonder all day long,'cause nothing can be changed anyway.
As far as I'm concerned,he's had a lot of shit to go through and deal with.
"Yeah,he's but fuckin' rich!" Blah,blah,blah! He's still a human being. Shit affects him just as much as it does you and I.

  I plan on being a multi-millionaire but,I know I'll still have problems. I might have a lot of zeros in my account,but I'll still bleed red and love to laugh and get sad and still shit like a bear.
 
 Money doesn't make you happy,it makes you comfortable.  Does he have to worry about if he'll eat today? No. Does he have to worry about being laughed at on global fuckin' level? Yes.

   "Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you can judge him."

  Granted,CD could've/should've been released by now,but,HEY!...guess what?!?..it ain't.  As far as I'm concerned,the last 14 years of MY life aren't wasted. I've been living!!
 If I didn't do shit from 1993 until now,all the while waiting for this new album,then yes,THAT'D be fuckin' wasted. If You DIDN'T do that,than nothing has been wasted. Not on our side.

 And not on Axl's side. 'Cause he's been living.

     GN'R FOREVER!!

           MATT

That's the best post I've read in a long time.