The "don?t say anything" contract

[RnT]

lots of people that worked or heard the album always said that they can?t say anything about it because of the "contract"... do you think after CD is released, this people could finally say what were in their minds that time?? and do ytou think the "ugly" side of this could work for a "good publicity" for the album sells ??

[Soori]

FRUSTRATION IS THE WORD!

[RageNirvanaNIN]

lots of people that worked or heard the album always said that they can?t say anything about it because of the "contract"... do you think after CD is released, this people could finally say what were in their minds that time?? and do ytou think the "ugly" side of this could work for a "good publicity" for the album sells ??

Hmmmmm that is pretty true but this "contract" is it actually a real document or more so just a verbal/moral agreement. If its verbal they could talk now if they want , I've seen Zakk Wylde talking about "jamming" with Axl during a couple months of 95 and said some nasty stuff bout him. Never heard anyone else talk about it , also makes me wonder how long these songs have been around? Because I remember Slash and Duff saying that they were doing new songs with guns and they were just mind blowing really epic and past what UYI was wonder how long the ideas have been kicking. But I think that once it is released people who are not on it will generate a decent buzz for the album , talking about the goods , the bads and the ugly.

[EFISH]

lots of people that worked or heard the album always said that they can?t say anything about it because of the "contract"... do you think after CD is released, this people could finally say what were in their minds that time?? and do ytou think the "ugly" side of this could work for a "good publicity" for the album sells ??

No way man. Those gag orders dont just stop when the CD is released....if they say something, Axl will jump down there throats.

[madagas]

They are called confidentiality agreements, and I am sure they are part of the overall contract that all the band members and collaborators sign before they begin work on the project.

[jarmo]

Usually it?s not part of the job to talk about what you?re working on....

It goes in most jobs. It?s usually not appreciated if you talk about current projects with outsiders. You could be a doctor, a programmer, an engineer or a record producer...

If you?re a programmer and start telling everybody what you?re currenty working on, you?d be without a job pretty soon and would probably find it hard to get a new job once everybody knew you love to talk....

You don?t need contracts, it?s common sense.



/jarmo

[Wando]

Usually it?s not part of the job to talk about what you?re working on....

It goes in most jobs. It?s usually not appreciated if you talk about current projects with outsiders. You could be a doctor, a programmer, an engineer or a record producer...

Good point! But many of the ones we're talking about are people interviewed by pop-magazines (atleast) yearly, also considering the circumstances I would guess they have signed contracts..

But as usually, only Axl knows :]

[MotherGooseLuvR]

Usually it?s not part of the job to talk about what you?re working on....

It goes in most jobs. It?s usually not appreciated if you talk about current projects with outsiders. You could be a doctor, a programmer, an engineer or a record producer...

But I think Axl takes it to a whole other level.  VR's making another record right now, and you can find video blogs and updates about it.  In interviews they talk about their producers, the record's style and what they hope to accomplish.  That kind of stuff means a lot to their fans.  I wish Axl could understand that better.

(I'm not really one of them, for the record.  I like those guys (except Scott), and I'll always follow their careers, but Contraband doesn't exactly fill me with hope for Libertad)

[RageNirvanaNIN]

Usually it?s not part of the job to talk about what you?re working on....

It goes in most jobs. It?s usually not appreciated if you talk about current projects with outsiders. You could be a doctor, a programmer, an engineer or a record producer...

But I think Axl takes it to a whole other level.? VR's making another record right now, and you can find video blogs and updates about it.? In interviews they talk about their producers, the record's style and what they hope to accomplish.? That kind of stuff means a lot to their fans.? I wish Axl could understand that better.

(I'm not really one of them, for the record.? I like those guys (except Scott), and I'll always follow their careers, but Contraband doesn't exactly fill me with hope for Libertad)

Exactly what I was getting at. On the latest one there is a video of them doin some rough mixing and jamming on a new song , you see scott's lyrics hand written , see slash doin some takes , and they have a nice little chemistry as a band. It means alot fans to do a a little bit of talking. Axl has kept this under lock for a long while....

[GNRreunioneventually]

you'd think that somthing would have leaked from them like they could have told some random person just to get word out or something like that. I dont know.........but thats what i'd do

CHINESE DEMOCRACY


 

[jarmo]

But I think Axl takes it to a whole other level.

What else do you expect from him?

This project isn?t your ordinary "let?s put a hit song on the album with a bunch of fillers to get the money from the fans" project....

  VR's making another record right now, and you can find video blogs and updates about it. 

Different band, different situation.




/jarmo

[Jackamo!]

^ Ouch. Jarmo disses Velvet Revolver.

[bringbackadler]

^ Ouch. Jarmo disses Velvet Revolver.

I wouldn't consider him saying different band , different stuation as him dissing the band. They ARE a different band in a much DIFFERENT situation.   

[Natasha23]

I think it also serves as protection for the band members themselves. ?If they legally cannot talk about Axl (personally or professionally) the new CD, etc, it automatically stops a lot of the questions reporters and such would pressure them into answering. ?I think all of that can feed into resentment when you're part of a band and all a reporter wants to do is ask you about someone else. ?It seems like it would be more freeing to them. ?I doubt they want to answer questions about Axl even if they were allowed to do so. ? ?

[Lucky]

Usually it?s not part of the job to talk about what you?re working on....

It goes in most jobs. It?s usually not appreciated if you talk about current projects with outsiders. You could be a doctor, a programmer, an engineer or a record producer...

If you?re a programmer and start telling everybody what you?re currenty working on, you?d be without a job pretty soon and would probably find it hard to get a new job once everybody knew you love to talk....

You don?t need contracts, it?s common sense.



/jarmo

this is music.
I dont remember programmers having fans, or being respected about their art.
and in the end, they still talk about their projects, share interesting facts, their discoveries, etc, etc.

Music is art, people are usually excited when talking about their projects. I personally cant wait to share the details,
and excitement when I'm drawing a new concept, or whatever.

Gagging orders for "delicate issues"... ok, I can live with that, I dont care about their dirty underwear. but I'd like to get opinions,
views, facts,etc etc, from all the artists involved. the little details, fun anecdotes, whatever brings "warmth" and a human face to the band,
and not some corporate product.


the whole "gag" thing in GNR camp might be just an urban myth in the end.

[EFISH]

the whole "gag" thing in GNR camp might be just an urban myth in the end.

I wouldn't be so sure. 

[Axlfreek]

you'd think that somthing would have leaked from them like they could have told some random person just to get word out or something like that. I dont know.........but thats what i'd do

CHINESE DEMOCRACY


 

Now we know you are not to be trusted.

[1badapple]

Usually it?s not part of the job to talk about what you?re working on....

It goes in most jobs. It?s usually not appreciated if you talk about current projects with outsiders. You could be a doctor, a programmer, an engineer or a record producer...

If you?re a programmer and start telling everybody what you?re currenty working on, you?d be without a job pretty soon and would probably find it hard to get a new job once everybody knew you love to talk....

You don?t need contracts, it?s common sense.



/jarmo

Very true. If i ran my mouth about things at my job to "outsiders", I'd be unemployed real quick.

Mr. Fortus told me the confidentiality agreement stuff is B/S in an email quite some time ago.

[CheapJon]

Mr. Fortus told me the confidentiality agreement stuff is B/S in an email quite some time ago.

of course he did, he have signed it himself,






it was a joke man, a joke

[GNRreunioneventually]

you'd think that somthing would have leaked from them like they could have told some random person just to get word out or something like that. I dont know.........but thats what i'd do

CHINESE DEMOCRACY


 

Now we know you are not to be trusted.

naa i can be trusted but when its somthing as big as CHINESE DEMOCRACY i would blab till i died (or killed by Axl ) wouldn't you want to know? wouldn't you do the same? what would you do? its complicated i know but if that letter we got not to long ago is true about the track listings and about the songs then i think some one already blabbed 'cause he said he wouldn't say who he was untill after the release.

unless it is bull shit then i dont know.