Worcester, MA 11-8-06 request

[afbeliveau09]

mooch and uzi whats going on. lets see if we cant get this show into everyones hands for our viewing pleasure. i was there front row center with mooch and uzi. a few days after the show i searched ebay for any worcester vid's or audio. i bid on and won a video from that night. a few days later i got an email from ebay saying that my auction has been cancelled and my money would be returned. no reason was given from ebay as to why i lost the bid. I have no proof of this auction, so u just have to believe me but for a day or two i had this video. the show was real good and i need to see it again so lets get this video back!

[Mooch]

mooch and uzi whats going on. lets see if we cant get this show into everyones hands for our viewing pleasure. i was there front row center with mooch and uzi. a few days after the show i searched ebay for any worcester vid's or audio. i bid on and won a video from that night. a few days later i got an email from ebay saying that my auction has been cancelled and my money would be returned. no reason was given from ebay as to why i lost the bid. I have no proof of this auction, so u just have to believe me but for a day or two i had this video. the show was real good and i need to see it again so lets get this video back!

Hey whats up buddy   That sucks though about the ebay thing.  We almost had it

[Bandita]

It happened because John M. bought the masters.  That's why you didn't get your copy from Ebay.

Good luck trying to get it from him now.

[Limulus]

@afbeliveau09:
if that eBay auction has been for real and if you have bid on that eBay auction then you CAN prove it by sending/uploading a "real" not faked screenshot from the eBay confirmation email you always get after bidding on an item. in this email there also is the description of the item, at least from the title of the item. if you can not do that or if you are not willing to do that you simply have no proof for anything about that worcester ebay auction. further than that you might be called a liar too.

@Bandita:
you got a proof for your last post or are you only guessing and probably spread wrong information?

[Bandita]

If I am wrong why isn't the boot out for trade or even sale?

Actually I am going by what I read here at the time when it happened.  Let me search a bit and I will find and post the info as I read it when it happened. 


It's not my style to post bogus info, Limulus.  I am sure there are plenty of people here that aren't as new to the board who read the same thing I did about this boot dissapearing into John M.'s vault.

[Bandita]

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=42170.msg807344#msg807344

Limulus, here is the thread where it was discussed what happened to this show, including how it was taken off Ebay when the masters were bought.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Yeah I was at this show. Front row. I was the person who lead the I.R.S chant that got Axl and the boys to play it. I also one a copy of it on EBay then a day or so later, they sent me an email saying that the person took it off and it wasnt for sale. It's  a shame people are like that, I would really like this show. It was a great show and Axl sounded amazing even without his in-ears.

[Limulus]

- i cant find the info how exactly it was taken off eBay in that 300+ pages thread. and only cause a show isnt available doesnt mean it is even taped. chech the scandinavian06 shows for example! or prague show where where? not every show is making it on bootleg.
- is there any eBay bidder who could at least send the eBay confirming bidding email about that show??
though even that wouldnt prove much as everyone could set up an ebay auction for selling shows they dont have. and where exactly is any proof about the masters being sold? sorry, its just ugly guessing in my eyes (yet).

[Bandita]

I linked you to the exact page where it was discussed and two people have posted here saying that they won a copy on Ebay and then were informed it was no longer for sale. 

If he didn't buy the master copy, tell me, where is it?

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=42170.msg807279#msg807279

Meh. Vegas DVD needs to be liberated to be honest.

smells like John M was knee deep in the negotiations.

yup. I've always been told he has it amongst other things (cd demo's) and told to not buy into his denials about it.

He apparently buried the Worcester 2006 DVD. Bought the masters and buried it.

Tell me more about the Worcester DVD, I was there.

I wish I had it. It was being sold on ebay, but the masters were bought. Now the DVD is no longer around.

I was there front row and would love it also.  It has to be out there somewhere right?

I was right-center, in front of Finck's pedal, where were you at the bar? Anyway, yeah I'd love to find it somewhere. What a great show.

[Limulus]

those quotes i have read...they dont prove ANYTHING. read my previous post please. as long as there aint any eBay bidding confirming emails (at least) its only sounding made up. there just has been another "bidder" so the email could be put up here, huh? even that would only prove that someone tried to sell a show we dont have even any proofs for its existance. and then bringing up the rumour that the John M dude bought masters....well, that proof i would like to see!!! its just sounding made up to harm him to get rid of some anger or smth.

[Bandita]

No, you're right, it isn't stone cold proof.? I just don't appreciate people saying I am trying to spread disinformation.? I would like to see the boot released as much as anyone else on here.

Do you really expect that someone saved an e-mail from November (4 months old) about a botched Ebay sale though?? You are obviously more cynical than I am in that department, I tend to believe the 3 people who have stated they bought one and had their money returned since it was said months apart by people that don't seem to know each other.

Does anyone remember though, who was selling the show?? I would think that by the area the show was in that it could have been filmed by the NYC Bitch Commitee since they did the other shows in the north east.

[MJ23]

I have all emails stored from August 2005 when I changed the provider. So I don't think that it was cynical.
And I won't call anyone a liar but I don't think that it is true until I see some prove. Maybe it was just somebody showing off.

It is easy to blame someone (JohnM).
But as long as there is no real evidence, we should stick to what we do know.
And that is: no boot available (at the moment!)

I think we can live without a boot.

[Limulus]

when there are at least 3 people saying here they have bought that boot.....chances are high someone of them has saved that eBay-email. actually i have still all my (non-spammed) emails from many years ago...no big in filesize. i know a lot of friends back upping them aswell. and 4 months is not such a long time in this case, my thoughts at least. well, we could contact those people who are still members on this board for asking for those eBay emails, huh? its very easy to put up some rumours and bad-mouthing people for whatever reasons.....but at least this eBay "selling" could be proved some easy aswell to show that at least that eBay auction has been for real 

[Bandita]

Also if they paid by PayPal even if they no longer had the email it would be on the transaction log forever on their acct.  That would even show the link to the Ebay auction and when it was, who was the seller, etc.  Just go into transaction history.  A screen shot of that would be helpful, just be sure to block out personal info.

[Cjc1706]

if they paid by paypal, then just look in the transaction history, it will display the auction title, so we can put all this childish arguing to rest ...

CJ

[afbeliveau09]

for those who dont believe me here is one screen shot from my paypal acct.

[afbeliveau09]

here is the second screen shot, the rest of the paypal shot from my previous post. thanks to cj. good call. lets put the arguement to rest

[Mooch]

Theres some nice solid PROOF  that it does exist,   Now we just have to work on getting it back out to the true fans.

[Limulus]

thanks for those screenshots!!
this appears to be the proof somebody tried to sell an item called "Guns Roses Worcester 2006 dvd" through eBay in november 2006 but it got cancelled.

[Bandita]

Who was the seller?  Someone should e-mail him and ask what happened.