chinese democracy influences

[mrlee]

I was listening to absoluton by muse and was thinking they have sorta a grand yet sorta electronic sound.  songs like madagascar and twat def. sorta have that same vibe.

please no, never say muse are an influence on gnr, shitty annoying whiney band on radio 1...never.

[DeN]

their last LP just kicks ass.
very Queenish on some tracks.
so why not.

[KaptainKuntra]

Theres not many bands who can sell out Wembley Stadium (not arena) in 45 minutes these days...

[quarky]

I like Muse. Not sure if Axl would have even heard of them, but I think they are pretty good. A HELL of a lot better than that SOAD tat.? Can't believe anyone can actually like that rubbish. I would rather listen to someone screaming in an empty room with my head in a bucket of icy water...

Since CD has taken so long to record, I think Axl's influences must have changed dramatically over that period. There would be the staples (Zeppelin, Stones), but I also think that some of the other bands mentioned TOOL, NIN must have had an influence to a greater or lesser degree at times (hopefully more Aenima than 10,000 days). Maybe even Smashing Pumpkins (after all both G'n'R and SP's like to really mix it up). There must be bands in the past two or three years that have influenced Axl to some degree as well, although considering the dross that passes for music these days I would hate to think which ones?

As for Nirvana, why not? There could be concious or sub-consious influence, but they have had a huge effect on the industry and are still selling and influencing other bands to a great or lesser degree, so you never know.

[2112]

If Chinese Democracy sounds too much of the nine inch nails style, I would be very dissapointed.
There will be 50 layers of synthharmonies and shit yes, but that doesnt make it good etc

[daviebuckethead]

i dont really think it will sond like anyone, it will sound like GnR, but updated. a whole load of rock bands use samples and sume drum loops et etc, its just what happens these days

[DeN]

I like Muse. Not sure if Axl would have even heard of them, but I think they are pretty good. A HELL of a lot better than that SOAD tat.  Can't believe anyone can actually like that rubbish.

Axl himself loves them. they're the best metal band these days in my opinion.
great melodies with powerful moments. great singers, too.

chop suey, forest, atwa, for exemple, are just amazing songs.

[LunsJail]

Here's one for everybody :

How influential do you think the previous line-up is on the new, if any ?

Maybe some Slash in the guitar solos.  Beyond that I don't really hear much in the leaks at least.

[PJ]

electronic stuff like ambients in the background, drum beats and effects are not always industrial..
industrial use them.. but they have another sound another patterns...
besides oh my god and silkworms i see no industrial influence in the other leaks at all

[mrlee]

I like Muse. Not sure if Axl would have even heard of them, but I think they are pretty good. A HELL of a lot better than that SOAD tat.  Can't believe anyone can actually like that rubbish.

Axl himself loves them. they're the best metal band these days in my opinion.
great melodies with powerful moments. great singers, too.

chop suey, forest, atwa, for exemple, are just amazing songs.

you on about or SOAD...


or are you actually classing muse as a metal band lol

[Bruno Poeys]

Theres not many bands who can sell out Wembley Stadium (not arena) in 45 minutes these days...

what band? lol

[DeN]

I like Muse. Not sure if Axl would have even heard of them, but I think they are pretty good. A HELL of a lot better than that SOAD tat.  Can't believe anyone can actually like that rubbish.

Axl himself loves them. they're the best metal band these days in my opinion.
great melodies with powerful moments. great singers, too.

chop suey, forest, atwa, for exemple, are just amazing songs.

you on about or SOAD...


or are you actually classing muse as a metal band lol

we talked about system of a down here. but Muse is sometimes more "metal" than a lot of "real" metal bands.
listen to them live, it's a power trio and it really kicks ass.

[The Legend]

Kevin Federline will be a heavy influence on CD.

[Gordi]

Kevin Federline will be a heavy influence on CD.

That made me fall off my chair laughing  brilliant!

Back on topic though, I remember Axl mentioning something about 'hip-hop beats' on the new album he said that rock music can have hip-hop beats 'like radiohead' I think was his words...

[HungerForChaos]

I think Chinesse Democracy (2001 version)  sounds a bit Grunge.  maybe That's why people Thought its Nirvana Influences.

Not all of it. The Blues/Madagascar was not grunge.

[littlefallsmets]

Axl's primary musical influences have always seemed to be Zepplin and Queen and... trying to find a middle ground between those two styles of rock and roll while... also taking that fusion and making it harder and louder.

From the stuff I've heard in concert and in the well-known bootleg demos, it seems like he's still going for that fusion... except that this newer stuff interprets the "harder and louder" part of the equation through the lens of post-grunge and a certain progressive "bigness"... as opposed to the lens of post-punk in Appetite approach or reaction-to-the-death-of-hair-rock Pink-Floyd-y-wall-of-sound approach of the Illusion albums.

But it's still that Zep-Queen quality, just with... flourishes of what "harder and louder" means in any particular cultural timeframe. My other tastes in rock tend to lean toward a King Crimson-y crunchy-bigness so... the current trend is right up my alley.

[Six Strings]

Are you crazy?

CD will have the influence of Axl's lyrics just like UYI. This is GN'R. There's no influence...

[kaasupoltin]

Are you crazy?

CD will have the influence of Axl's lyrics just like UYI. This is GN'R. There's no influence...

There is and there was during UYI-time too..

[russtcb]

Are you crazy?

CD will have the influence of Axl's lyrics just like UYI. This is GN'R. There's no influence...

There is and there was during UYI-time too..

Other then maybe the Rolling Stones influence on Izzy's writing specifically, I can't imagine what influences you might be talking about.

As for CD, I think tracks like Better prove that it's going to be very original and innovative on it's own.

[The Legend]

Are you crazy?

CD will have the influence of Axl's lyrics just like UYI. This is GN'R. There's no influence...

There is and there was during UYI-time too..

Other then maybe the Rolling Stones influence on Izzy's writing specifically, I can't imagine what influences you might be talking about.

As for CD, I think tracks like Better prove that it's going to be very original and innovative on it's own.

Yeah, but you're already getting the dumbasses out crying that Better sounds emo.

What in the fuck sounds emo about Better? I haven't heard anything ever like Better...