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« on: January 16, 2007, 07:59:03 AM »

i was just listening to somewhat damaged by nine inch nails, i really think this will be the type of song we get on the hard rockers (if any) on chinese democracy, just input some badass solos and axls voice.

anyone agree?
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 08:03:23 AM »

maybe yes but first have to listen to more NIN music, I don't like at all...

I hope CD don't have too much NIN influences...    ...just my oppinion...  smoking
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 08:07:18 AM »

same here, never been a fan of nin....
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 08:18:42 AM »

I think NIN was a strong influence on the direction Guns' was going in the 1999-2002 timeframe. I personally do not think that Chinese Democracy will have a very Industrial sound though. I think these songs have been tweeked quite a bit since that time and likely dropped alot of that feel. I think that this album will have a very distinct sound, likely one that has never been heard. It will be a " mind blowing epic"  I could be wrong. Just my opinion.  ok
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 08:24:34 AM »

CD influences ?

Led Zeppelin, NIN, Beck, SOAD, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Nirvana, Queen, and some others.

but don't tell anyone.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 08:45:38 AM »

Yeah, I believe Axl likes industrial/electronic music but he's an old-school guy, he won't forget those bands that got him in rock music. Look at the covers they did this tour.. Rolling Stones, Beatles, etc. I am expecting CD to be a very "rock" album, the only thing I think it won't contain is that bluesy/pentatonic based riffs that Slash uses, that's good for me because I'm tired of this.. sorry VR..  Sad


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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 08:49:33 AM »

CD influences ?

Led Zeppelin, NIN, Beck, SOAD, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Nirvana, Queen, and some others.

but don't tell anyone.
What!!?!? Are you crazy system of a down. i love system but cd will not be influenced by soad nirvana or radiohead. more led zep, and queen as he said. some stones and others but not rh nirvana or soad.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 08:56:55 AM »

I am sure Radiohead have been name checked by Axl in a previous interview a few years back - he definitely praised or commented on their album releases around that time (late 90's early 2000 I think..)  - anyway I am sure someone on here will have a link to it and back me up  Cool
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 08:59:50 AM »

Definitely not Nirvana and not SOAD haha are you crazy, what from the new songs reminds you any bit of these two bands. Radio head i really dont think I hear either. If Axl was influenced by every band he's ever praised then you have to put Lou Vega and Mambo Number 5 up there as an influence.  Axl praises a lot of bands that doesnt mean he incorporates elements of their music into his.  I think Axl keeps the music he creates and the music he listens to in separate chambers of his mind truthfully.  I hear more Linken Park than these three bands in the songs we have heard. You can always say the beatles because every band is either influenced by the Beatles or a band influenced by the Beatles. The bands I hear so far are

Queen, Rolling Stones, NIN (no way you can say Better doesnt sound NIN influenced), Judas Priest, Sabbath, Elton John, and I heat some pop influences in the beats and in some of the melodies.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 09:09:11 AM »

yea hearing better, it defo had NIN influence. You can tell theres a gnr sound still in it, which im happy hasnt lost with the change in lineup.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 09:15:34 AM »

CD influences ?

Led Zeppelin, NIN, Beck, SOAD, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Nirvana, Queen, and some others.

but don't tell anyone.

No Nirvana what so ever. no
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 09:21:03 AM »

what would nirvana add to gnr sound, c'mon...

axl is not influenced by talentless bands.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 09:22:45 AM »

what would nirvana add to gnr sound, c'mon...

axl is not influenced by talentless bands.

agreed, im sure axls hate for kurt would put him off using them as an influence.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 09:25:56 AM »

lets keep it as guns n roses would do it! dont change nuffin!
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2007, 09:26:43 AM »

Axl also stated at the VMA's that he liked The Killers and Christina Aguleira (however its spelled) . That doesn't mean that this album was influenced by them though. My point is, just b-cos Axl has said good things about certain bands and artists does not mean they inspired Chinese Democracy.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2007, 09:38:36 AM »

Axl also stated at the VMA's that he liked The Killers and Christina Aguleira (however its spelled) . That doesn't mean that this album was influenced by them though. My point is, just b-cos Axl has said good things about certain bands and artists does not mean they inspired Chinese Democracy.

hmm, lets look at the band members then.

obviously robin brings the nin influence, im gonna guess ron brings a van halen influence with all his super guitaring, richard...im not aware of what he previously did, im gonna say hes the source of the rock. Axl obviously brings his lyrics and piano driven melodies, then you have tommy, his punk influence, then all the freaky ass keyboard guys.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2007, 09:43:33 AM »

what would nirvana add to gnr sound, c'mon...

axl is not influenced by talentless bands.

then why did he look like a wigger at the VMA2002?

not that I give a fuck how he looks like, but at least admit the obvious.
he is influenced. it's not like he lives in a box.

it's just a matter of time when we'll find out what kind of influences ha incorporated into CD.

and not all influences are bad. sometimes it gives you a chance to learn on other peoples mistakes.
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2007, 09:46:11 AM »

what would nirvana add to gnr sound, c'mon...

axl is not influenced by talentless bands.

then why did he look like a wigger at the VMA2002?

not that I give a fuck how he looks like, but at least admit the obvious.
he is influenced. it's not like he lives in a box.

it's just a matter of time when we'll find out what kind of influences ha incorporated into CD.

and not all influences are bad. sometimes it gives you a chance to learn on other peoples mistakes.


I think Axl was listening to alot of Eminem around that time.
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2007, 09:47:18 AM »

Remember what Axl said last year "some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen." ?yes
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2007, 09:48:05 AM »

what would nirvana add to gnr sound, c'mon...

axl is not influenced by talentless bands.

then why did he look like a wigger at the VMA2002?

not that I give a fuck how he looks like, but at least admit the obvious.
he is influenced. it's not like he lives in a box.

it's just a matter of time when we'll find out what kind of influences ha incorporated into CD.

and not all influences are bad. sometimes it gives you a chance to learn on other peoples mistakes.


I think Axl was listening to alot of Eminem around that time.

is that why eminem ripped axl lol?
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