The Blues

[nesquick]

That song is an embarasment to the GN'R name.? Axl should be ashamed of himself for allowing such a piece of shit to exist with his name attached to it.

rather with the "Guns N' Roses" name in fact. I totally agree, and this point of vue is also valid for all of those horrible weirdo industrial songs that will ever see the light of the day under the "Guns N' Roses" name.

[rainX]

That song is an embarasment to the GN'R name.? Axl should be ashamed of himself for allowing such a piece of shit to exist with his name attached to it.

rather with the "Guns N' Roses" name in fact. I totally agree, and this point of vue is also valid for ALL of those horrible weirdo industrial songs that will ever see the light of the day under the "Guns N' Roses" name. This is a shame and a disgrace for the "Guns N' Roses" legacy. Not only that specific song, but all those indus influence songs. I really hope Axl's psycho obsession with industrial music in the mid-/late90's is gone forever. Put into the garbage. That kind of "music" (can we even call that "music"?) is a punishement for a normal human beeing's ears. Nobody has waited 10 years to hear a full "silkworms" kind of album.
To tell you the truth, this is one of my biggest fear with that album, even if I think it will be great. I think the GN'R fans and more generally the Rock community would never accept an industrial GN'R album. Never.

you know what i think axl would say to people who say it has to be this, or it has to be that? Fuck you.

And that fuck you is more "GUNS N' ROSES" than the album you're trying to put together piece by piece in your mind to be exactly what you think it should be.

[nesquick]

I know axl would say a "fuck you" to that, but sometimes it's good to listen to the others. I think the audience reaction when those industrial songs were played said it all...most of people really don't want that.

[spacebrain5000]

the blues version of toronto '02 is one of my favorite gn'r songs.
i think it's beautiful. i've spent a lot of 4am sleeplessness listening to the blues.

That version is amazing! The Fortus outro is the best I have ever heard for that song. The man is technically very skilled. This outro recalls me the Slash one in "give in to me", with a KILLER Gibson sound. However I just have a crappy bootlegs sound quality, do you have this version with a good sound? can you upload it?
thanks.

the one i have is from gnrworld.com, just go to the main site then click on MP3s
the sound quality is quite good. the only sucky thing about that recording is that it's not just the song but axl's ranting before and after the song, so you can't just put it on your playlist really. i mean it's amusing at first, but after awhile you just wanna hear the damn song. still though, the version is so amazing i could care less, really.

[jimmythegent]

the Big Daddy SCOM Solo was IMO much better than the original Appetite one, but thats just my opinion

whoah, hold up there
youre talkin one of the most memorable, classic guitar solos in history

Ive nothing against Finck, but man he butchered that

[Axl4Prez2004]

Hey Spacebrain, I tried dl'ing The Blues from Toronto, but the page is down apparently.  I haven't heard that version, but I'm partial to Boston, with Pittsburgh a close 2nd.  Boston is cleaner, with Pittsburgh being more emotional, IMO. 

...and yes, 4 years later it's still an awesome song.  I'm curious to see what happens when we as a community have to share this gem with the whole world.  It will be interesting.

   The Blues

[spacebrain5000]

i'll upload the thing myself if anyone has any suggestions of good uploading sites...
you really gotta hear it though, it's an incredible listen.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I think SIlkworms gets bashed way too much. Is it a life changing song lyrically? Of course not. But I love the idea of the osng. Its like a new kind of a punk song. Musically I think it kicks major ass. As some1 said earlier the lyrical flow doesnt flow but musically it will kick ur ass. Especially when the band jams on it.

Whoa, wait a minute.? Are we talking about the same Silkworms?? That song is atrocious.? The transitions are terrible, the song is all over the place, the music is bad.? That song is an embarasment to the GN'R name.? Axl should be ashamed of himself for allowing such a piece of shit to exist with his name attached to it.

It was played live a few times, you have no idea how the studio version is. Plus Axl said he didnt like how some of the songs sounded live, that might be why silkworms was only played a few times and not on the us tour or eurotour after rio.

[plasmabeam]

i'm also dying for the studio version of The Blues. even so, i can't get enough of the live version that i've been listenin to

[HoldenCaulfield]

Yes, it will be a HUGE song one day and will go down as a classic in the GNR history books. It's so genuine and heartfelt. Finck's solo is what dreams are made of...

[spacebrain5000]

for those of you who don't have the toronto '02 version:

http://s56.yousendit.com/d.php?id=1NB2JK553IQSS13GFO6H22UU8O


 

[Axl4Prez2004]

Spacebrain, thank you so much, that rocked!

It reminded me more of Pittsburgh than Boston.  I'm a Blues junkie!  Every version has its plus side.  It will be like I'm finding the Holy Grail when I get my hands on the studio version. 

"I was watching tv and there was a riot, and I thought I was late."   

Axl rules. 

[younggunner]

I was listening to the studio clip promo the other day and I just heard a guitar part for The Blues on it. It was only for a second or 2 but I never realized it before. The tone of it sounded cool. Has the feel of the Bucket IRS SOLO.

[jameslofton29]

Axl4Prez, that is a really shitty comment by Axl. It shows how much of a megalomaniac he really is.

[younggunner]

It shows how much of a megalomaniac he really is.

Why does it bother you though. You know what your getting with Axl. Hes not an angel. hes not gonna be on time. Hes gonna rub you and others the wrong way. Case Closed. But you have to realize thats also what makes him great. Its appealing to others.

Axl and GNR werent and never will be one of these nice and neat, orgainzed, "professional" bands.

[jameslofton29]

Youngunner, the reason it "bothers me", is because Axl's state of mind will come into play when/if he makes his comeback. This 'universe revolves around me' mentality that Axl has will more than likely kill 'new' GNR. Every time the band tries something, Rio, VMA's, 2002 tour, its always Axl's mindset that causes the GNR train to wreck. The new generation of music fans will quickly lose interest if he keeps using his same tactics. A few thousand forum members will not be able to sustain CD's success. He has to open his mind and broaden his horizons. If he refuses to do that, look for CD to be an immense failure. Regardless of how great the album is.

[Axl4Prez2004]

Axl4Prez, that is a really shitty comment by Axl. It shows how much of a megalomaniac he really is.

   Jameslofton, sorry, I really disagree with you here. ?It's a joke. ?A rather funny one at that! ?...I tried posting this when I saw your reply.  Honestly, I don't believe this humorous aside was an example of megalomania.  The whole future success of Chinese Democracy is based on Axl being true to himself, and being himself.
 Every time the band tries something, Rio, VMA's, 2002 tour, its always Axl's mindset that causes the GNR train to wreck.   ...I also disagree with you here.  How the heck do we know it was Axl's mindset that caused the GNR train to wreck? (I prefer to call them "night"train delays   This seems to be a very big assumption, and you know what happens when you assume...

   I respect Axl because he doesn't give a fuck what people think, and probably laughs when he sees people making these preposterous conclusions, when they really have no basis whatsoever.  Let's face it, all we know is rumor.

      
 ?

[jameslofton29]

I dont think its a preposterous conclusion to say the blame for the derailment rests on Axl's shoulders. Forget about the rumours. Walking off stage in mid performance of a song is insane. Making comments like the one you mentioned, although mildly amusing, is also insane. Making cryptic statements like 'Round 1' and then not backing it up is truly insane. Not showing up in Philly so thousands of paying fans could see him is insane. Saying BH's departure will take his album to "the next level" is absurd. He has to change his state of mind before 'Round 2'. If he cant, then he should just release the album with zero promotion. It would have a better chance of success. Trust me, if he continues his current track record, the public would quickly move on and new GNR will just be a small footnote in the GNR legacy. He needs to bring a new attitude with the new songs. 

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Youngunner, the reason it "bothers me", is because Axl's state of mind will come into play when/if he makes his comeback. This 'universe revolves around me' mentality that Axl has will more than likely kill 'new' GNR. Every time the band tries something, Rio, VMA's, 2002 tour, its always Axl's mindset that causes the GNR train to wreck. The new generation of music fans will quickly lose interest if he keeps using his same tactics. A few thousand forum members will not be able to sustain CD's success. He has to open his mind and broaden his horizons. If he refuses to do that, look for CD to be an immense failure. Regardless of how great the album is.

GHs sold something like 3m albums in the USA alone, CD will sell atleast that much without even trying. CD could sell close to 5-8m in the usa if its really as good as people say it is.

[Krispy Kreme]

Youngunner, the reason it "bothers me", is because Axl's state of mind will come into play when/if he makes his comeback. This 'universe revolves around me' mentality that Axl has will more than likely kill 'new' GNR. Every time the band tries something, Rio, VMA's, 2002 tour, its always Axl's mindset that causes the GNR train to wreck. The new generation of music fans will quickly lose interest if he keeps using his same tactics. A few thousand forum members will not be able to sustain CD's success. He has to open his mind and broaden his horizons. If he refuses to do that, look for CD to be an immense failure. Regardless of how great the album is.

GHs sold something like 3m albums in the USA alone, CD will sell atleast that much without even trying. CD could sell close to 5-8m in the usa if its really as good as people say it is.

"without even trying?" What does that mean? So with no promotion or any advertisement the album  will go multiple  platinum? Really?

And which people are you referring to, the ones  who worked with him 7-8 years ago?