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Horrah - after 5 years America is still holding people without trial, and torturing them too!
Some day someone's going to make an amazing film or book out of this - because it really is so tragic that it like some grand novel being played out
Holding someone without trial is abhorrent to any principles we SHOULD have, and to torture them as well.....beggars belief
...and where is the opposition to this concentration camp?
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do they torture tehm every day.... how do they torture them?...... tell me more, i want to know the details
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Kidnap and Torture American Style
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Concentration camp???
We are not brutally killing innocent people.
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Quote from: Prometheus on January 11, 2007, 11:08:26 AM
do they torture tehm every day.... how do they torture them?...... tell me more, i want to know the details
check this out
http://web.amnesty.org/pages/guantanamobay-index-eng
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Concentration camp???
We are not brutally killing innocent people.
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ok to wink and slc thanks for the links.... was not aweare of the first video that slc sent.. though its 48 mins long... and i will assume that it is a protracted video of hanous crimes that have not been followed up on....
now i know that SLC can see what my statement meant.... it was ?a fake shock and awe.... wink you have not been around enough to know the way i post.. but thanks for teh link, i was actualy looking for that article lol
my point is to contain the beast sometimes you must become the beast..... now with all that said with the behaviour of the terror's that we have seen would one ot be able to surmise that some of these treatments are a requirement for the safty and life uarentee for these prisoners
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happy birthday gitmo, you dont look a day over 3
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Quote from: Prometheus on January 11, 2007, 01:30:18 PM
my point is to contain the beast sometimes you must become the beast..... now with all that said with the behaviour of the terror's that we have seen would one ot be able to surmise that some of these treatments are a requirement for the safty and life uarentee for these prisoners
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 146
Prom, you do realise your ''point of view'' - would be used by Al-Quaeda.
How can losing our very humanity be worse than what the terrorists would do to us?
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at least we would still have CES 2020
well lets just see if we were to sit idley by after every attack that has ever been done and not increase security or go and strike the enemy, they would surely know that we would not alter anything and they would be able to get away with it time and time again........ hell what if they bombed the royal family and killed 5 thousand people in london in one strike.... would you still sit by and let things happen?
if you did as you would have us do, would you enjoy the freedoms and benifits that you do today? We have the ability to argue and have opnions contrary to that of teh goverment because of where we live. Would you have our weomen banned from an education, and an eqaulity that they enjoy today? For if we sat by and done nothing that s what would happen..... there would be nothing left.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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and for evil to triumph over good, all it takes is for good men to start doing evil things..............
2 wrongs never make a right.
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Quote from: Alan on January 12, 2007, 12:15:37 PM
and for evil to triumph over good, all it takes is for good men to start doing evil things..............
2 wrongs never make a right.
Fawkin A right.
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Quote from: Prometheus on January 12, 2007, 11:52:29 AM
at least we would still have CES 2020
well lets just see if we were to sit idley by after every attack that has ever been done and not increase security or go and strike the enemy, they would surely know that we would not alter anything and they would be able to get away with it time and time again........ hell what if they bombed the royal family and killed 5 thousand people in london in one strike.... would you still sit by and let things happen?
if you did as you would have us do, would you enjoy the freedoms and benifits that you do today? We have the ability to argue and have opnions contrary to that of teh goverment because of where we live. Would you have our weomen banned from an education, and an eqaulity that they enjoy today? For if we sat by and done nothing that s what would happen..... there would be nothing left.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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Your post is such naive nonsense I feel utterly absurd even repling
Grow up.
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Quote from: Izzy on January 12, 2007, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: Prometheus on January 12, 2007, 11:52:29 AM
at least we would still have CES 2020
well lets just see if we were to sit idley by after every attack that has ever been done and not increase security or go and strike the enemy, they would surely know that we would not alter anything and they would be able to get away with it time and time again........ hell what if they bombed the royal family and killed 5 thousand people in london in one strike.... would you still sit by and let things happen?
if you did as you would have us do, would you enjoy the freedoms and benifits that you do today? We have the ability to argue and have opnions contrary to that of teh goverment because of where we live. Would you have our weomen banned from an education, and an eqaulity that they enjoy today? For if we sat by and done nothing that s what would happen..... there would be nothing left.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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Your post is such naive nonsense I feel utterly absurd even repling
Grow up.
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Quote from: Izzy on January 12, 2007, 01:52:11 PM
Your post is such naive nonsense I feel utterly absurd even repling.
Grow up.
You missed a period in your first sentence there. And just like a wooly on your shirt, I took care of it.
You're welcome.
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Quote from: Izzy on January 11, 2007, 09:32:57 AM
Horrah - after 5 years America is still holding people without trial, and torturing them too!
Some day
someone's going to make an amazing film
or book out of this
Yay! Does it got Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson in it?
Seriously the film would suck, where's the diversity.. even hostel didn't happen in one place.. you got a thing about torture and films, don't you?
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Quote from: Prometheus on January 12, 2007, 11:52:29 AM
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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Excellent quote!
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Quote from: Sin Cut on January 15, 2007, 03:49:28 AM
Quote from: Izzy on January 11, 2007, 09:32:57 AM
Horrah - after 5 years America is still holding people without trial, and torturing them too!
Some day
someone's going to make an amazing film
or book out of this
Yay! Does it got Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson in it?
Seriously the film would suck, where's the diversity.. even hostel didn't happen in one place.. you got a thing about torture and films, don't you?
Ya know Mel Gibson would be a good choice..
Obviously your not familiar with irony....but no matter, my point (as you missed it) was that its so difficult to believe what America is doing that it might work better as a film.
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Quote from: Prometheus on January 12, 2007, 11:52:29 AM
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men don't torture the evil guys."
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Quote from: Izzy on January 15, 2007, 08:38:41 AM
Quote from: Sin Cut on January 15, 2007, 03:49:28 AM
Quote from: Izzy on January 11, 2007, 09:32:57 AM
Horrah - after 5 years America is still holding people without trial, and torturing them too!
Some day
someone's going to make an amazing film
or book out of this
Yay! Does it got Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson in it?
Seriously the film would suck, where's the diversity.. even hostel didn't happen in one place.. you got a thing about torture and films, don't you?
Ya know Mel Gibson would be a good choice..
Obviously your not familiar with irony....but no matter, my point (as you missed it) was that its so difficult to believe what America is doing that it might work better as a film.
Don't worry I got THAT.
But also in extreme circumstances you must go to the extreme.
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