8 Weeks to Go

[leatherebel]

There's a lot of people who don't complain at all, they just don't post that much.

/jarmo

Right on. Sometimes it's much better to just observe.....I've found it to be less time and energy consuming, more healthy overall, and actually more fun at times....

Also, I met a couple of people repeatedly on the shows I went to throughout the US, which in my opinion were some of the coolest and most dedicated gn'r fans I've ever seen. Despite being members here and on other boards, these people very rarely post, let alone complain. Made me re-evaluate my view of and behaviour on the boards.....

Sorry for the off-topic.

[LunsJail]

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Not that he doesn't care his letter showed us that he does. But fuck it seems like everyone wants an update breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Get a fuckin' grip on reality. It's gonna be a great GNR Year.

I think it must be newer Guns fans that are getting impatient and complaining. I'm new to this board but have been waiting for this album for about 10 years.  So for someone like me, the recent flurry of activity (touring, announcements, etc.) is exciting as hell and there's nothing at all to complain about.  Just think how far things have come from about a year ago.

It will be out sometime this spring or summer, that's good enough for me.

[bringbackadler]

Attention everyone, especially you negative-minded posters.......

Axl said the album would be out so therefore, the album will be out.

That being said, shut the fuck up and just live your lives until said album is out.

Thank you very fucking much for your co-operation in this matter!!!

No offense, but do you really think a post telling everyone to shut the f--- up is really the way to get everyone to chill out who has been whining ? How about a simple shhhhhhhh !!!

[bringbackadler]

Didn't I hear somewhere that February is Chinese New Year. Seems like the perfect time to get the promotion rolling... but we'll see ....


"Tentative" sounds better than "soon".

[fear the juggalo]

tentative sounds like a cop out. but i hope im wrong!!!

[GNRSANDMAN]

tentative sounds like a cop out. but i hope im wrong!!!

100% agreed.  Sounds like he finally buckeled in under the presure to set a date.

[LunsJail]

tentative sounds like a cop out. but i hope im wrong!!!

100% agreed.? Sounds like he finally buckeled in under the presure to set a date.

Or maybe the album is almost finished

[FunkyMonkey]

It looks like Harley-Davidson has pulled the "check back soon for the upcoming song Better" from their Black Sheep Ad on the website.

I wonder if GNR have a new marketing plan and it does not include this ad.

I quess we will have to wait and see...

[Nytunz]

Axl said in the Letter, that they would drop the january dates because they wanted to concentrate on the promoting of Guns N Roses next album.
So? Does people know what that mean? Like tings is right now, it will be out in March, coz we still havent heard anything else.. They are planning the release as we speak, so i dont get why some people think that the album still isnt finished.

[vince41090]

tentative sounds like a cop out. but i hope im wrong!!!

100% agreed.  Sounds like he finally buckeled in under the presure to set a date.

Or maybe the album is almost finished

Wow this album has been almost finished for a long time now, hasn't it!? 
Lets guess how "soon" the next "tentative" release date will be announced and how many more times Axl can lay down the "Final Vocals" before the end of 2006!!!  Oh wait!!! We're in 2007 already?? Wow, time really does fly when you're having fun, counting down the tuesdays that Chinese Democracy has not been released, that is  ) But everything must be going okay now since Axl, oh excuse me - Beta, wrote us a letter telling us how sorry Axl really is!! Guys lets just stay positive about this whole situation because evidence clearly supports the idea that the album is done and it's just Managements fault for not promoting it!! I mean it really shouldn't matter that Universal doesn't have the cd yet because it's always a smart marketing plan to promote a product you don't have  For all you negative nancy's on here, don't complain!!! The album is "coming soon". Sorry that one was used back in 2002  I'll try again. The album is done and "there are only 13 tuesday's left in the year"!!! Wait, sorry!! Did I screw up again??
Last try, I promise  "March 6"!!!

Hmm... In regards to all of Jarmo's complaining about being "negative". I completely understand his rationale that after being let down year after year, with Axl's word being broken year after year, it's not at all in human nature to complain 
Keep your heads up guys and don't you dare voice your opinion!!! 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and now 2007 is finally the year of Chinese Democracy!!!

[downzy56]

Axl said in the Letter, that they would drop the january dates because they wanted to concentrate on the promoting of Guns N Roses next album.
So? Does people know what that mean? Like tings is right now, it will be out in March, coz we still havent heard anything else.. They are planning the release as we speak, so i dont get why some people think that the album still isnt finished.

I think some of the concern for some is the whole eight weeks thing specified by Axl (hence the title and purpose of the thread).  To some, it doesn't make much sense to cancel the four remaining dates if the album was suppose to be in last week to make the tentative date of March 6.  Generally, and I do emphasis the word generally, the release of a single marks the beginning of eight week period Axl was speaking of.  There are exceptions, and perhaps when Axl said eight weeks he was including the inital marketing plans and meetings concerning the single. 

Who really knows.  The point of the thread is just exactly that: it's eight weeks from March 6th and some would like to hear something by now.

Cheers,

Andrew

[jarmo]

Keep your heads up guys and don't you dare voice your opinion!!! 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and now 2007 is finally the year of Chinese Democracy!!!

How many times in the past did you have a tentative release date?



Keep comparing apples and oranges. You're very good at it.

So, let's play your "everything is just like it was in the past  " game:

In January 2007 we have: A tentative release date in March. The band finished touring in December after playing in Europe and North America with several sold out shows.

January 2006 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2005 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2004 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2003 we had: No tentative release date and in the previous year a few shows in Asia and Europe plus a tour that ended too early.
January 2002 we had: No tentative release date and no tours. Rcok In Rio 3 was a year ago.





/jarmo

[Bodhi]

Keep your heads up guys and don't you dare voice your opinion!!! 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and now 2007 is finally the year of Chinese Democracy!!!

How many times in the past did you have a tentative release date?



Keep comparing apples and oranges. You're very good at it.

So, let's play your "everything is just like it was in the past? " game:

In January 2007 we have: A tentative release date in March. The band finished touring in December after playing in Europe and North America with several sold out shows.

January 2006 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2005 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2004 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2003 we had: No tentative release date and in the previous year a few shows in Asia and Europe plus a tour that ended too early.
January 2002 we had: No tentative release date and no tours. Rcok In Rio 3 was a year ago.





/jarmo

Dont forget from 1994 till early 2001 we had ALMOST NO INFORMATION AT ALL..(with the exception of a short Rolling Stone interview, and the phone interview with Kurt Loder)..let alone a tentative release date....Every date that has come and gone between 1994 and now was pure speculation by someone other than the band...this is the first ever date the band has given us...how come so many people have trouble understanding that?

[downzy56]

Keep your heads up guys and don't you dare voice your opinion!!! 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and now 2007 is finally the year of Chinese Democracy!!!

How many times in the past did you have a tentative release date?



Keep comparing apples and oranges. You're very good at it.

So, let's play your "everything is just like it was in the past  " game:

In January 2007 we have: A tentative release date in March. The band finished touring in December after playing in Europe and North America with several sold out shows.

January 2006 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2005 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2004 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2003 we had: No tentative release date and in the previous year a few shows in Asia and Europe plus a tour that ended too early.
January 2002 we had: No tentative release date and no tours. Rcok In Rio 3 was a year ago.





/jarmo

I'm happy for a tentative release date, but is it unfounded to be just a little weary considering this is Guns N' Roses we're talking about?  You even said yourself Jarmo when the album failed to materialize in 2006.  I do think that Axl believes in the March 6th date, and that's a good thing.  In the end, I suppose a release date that Axl believes in is the best he can give the fans right now.  It's not like he could have said, "March 6th, but realistically, June 5th."  But anyone who's followed this band as much and as long as some of us know it's hard to take their word without some level of cynicism.

Cheers,

Andrew

[freedom78]

tentative sounds like a cop out. but i hope im wrong!!!

100% agreed.  Sounds like he finally buckeled in under the presure to set a date.

To me, tentative means that, if things go as planned, that IS the expected release date.  But it isn't set in stone, because there were (at the time of the letter) still things to be done (which Axl said were "minor").  I don't think it's a cop out.  Maybe by setting a tentative date, Axl is hoping to pressure himself to keep up with a timeline, so that there aren't further delays?  No matter what, a release date, albeit tentative, is good news to me.  They announced it about 12 weeks before that date.  They could miss it by 20% and still release in March.  To announce a March date equates with little enough to do that, should things go smoothly, it can be done by then.  Things may not go smoothly, but we do know there isn't that much more to be done.  Cheer up, doomsayers! 

[Soori]

LISTEN ITS GONA COME OUTTT..DONT WORRY..JUS STOP TALKIN ABOUT IT!

[downzy56]

LISTEN ITS GONA COME OUTTT..DONT WORRY..JUS STOP TALKIN ABOUT IT!

So what would you have us do at a message board?

[vince41090]

Keep your heads up guys and don't you dare voice your opinion!!! 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and now 2007 is finally the year of Chinese Democracy!!!

How many times in the past did you have a tentative release date?



Keep comparing apples and oranges. You're very good at it.

So, let's play your "everything is just like it was in the past  " game:

In January 2007 we have: A tentative release date in March. The band finished touring in December after playing in Europe and North America with several sold out shows.

January 2006 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2005 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2004 we had: No tentative release date and no tours.
January 2003 we had: No tentative release date and in the previous year a few shows in Asia and Europe plus a tour that ended too early.
January 2002 we had: No tentative release date and no tours. Rcok In Rio 3 was a year ago.





/jarmo

Let's compare then.
January 2007 we had: No album
January 2006 we had: No album
January 2005 we had: No album
January 2004 we had: No album
January 2003 we had: No album
January 2002 we had: No album

Everything looks the same to me 

[cineater]

I think it's different and I've been here since 99. 

One big difference is Axl.  He's in the public eye, before it was like a bigfoot sighting if you saw him.

[vince41090]

I think it's different and I've been here since 99. 

One big difference is Axl.  He's in the public eye, before it was like a bigfoot sighting if you saw him.

I guess 2002 was just one long Bigfoot sighting then...