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« on: January 09, 2007, 07:04:11 PM »

Ok, we have 8 weeks until March 6th.  That is the exact timeframe in which Axl himself said that the album needed to be turned over to the record company for proper promotion.  How many people here think that GNR wrapped up all their loose ends and submitted the albnum by today at some point?  I think with the holidays, the answers got to be "unlikely".  I just hope they let us know asap if the album will be delayed.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 07:09:35 PM »

Ok, we have 8 weeks until March 6th.? That is the exact timeframe in which Axl himself said that the album needed to be turned over to the record company for proper promotion.? How many people here think that GNR wrapped up all their loose ends and submitted the albnum by today at some point?? I think with the holidays, the answers got to be "unlikely".? I just hope they let us know asap if the album will be delayed.

8 weeks give or take, it doesn't necessarily have to be today they hand the album in.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 07:10:59 PM »

they will man dont worry in the mean time have beer beer or a cig ?smoking
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 07:11:49 PM »

march 6 is a tentative date.  that means its not for sure supposed to come out then.  it doesn't really matter if it was submitted today imo, because we know the ball is rolling and the album will be out soon one way or another.  besides, he said he would let us know as soon as possible if there are any more delays.  i'm cool with all that.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 07:12:07 PM »

We're most likely already looking at a later date than the 6th.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 07:14:54 PM »

I wouldn't doubt if it's a week or 2 later than the first date we've been given.  But I can handle that.  Atleast we know for sure it's just around the corner this time.  beer
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 07:21:38 PM »

I think that "tentative release date" is the key words here, so if we are looking at a later date...let's just hope its not too much later. ok



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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 07:25:05 PM »

I think that "tentative release date" is the key words here, so if we are looking at a later date...let's just hope its not too much later. ok


You're right - "tentative" is the word.  I'm as hopeful as the next fan, but the last thing I want to see are "'x' weeks/days left" threads popping up constantly between now and March.  The waiting itself is hard enough, you know?
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 07:35:26 PM »

I wouldn't doubt if it's a week or 2 later than the first date we've been given.? But I can handle that.? Atleast we know for sure it's just around the corner this time.? beer

we know nothing for sure Undecided we dont even know if the album is finished Undecided i hope it is...but until we get some official word we cant assume anything. to do so would just set us up for disappointment again. Sad

i think the 8 weeks is so that they can get all the pressing printing, ordering and shipping sorted out....not sure though.

I think that "tentative release date" is the key words here, so if we are looking at a later date...let's just hope its not too much later. ok


You're right - "tentative" is the word. I'm as hopeful as the next fan, but the last thing I want to see are "'x' weeks/days left" threads popping up constantly between now and March. The waiting itself is hard enough, you know?

we've waited this long what is another few months....now more than ever we just gotta have patience
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2007, 08:00:01 PM »

I guess my point was that we should start to hear things now if its on schedule.  They have stated they want the proper promotion.  That means a single about 4-6 weeks before the album debuts.  That's possibly 2 weeks from now!
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 08:11:37 PM »

Sometime in March is my hope. yes
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2007, 08:18:03 PM »

If they get it done this week/early next week, they'd probably? be OK, but I think any release in March or April is fine anyway. Come on. It's this close, what's a little longer. At least we know they're wrapping it up. If this drags on to May, though, I'm really gonna get worried. Shades of 2003.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2007, 08:21:31 PM »

This is why Axl's letter doesn't make complete sense if you were take him literally as he has explained matters.

In his 'open' letter, Axl outlines how the final four remaining shows are to be canceled for the sake of Chinese Democracy.  He then says that it takes 8 weeks for an album to be given a proper launch.  But if you look at when the last concert was to be played, it's Jan. 16th, a full week after the needed date to hand in the album for it to be out for March 6th.  Why would they cancel the remaining four shows if most of the loose ends were going to be done by Jan 9th?  Of course, this is all under the assumption that it takes a full eight weeks from album submission to retail sale. 

My gut feeling is that the March 6th date was something given by the band to appease the fans.  The album was suppose to come out in 2006.  Unable to deliver, Axl gave the next best thing: a tentative release date.  I'm thinking that come late feb or early march, we'll get an annoucement from the band and record label for a concrete date; one that is much farther away from March 6th.  My guess is late April to early June.  If you can't deliver what's promised, the obvious course of action is to give the next best thing.  We will all get to our destination, but not when the ticket says so.

Again, all of this is assumption and guess work on my part from an uninformed fan just spewing his thoughts.  I have no doubts in Axl's ability to create some amazing music and perform like no other, but after 10 years of this, the pattern becomes a little more apparent.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2007, 08:26:25 PM »

i think the tour dates were cancelled to finish the album like axl said

because if there in the studio going over final mixes and taking care of artwork and promotional things like we think they are there  would be no time to practice foer the gigs
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2007, 08:29:21 PM »

This is why Axl's letter doesn't make complete sense if you were take him literally as he has explained matters.

In his 'open' letter, Axl outlines how the final four remaining shows are to be canceled for the sake of Chinese Democracy.? He then says that it takes 8 weeks for an album to be given a proper launch.? But if you look at when the last concert was to be played, it's Jan. 16th, a full week after the needed date to hand in the album for it to be out for March 6th.? Why would they cancel the remaining four shows if most of the loose ends were going to be done by Jan 9th?? Of course, this is all under the assumption that it takes a full eight weeks from album submission to retail sale.?

My gut feeling is that the March 6th date was something given by the band to appease the fans.? The album was suppose to come out in 2006.? Unable to deliver, Axl gave the next best thing: a tentative release date.? I'm thinking that come late feb or early march, we'll get an annoucement from the band and record label for a concrete date; one that is much farther away from March 6th.? My guess is late April to early June.? If you can't deliver what's promised, the obvious course of action is to give the next best thing.? We will all get to our destination, but not when the ticket says so.

Again, all of this is assumption and guess work on my part from an uninformed fan just spewing his thoughts.? I have no doubts in Axl's ability to create some amazing music and perform like no other, but after 10 years of this, the pattern becomes a little more apparent.

Cheers,

Andrew

A tentative date is a tentative date. By March 6th you should expect at least the promotion to have started.

On a side note - The audio manager for HMV Canada has not heard anything new from their Universal rep. Still no album from Axl.
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2007, 08:35:10 PM »

Being on tour can be rough enough.


Any artist will tell you it's not the optimal thing to be on the road and finishing your new album.

It might work for something recorded for fun, like artists sometimes do ("The Spaghetti Incident?" is one example), but I don't think this album is one of those.



With that in mind, read what Axl said:


With that being said, this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee, but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6. This is the first time we have done this publicly for this album. Others have made up all the other dates for their own reasons. We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible. We thank you for your patience.


As soon as they have more news, we'll know.

All this speculation about what's going on and if they're already missed the tentative date is nothing more than uninformed speculation.

Now relax.  ok




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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2007, 08:58:53 PM »

Being on tour can be rough enough.


Any artist will tell you it's not the optimal thing to be on the road and finishing your new album.

It might work for something recorded for fun, like artists sometimes do ("The Spaghetti Incident?" is one example), but I don't think this album is one of those.



With that in mind, read what Axl said:


With that being said, this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee, but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6. This is the first time we have done this publicly for this album. Others have made up all the other dates for their own reasons. We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible. We thank you for your patience.


As soon as they have more news, we'll know.

All this speculation about what's going on and if they're already missed the tentative date is nothing more than uninformed speculation.

Now relax.  ok




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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2007, 09:06:04 PM »

He said its coming and we've waited this long already, so who cares?  I think Axl likes to build suspense.  So just wait because it will eventually be here.
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2007, 09:12:10 PM »

The 06 of March are date attempt, not confirmed.

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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2007, 09:13:39 PM »

Being on tour can be rough enough.


Any artist will tell you it's not the optimal thing to be on the road and finishing your new album.

It might work for something recorded for fun, like artists sometimes do ("The Spaghetti Incident?" is one example), but I don't think this album is one of those.



With that in mind, read what Axl said:


With that being said, this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee, but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6. This is the first time we have done this publicly for this album. Others have made up all the other dates for their own reasons. We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible. We thank you for your patience.


As soon as they have more news, we'll know.

All this speculation about what's going on and if they're already missed the tentative date is nothing more than uninformed speculation.

Now relax.? ok




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