rumours of the bands whereabouts / Axl in Vegas

[Bartlet]

so who cares if its march 20? as long as they are finishing the cd!! axl they said neded 2-3 days to finish the cd. well that would mean stuff for him to work on. say he finishes it this week. It doesnt take that long to mix something

No, it only takes 7 years. We don't know anything about the state of CD, so let's not assume mixing is all that remains.

And lets not assume that it is not.

I have logic and statistics backing me up, all you got is hope. I'll assume nothing's done if only not to be let down again.

hey i agree it pays to be a pessimist, especially with gnr. all im saying is people make a host of assumptions bout what has been done and what remains. we simply dont know tho.

people assume for example that if theres still work to be done, then nothing has been mixed. but perhaps songs can be mixed as and when theyre finished, so most songs are probably entirely done.

[jarmo]

This is from Axl's letter:

In regard to a release date for the album itself, certain minor - and I do mean minor -- additions, as well as contract negotiations, need to be completed.

Looks like he's doing just that.

What's the problem?




/jarmo

[ibelieveinaxl]

This is from Axl's letter:

In regard to a release date for the album itself, certain minor - and I do mean minor -- additions, as well as contract negotiations, need to be completed.

Looks like he's doing just that.

What's the problem?




/jarmo

i dont think its a problem at all. but what does "minor" mean? i have no idea what he means by that. if he gave more specifics, that would help define what he means by minor. minor in ones opinion may or may not be minor to another...we just have no idea what he means by the term "minor." if someone knows, let me know....

[The Legend]

This is from Axl's letter:

In regard to a release date for the album itself, certain minor - and I do mean minor -- additions, as well as contract negotiations, need to be completed.

Looks like he's doing just that.

What's the problem?




/jarmo

i dont think its a problem at all. but what does "minor" mean? i have no idea what he means by that. if he gave more specifics, that would help define what he means by minor. minor in ones opinion may or may not be minor to another...we just have no idea what he means by the term "minor." if someone knows, let me know....

Who knows. It could be something as small as deciding from three different covers.

[polluxlm]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

[ibelieveinaxl]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

again, this statement is right on. bottom line is that i want the cd as badly as anyone else. but i won't believe a thing until i have it in my hands...

[jarmo]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

He might have, but he never gave a tentative release date before.

So I assume minor means minor.



/jarmo

[The Legend]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

He might have, but he never gave a tentative release date before.

So I assume minor means minor.



/jarmo

Exactly, despite what people think & the media lies about... this is the FIRST time this has ever happened.

[polluxlm]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

He might have, but he never gave a tentative release date before.

So I assume minor means minor.



/jarmo

That is true, and might be the only hint of increased progress, real progress. I'll remain skeptical after last years 'happening', but I must also admit I feel this could be for real now. If only because he's dug to many trenches to climb out of this time around.

He's not an idiot, so he must feel confident he'll make it. Then again, it's Axl.

Either way, things need to start happening soon.

[ibelieveinaxl]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

He might have, but he never gave a tentative release date before.

So I assume minor means minor.



/jarmo

well, that is sort of true. as we all know , when asked if the cd was coming out before the end of 2006, axl said "yes." and yes he said 3/6 was a "tentative date." but that gives him a lot of wiggle room if it does get pushed back again and i hope it doesn't. and as for "minor", how can one define a word with the word itself?? the question is, "what does minor mean to him?" i have no idea.

[The Legend]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

He might have, but he never gave a tentative release date before.

So I assume minor means minor.



/jarmo

well, that is sort of true. as we all know , when asked if the cd was coming out before the end of 2006, axl said "yes." and yes he said 3/6 was a "tentative date." but that gives him a lot of wiggle room if it does get pushed back again and i hope it doesn't. and as for "minor", how can one define a word with the word itself?? the question is, "what does minor mean to him?" i have no idea.

Only W. Axl Rose knows what 'minor' means man, otherwise... blame Canada.

[ibelieveinaxl]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

He might have, but he never gave a tentative release date before.

So I assume minor means minor.



/jarmo

well, that is sort of true. as we all know , when asked if the cd was coming out before the end of 2006, axl said "yes." and yes he said 3/6 was a "tentative date." but that gives him a lot of wiggle room if it does get pushed back again and i hope it doesn't. and as for "minor", how can one define a word with the word itself?? the question is, "what does minor mean to him?" i have no idea.

Only W. Axl Rose knows what 'minor' means man, otherwise... blame Canada.

exactly my point.........

[Bartlet]

The problem is that Axl has said 'minor' before, years ago. It doesn't matter what remains, all I know is that as long as there are more stuff to be done it can go on indefinitely.

One should never apply normal assumptions to Axl Rose.

As long as the album is in Axl's possession anything can happen. Not just as long as theres "more stuffto be done". I'm assuming when its handed over to the label its then entirely their say what happens to it, but i could be wrong.

My point being, theres little point in worrying.

[bazgnr]

This is from Axl's letter:

In regard to a release date for the album itself, certain minor - and I do mean minor -- additions, as well as contract negotiations, need to be completed.

Looks like he's doing just that.

What's the problem?




/jarmo

The problem is that we've actually managed to go a week or two around here without having anything to mindlessly speculate about, forcing most of us into discussions about things that we had legitimate information on.? I, for one, was kind of enjoying it...

[A Private Eye]

If you read Axls letter and assume this report in Vegas is true then I would say this exactly when I expected Axl to be in the studio. It was unlikely it was going to be finished over the holidays, this last week and perhaps the coming week would need to be when he was in the studo if we wanted to see a March 6th release, and apparently he is in the studio so I see no reason to worry right now. At the moment I think things seem to be running to schedule.

[FunkyMonkey]

We are just guessing.

There was a report that "Guns n Roses members (they did not list who) were in a nightclub in Vegas on Dec. 30th".  And we know that Axl was there on the 31st.  This article does not give a date as to when they were in the studio...so who knows how long they have been there.  I also think the words "tentative release date" is key.

[jarmo]

well, that is sort of true. as we all know , when asked if the cd was coming out before the end of 2006, axl said "yes." and yes he said 3/6 was a "tentative date." but that gives him a lot of wiggle room if it does get pushed back again and i hope it doesn't. and as for "minor", how can one define a word with the word itself?? the question is, "what does minor mean to him?" i have no idea.

As he explained himself, he thought it would be possible to get it out in 2006:

When I agreed to do our recent North American tour, I did it with the understanding that my manager, Merck Mercuriadis, and I were in full agreement regarding our strategy and touring plans and, most important, that any and all things needed to release the album by Dec. 26 at the latest were in place. Unfortunately, it turned out that this was not the case, and I regret to say that the album will not be released by the end of the year.

Sometime between the VMAs and the letter, he must've realized it wasn't gonna happen.


I don't think he would've put the tentative release date in the letter unless he believed in it.

Now, I understand the meaning of the word, as do many others here. It's not just up to Axl to get it out on that date.

There are a lot of stuff that needs to fall into place. A record doesn't magically appear in the shops as soon as an artist says it's done....




/jarmo

[ibelieveinaxl]

well, that is sort of true. as we all know , when asked if the cd was coming out before the end of 2006, axl said "yes." and yes he said 3/6 was a "tentative date." but that gives him a lot of wiggle room if it does get pushed back again and i hope it doesn't. and as for "minor", how can one define a word with the word itself?? the question is, "what does minor mean to him?" i have no idea.

As he explained himself, he thought it would be possible to get it out in 2006:

When I agreed to do our recent North American tour, I did it with the understanding that my manager, Merck Mercuriadis, and I were in full agreement regarding our strategy and touring plans and, most important, that any and all things needed to release the album by Dec. 26 at the latest were in place. Unfortunately, it turned out that this was not the case, and I regret to say that the album will not be released by the end of the year.

Sometime between the VMAs and the letter, he must've realized it wasn't gonna happen.


I don't think he would've put the tentative release date in the letter unless he believed in it.

Now, I understand the meaning of the word, as do many others here. It's not just up to Axl to get it out on that date.

There are a lot of stuff that needs to fall into place. A record doesn't magically appear in the shops as soon as an artist says it's done....




/jarmo

well, i don't know the meaning of "minor" is in this context, and no one does, except axl. also, i agree that it isn't just up to the band regarding a cd's release date. however, if a band gives a date for a release and then someone says that it isn't just up to the band regarding the release date, then giving a release date is meaningless unless the band knows that everything is done and ready to go. any business owner (in this case, axl) should be held accountable for the things he says about his company.

[Kov]

I hope "minor" will not become similar to "soon"

[Alan]

final vocals, could mean anything from a couple of additional layers to one track, to re-doing an entire song. but since axl said minor additions, i'm assuming it's only gonna be a couple of layers.