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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2007, 01:42:00 PM »

It doesn't suprise me izzy is not on there or was taken out.  look at the sleeves on the UYI albums. Izzy doesn't even play on alot of the songs at all. like Civil War, Shotgun Blues or Locomotive. Not that I approve of him not being on there, But it doesn't surprise me.

Besides a good bit of the songs on "live Era" was re-recorded anyway. As we all know.

that's just writing credits, not playing.

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Its very true. and if u take a listen to old GNR concerts even with gibly Slash usually dominates the band. you can barely if at all hear the rythem playing of izzy and gilby they are so low in the mix its not even funny. u can most notice it in solos when Slash stops playing the chords and goes into lead. You expecting to hear the rythem strong in the mix like on the albums but you can pick up slash's lead and drums and bass but rythem guitar is no wheres to be found.
That wouldn't suprise me massively.  I remember reading that Slash wasn't happy about working with a rhythm guitarist, so it would make sense that as Izzy started to give less and less of a fuck, and slash more or less assumed the role of 2IC he would muscle out Izzy/Gilby. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2007, 02:02:10 PM »

It doesn't suprise me izzy is not on there or was taken out.? look at the sleeves on the UYI albums. Izzy doesn't even play on alot of the songs at all. like Civil War, Shotgun Blues or Locomotive. Not that I approve of him not being on there, But it doesn't surprise me.

Besides a good bit of the songs on "live Era" was re-recorded anyway. As we all know.

that's just writing credits, not playing.

Both credits are listed.

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Its very true. and if u take a listen to old GNR concerts even with gibly Slash usually dominates the band. you can barely if at all hear the rythem playing of izzy and gilby they are so low in the mix its not even funny. u can most notice it in solos when Slash stops playing the chords and goes into lead. You expecting to hear the rythem strong in the mix like on the albums but you can pick up slash's lead and drums and bass but rythem guitar is no wheres to be found.
That wouldn't suprise me massively.? I remember reading that Slash wasn't happy about working with a rhythm guitarist, so it would make sense that as Izzy started to give less and less of a fuck, and slash more or less assumed the role of 2IC he would muscle out Izzy/Gilby.?

And that was a real shame Cry
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2007, 02:34:12 PM »

It doesn't suprise me izzy is not on there or was taken out.  look at the sleeves on the UYI albums. Izzy doesn't even play on alot of the songs at all. like Civil War, Shotgun Blues or Locomotive. Not that I approve of him not being on there, But it doesn't surprise me.

Besides a good bit of the songs on "live Era" was re-recorded anyway. As we all know.

that's just writing credits, not playing.

Both credits are listed.

Oh yeah, you're right.  Sorry Sad
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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2007, 01:22:39 AM »

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Its very true. and if u take a listen to old GNR concerts even with gibly Slash usually dominates the band. you can barely if at all hear the rythem playing of izzy and gilby they are so low in the mix its not even funny. u can most notice it in solos when Slash stops playing the chords and goes into lead. You expecting to hear the rythem strong in the mix like on the albums but you can pick up slash's lead and drums and bass but rythem guitar is no wheres to be found.
That wouldn't suprise me massively.  I remember reading that Slash wasn't happy about working with a rhythm guitarist, so it would make sense that as Izzy started to give less and less of a fuck, and slash more or less assumed the role of 2IC he would muscle out Izzy/Gilby. 

But Slash also said he loved to work with Gilby. And I don't know about you guys but I can easily hear Izzy/Gilby playing on bootlegs. But this Rocket Queen version from Live Era is a whole different thing. But I don't know, there's so much other things on the album bothering me Tongue
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