Chinese Democracy sales predictions & First week sales

[da_pope]

God, you guys are so naive.

4 million is a very VERY genrous figure.

[destroier]

10 mil. is not what it used to be, check out all the crap that sells 5-6 million. Most good albums sell 10 mil now in two years.

the last rock record to sell 10 000 000 was Nirvana's "Nevermind" and that took quite a long time.
It took Appitite 'till like what... 1999(?) to achive that. It is not happening. There is no possible way in hell it could happen.

CD sales haven't gone up, they've plummeted since downloading started. Linkin Park sold 10 mil. in the U.S. just a few years ago.

  Ha.... Ten million... Haha.

Those records are for the U.S. alone. World numbers are quite a bit higher. Appetite hit ten million a looong time ago.

[ARC]

I just worked it out.

6 billion people on the planet. Eagles sold 30 mil.

That means 0.5% of the world population owns that Eagles record. 

[destroier]

Now figure in all the people that bought and wore out 5 LPs, then 5 tapes, and then bought 2 CDs.

[Bostonrose]

I have to agree ?

GnR were at the hight of their popularity during the Illusion albums release. And after combined sales of both albums and touring for nearly 3 years, they just pushed passed 30 million, and that was 15 million for one Illusion and 15 million for the other.

And you really think now in the year 2006 (if it is released) that it's going to sell 10 million copies, ain't going to happen at all imo.

30 million copies?  Are you on another planet?  neither sold 15 million,  that would be more than AFD,   where are those numbers coming from?

It may be 15 million combined,  not each

[Origen]

I have to agree ?

GnR were at the hight of their popularity during the Illusion albums release. And after combined sales of both albums and touring for nearly 3 years, they just pushed passed 30 million, and that was 15 million for one Illusion and 15 million for the other.

And you really think now in the year 2006 (if it is released) that it's going to sell 10 million copies, ain't going to happen at all imo.

30 million copies?? Are you on another planet?? neither sold 15 million,? that would be more than AFD,? ?where are those numbers coming from?

It may be 15 million combined,? not each

Use Your Illusion volume I & II, sold 2 million copies the first week the albums were out. Volume II totally sold 7 million copies in USA, and probably a bit more than 15 million copies totally.

Also there is a interview with Matt talkin in about 1999, where he says the band hit 32 Million sales worldwide and Axl wanted to try and push it to 35 but they couldn't go on.

[gnrkid03]

If they really promote this album a month before it comes out and put out a killer single that people really enjoy before it comes out, I could easily see it doing around 600k.  Think Im crazy?  Nope... it'll be promoted as the first GNR album in forever, there seems to be a genuine interest in GNR in 2006 for some strange reason, and a great song is a great song that can only lead to success.  It's not so far fetched to hit 600k.

[jsg2295]

In the US, I see it doing 3.5 mil. Over seas...who knows. But I know I will be buying at least four of those puppies.

[ROSE22]

i think it will sell better than greatest hits and contraband.  i see it selling around 5 million which would be a smashing success in this day and age.

[ROSE22]

Don't forget we will be given 3 albums over the years ?

(at least that's the plan so far ? )

i know there was talk of that but i am with jamesloften29 when he said that axl should put all the biggest guns on one lp and tour the piss out of it through 2007. i also think a reunion would be the smartest choice after chinese democracy but who knows. 

[ROSE22]

Don't forget we will be given 3 albums over the years ?

(at least that's the plan so far ? )

i know there was talk of that but i am with jamesloften29 when he said that axl should put all the biggest guns on one lp and tour the piss out of it through 2007. i also think a reunion would be the smartest choice after chinese democracy but who knows.?

I think Guns fans should stop with "Axl should do this and Axl should do that". Axl does what he wants to do. just my opinion and a right i have. settle down boy. 

He is smart enough, if his plan is indeed a multi-release, to bring us THREE COHERENT AND WELL BALANCED albums.

Why not simply ENJOY THE MOMENT for once? For how long have we been waiting for THIS to happen?

Back on topic, I think Chinese Democracy will sell PRETTY well. Good music, good new songs, great band with charismatic and talented individualities, long long long awaited almost mythic album and, as someone mentioned earlier, and this is SO true, people AND fans HATING Guns n' Roses with passion!.. We may have a magic recipe here...

[icpillusions]

If I had to give a figure it would be around 2-3 mill in the US. But Worldwide is a whole different total.

It is a fact that a lot of people hate the New Lineup for some reason.  Maybe it is because it is real music and nothing like the stuff they hear on the radio now.

[da_pope]

If I had to give a figure it would be around 2-3 mill in the US. But Worldwide is a whole different total.

It is a fact that a lot of people hate the New Lineup for some reason.? Maybe it is because it is real music and nothing like the stuff they hear on the radio now.

Maybe it's because there imposters.

[jimmythegent]

Id say it can be considered a big success if it hits 2 mill in the US and a huge success if it hits 3 mill

any more than that and i'll be very surprised especially given the nature of the material we've heard so far and Axls description that it is 'complex'

[gnrkid03]

Also there is a interview with Matt talkin in about 1999, where he says the band hit 32 Million sales worldwide and Axl wanted to try and push it to 35 but they couldn't go on.

Make that 32 million in the US alone.... its around the 80 millionish range worldwide.  AFD has sold around 15 million alone in the US, add that to 2-3 million for Lies, about 15 for UYI, and 2 million for Spaghetti and Live Era combined.  Plus, these are old numbers.  I think AFD is around 18-19 million now.

[SWINGTRADER]

If this was the old lineup  then that would be a totally different story, but this is the new lineup and not many people have warmed up to them . So I think if they sold 100,000 worldwide  it wouldn't surprise me.

[Axl_owns_dexter]

So I think if they sold 100,000 worldwide  it wouldn't surprise me.

Thats just way too pessimistic.  I say that in the US, it sells no less than 2 million and no more than 4 million.  We already know this album has 2 good singles, Better and The Blues.  That and curiousity should sell this album.

[da_pope]

If this was the old lineup? then that would be a totally different story, but this is the new lineup and not many people have warmed up to them . So I think if they sold 100,000 worldwide? it wouldn't surprise me.

K thats way too low.
100,000 is less then Snakepit.

[EFISH]

Now, i dont know numbers records usually get but i can say this... Chinese Democracy is going to be huge..and 15 years after it is out..it willl have sold more than AFD, i can almost guarentee this people, i am a physcic.. though it wouldnt take a physcic to realize this.

we'll have to wait and see..

the day CD is released, will be the second happiest moment of my 15 year life.
 

[Tomorrows]

It will be bigger than skeptics think, but smaller than us fans hope.

There are a lot of dormant GnR fans of old out there who will pick it up I think. That is contigent on a decent advertising campaign though.