Here Today... Gone To Hell! | Message Board


Guns N Roses
of all the message boards on the internet, this is one...

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 23, 2024, 06:36:47 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
1228739 Posts in 43282 Topics by 9264 Members
Latest Member: EllaGNR
* Home Help Calendar Go to HTGTH Login Register
+  Here Today... Gone To Hell!
|-+  Guns N' Roses
| |-+  Guns N' Roses
| | |-+  How many copies do you think Chinese Democracy will sell?
0 Members and 6 Guests are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 Go Down Print
Author Topic: How many copies do you think Chinese Democracy will sell?  (Read 30996 times)
oki
Opening Act
*

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 5


« Reply #160 on: May 18, 2009, 06:48:46 AM »

Appetite For Destruction (1987)  Total Worldwidesales       : 29.800.000
GNR Lies (1988)                          Total Worldwidesales        : 10.100.000
Use Your Illusion 1 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 17.800.000
Use Your Illusion 2 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 18.600.000
The Spaghetti Incident ? (1993)   Total Worldwidesales       : 5.700.000
Live Era '87-'93 (1999)                 Total Worldwidesales        : 2.400.000
Greatest Hits (2004)                    Total Worldwidesales        : 8.800.000
Chinese Democracy (2008)          Total Worldwidesales        : 3.000.000
 
www.worldwidealbums.net




Logged
jacdaniel
Legend
*****

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1547


Give me a gitane!


« Reply #161 on: May 18, 2009, 09:52:43 AM »

that sucks for chinese democracy and live era!
Logged

"i can tell you a thing or two about something else if you really wanna know? know what im saying? "
AtariLegend
Not User Friendly
VIP
****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 617


« Reply #162 on: May 18, 2009, 10:09:31 AM »

The figures aren't that accurate... The count for one of the "Use Your Illusion" albums is the estimated count from 1997.

Not saying "Chinese Democracy" has sold that much more, just saying a bit more presumably.
Logged
ppbebe
Legend
*****

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Posts: 10203


« Reply #163 on: May 18, 2009, 12:46:39 PM »

16~22 yr olds vs a 6 month old baby
Logged
Dr. Blutarsky
Legend
*****

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 4227



« Reply #164 on: May 18, 2009, 01:05:09 PM »

Think about how many years those albums have been selling vs Chinese Democracy.
Logged

1̶2̶/̶1̶3̶/̶0̶2̶ - T̶a̶m̶p̶a̶,̶ ̶F̶L̶
10/31/06 - Jacksonville, FL
10/28/11 - Orlando, FL
3/3/12 - Orlando, FL
7/29/16 - Orlando, FL
8/8/17 - Miami, FL
burnz007
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 191


Kick'n back in the shadows...


« Reply #165 on: May 18, 2009, 01:14:31 PM »

I'm surprised Live Era hasn't done better than that
Logged
Loaded NightraiN
17.5% Alcohol By Volume
Legend
*****

Karma: -2
Offline Offline

Posts: 3827



« Reply #166 on: May 18, 2009, 02:21:37 PM »

I'm surprised Live Era hasn't done better than that

Live Era has its moments, but its a pretty crappy album overall....
Logged
Voodoochild
Natural Born Miller
Legend
*****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 6305


Mostly impressive


WWW
« Reply #167 on: May 18, 2009, 02:24:05 PM »

Think about how many years those albums have been selling vs Chinese Democracy.
Also, back in 1988 the music market had no problem with piracy. ok
Logged

AtariLegend
Not User Friendly
VIP
****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 617


« Reply #168 on: May 18, 2009, 02:28:03 PM »

I'm surprised Live Era hasn't done better than that

Live Era has its moments, but its a pretty crappy album overall....

It is essentially the closest we're ever going to get to hearing a re-recorded "Appetite For Destruction" or "Use Your Illusion".

"Nightrain", "You Could Be Mine", "Estranged" without crowd noises, could've made it one of the best compilations ever...
Logged
Loaded NightraiN
17.5% Alcohol By Volume
Legend
*****

Karma: -2
Offline Offline

Posts: 3827



« Reply #169 on: May 18, 2009, 10:25:06 PM »


It is essentially the closest we're ever going to get to hearing a re-recorded "Appetite For Destruction" or "Use Your Illusion".

You're exactly right, and thats the problem... It dosent feel like a live album, not to mention half the performances we already had access to...
Logged
Bitch Slap Rappin
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 293



« Reply #170 on: May 19, 2009, 12:54:32 PM »

You know most average people who like music don't even know that Chinese Democracy was released by G&R? About three months after it's release I told at least four friends about the new release and they didn't even know about the new cd. So take that ratio and apply it to mass population of music listeners and the result is that most people don't even know that the cd is out there.  rofl
Logged
HBK
Legend
*****

Karma: 1
Offline Offline

Posts: 4986


" SOLD OUT "


« Reply #171 on: May 19, 2009, 02:22:19 PM »

Appetite For Destruction (1987)  Total Worldwidesales       : 29.800.000
GNR Lies (1988)                          Total Worldwidesales        : 10.100.000
Use Your Illusion 1 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 17.800.000
Use Your Illusion 2 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 18.600.000
The Spaghetti Incident ? (1993)   Total Worldwidesales       : 5.700.000
Live Era '87-'93 (1999)                 Total Worldwidesales        : 2.400.000
Greatest Hits (2004)                    Total Worldwidesales        : 8.800.000
Chinese Democracy (2008)          Total Worldwidesales        : 3.000.000
 
www.worldwidealbums.net






Recording Industry Association of America on February 03, 2009. Chinese Democracy has already sold nearly three million copies.

Today Is, May 20.

HBK *
Logged

● guиs и' яoses ● ● ● ガンズ・アンド・ローゼズ ● ● ● ROBIN IS MAGIC ●

▄█ Pяoکτiτuτe █▄

● H B K ● The Legend Gunner ●
oldgunsfan
Legend
*****

Karma: -4
Offline Offline

Posts: 2264

Here Today...


« Reply #172 on: May 19, 2009, 02:39:49 PM »

Think about how many years those albums have been selling vs Chinese Democracy.

AFD sold 1 million albums a month in the US from the time the video SCOM was release (about mid year, 1988) to the end of the year-

unless CD has a single with a similar impact; I doubt Democracy will have the legs that AFD did, and continues to have Huh
Logged
Wooody
Legend
*****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 2155

Here Today...


« Reply #173 on: May 19, 2009, 03:24:47 PM »

Think about how many years those albums have been selling vs Chinese Democracy.

AFD sold 1 million albums a month in the US from the time the video SCOM was release (about mid year, 1988) to the end of the year-

unless CD has a single with a similar impact; I doubt Democracy will have the legs that AFD did, and continues to have Huh

They blew it with the video and promotion for Better.

Now maybe twat as a single would work. with a great video.
Logged

Just use your head and in the end you'll find your inspiration.
14 Yrs Of Silence
VIP
****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1193

AXL SLASH DUFF = GOAT


« Reply #174 on: May 19, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »

Its not too late for Better as WTTJ was re-released 3 times so they can milk it if they decide to do more aggresive promotion including a tour.  That said, today's environment is much different then 1987 through 1993.  GN'R was built on MTV and without that outlet they really need radio support...that means radio promotions and interviews.  The music is there, but getting a single on rock radio, let alone top 40 is more difficult then ever.  Most rock radio stations play more classic rock then new stuff and top 40, forget about it unless you're Daughtry or Nickelback.  But then there's Green Day.  They've had great sustainability and actually are bigger now then ever.  So it is possible for Guns to get huge again but Axl will need to play nice and the fact of the matter is he may not care to and if he's happy having gotten the album out and eventually touring without other promotion then we as fans need to live with that and respect his decision.  Clearly its not all about money for him. 
Logged

I have something I want to do with Guns N' Roses...That can be a long career or it can be a short explosive career-as long as it gets out in a big way. - Axl Rose 7/6/86
Adler_Sorum_Brain
Rocker
***

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Posts: 413


Look at the lies Slash is leading


« Reply #175 on: June 10, 2009, 06:40:23 AM »

"New" band,  you can now download for free..3,7 million copies sold are (to me ) a great figure.  peace


Logged

As the dust settled, Axl stared unblinkingly at me and, with no hint of irony, summed up GN?R?s philosophy: ?We don?t start anything. But if you mess with us, then we?ll fuck you up!
oldgunsfan
Legend
*****

Karma: -4
Offline Offline

Posts: 2264

Here Today...


« Reply #176 on: June 10, 2009, 08:07:15 PM »

Appetite For Destruction (1987)  Total Worldwidesales       : 29.800.000
GNR Lies (1988)                          Total Worldwidesales        : 10.100.000
Use Your Illusion 1 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 17.800.000
Use Your Illusion 2 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 18.600.000
The Spaghetti Incident ? (1993)   Total Worldwidesales       : 5.700.000
Live Era '87-'93 (1999)                 Total Worldwidesales        : 2.400.000
Greatest Hits (2004)                    Total Worldwidesales        : 8.800.000
Chinese Democracy (2008)          Total Worldwidesales        : 3.000.000
 
www.worldwidealbums.net


whats surprising to me is Greatest hits sold so well and it being released as late as it was.  By those numbers, you woulda thougt Democracy would have done much better.  Maybe the leaks, the streaming, and overall Axl backlash hurt sales rather than lack of promotion.

Logged
Ali
Legend
*****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3601


Waiting for Promised Land....


« Reply #177 on: June 10, 2009, 08:34:02 PM »

Appetite For Destruction (1987)  Total Worldwidesales       : 29.800.000
GNR Lies (1988)                          Total Worldwidesales        : 10.100.000
Use Your Illusion 1 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 17.800.000
Use Your Illusion 2 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 18.600.000
The Spaghetti Incident ? (1993)   Total Worldwidesales       : 5.700.000
Live Era '87-'93 (1999)                 Total Worldwidesales        : 2.400.000
Greatest Hits (2004)                    Total Worldwidesales        : 8.800.000
Chinese Democracy (2008)          Total Worldwidesales        : 3.000.000
 
www.worldwidealbums.net


whats surprising to me is Greatest hits sold so well and it being released as late as it was.  By those numbers, you woulda thougt Democracy would have done much better.  Maybe the leaks, the streaming, and overall Axl backlash hurt sales rather than lack of promotion.



I don't think you can make any comparison between the Greatest Hits album's sales and Chinese Democracy's sales.

Ali
Logged
downzy56
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 438


Here Today...


« Reply #178 on: June 11, 2009, 12:09:07 AM »

Appetite For Destruction (1987)  Total Worldwidesales       : 29.800.000
GNR Lies (1988)                          Total Worldwidesales        : 10.100.000
Use Your Illusion 1 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 17.800.000
Use Your Illusion 2 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 18.600.000
The Spaghetti Incident ? (1993)   Total Worldwidesales       : 5.700.000
Live Era '87-'93 (1999)                 Total Worldwidesales        : 2.400.000
Greatest Hits (2004)                    Total Worldwidesales        : 8.800.000
Chinese Democracy (2008)          Total Worldwidesales        : 3.000.000
 
www.worldwidealbums.net


whats surprising to me is Greatest hits sold so well and it being released as late as it was.  By those numbers, you woulda thougt Democracy would have done much better.  Maybe the leaks, the streaming, and overall Axl backlash hurt sales rather than lack of promotion.



I don't think you can make any comparison between the Greatest Hits album's sales and Chinese Democracy's sales.

Ali

Yeah you can, one has hits, the other, not so much (at least to the general public).

Cheers,

Andrew
Logged

Detroit '02
Toronto '02
London, ON '02
Boston '02
NYC '02
Philadelphia '02
NYC '06
Paris, FR '06
Toronto '06
Ottawa '06
Quebec City '06
Hamilton '10
London '10
Toronto '10
Hamilton '11
Ali
Legend
*****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3601


Waiting for Promised Land....


« Reply #179 on: June 11, 2009, 01:14:42 AM »

Appetite For Destruction (1987)  Total Worldwidesales       : 29.800.000
GNR Lies (1988)                          Total Worldwidesales        : 10.100.000
Use Your Illusion 1 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 17.800.000
Use Your Illusion 2 (1991)           Total Worldwidesales        : 18.600.000
The Spaghetti Incident ? (1993)   Total Worldwidesales       : 5.700.000
Live Era '87-'93 (1999)                 Total Worldwidesales        : 2.400.000
Greatest Hits (2004)                    Total Worldwidesales        : 8.800.000
Chinese Democracy (2008)          Total Worldwidesales        : 3.000.000
 
www.worldwidealbums.net


whats surprising to me is Greatest hits sold so well and it being released as late as it was.  By those numbers, you woulda thougt Democracy would have done much better.  Maybe the leaks, the streaming, and overall Axl backlash hurt sales rather than lack of promotion.



I don't think you can make any comparison between the Greatest Hits album's sales and Chinese Democracy's sales.

Ali

Yeah you can, one has hits, the other, not so much (at least to the general public).

Cheers,

Andrew

Funny, but no.  Not what I meant anyway.

Ali
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.9 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.054 seconds with 18 queries.