Skid Row thread

[mrlee]

aww i wish they would at least get along.

[Rob]

Rumours have been circulating that Dave 'Snake' Sabo had become friendly with SEBASTIAN BACH, and that therefore a SKID ROW reunion was imminent. We contacted Rachel Bolan, who issued the following statement: "That is all false. (Singer) Johnny (Solinger) is going nowhere. He has a project on the side (which I am involved in from a songwriting standpoint) but he is "THE" singer for Skid Row. Actually in 2006 Johnny will have been in the band longer than Baz. Which incidentally Snake has not been in contact with. So let this put the rumors to rest. This is the band. We are finishing up the worldwide deal with SPV as you read this and plan to have the new CD on the shelves soon." By Tim Henderson of Brave Words and Bloody Knuckles Magazine-Canada

What a douche Rachel Bolan is.  Does he actually think people would rather have Johhny Solinger as the singer of Skid Row?  Nobody gives a shit about Skid Row now.  I had a chance to see them last spring.  I chose instead to get really drunk and fall asleep.  If Sebastian Bach was in the band I would have killed to see them.  Then he talks about how Solinger has been in the band for almost as long as Baz was.  What a fag, like anyone gives a shit about that.  Bottom line...when Skid Row were putting out their best (by far) material, who was the singer?  I think we all know the answer to that one.

[Hammy]

Rumours have been circulating that Dave 'Snake' Sabo had become friendly with SEBASTIAN BACH, and that therefore a SKID ROW reunion was imminent. We contacted Rachel Bolan, who issued the following statement: "That is all false. (Singer) Johnny (Solinger) is going nowhere. He has a project on the side (which I am involved in from a songwriting standpoint) but he is "THE" singer for Skid Row. Actually in 2006 Johnny will have been in the band longer than Baz. Which incidentally Snake has not been in contact with. So let this put the rumors to rest. This is the band. We are finishing up the worldwide deal with SPV as you read this and plan to have the new CD on the shelves soon." By Tim Henderson of Brave Words and Bloody Knuckles Magazine-Canada

What a douche Rachel Bolan is.? Does he actually think people would rather have Johhny Solinger as the singer of Skid Row?? Nobody gives a shit about Skid Row now.? I had a chance to see them last spring.? I chose instead to get really drunk and fall asleep.? If Sebastian Bach was in the band I would have killed to see them.? Then he talks about how Solinger has been in the band for almost as long as Baz was.? What a fag, like anyone gives a shit about that.? Bottom line...when Skid Row were putting out their best (by far) material, who was the singer?? I think we all know the answer to that one.

Personally i do give a shit about the new band and i've seen em live and they were damn good, what does bother me is his comment about him having been lead singer for longer because that really isn't relevant he's featured on one album Bach is the dude on Skid Row, Slave To The Grind, B-Sides Ourselves, Subhuman Race, Subhuman Beings On Tour & Forty Seasons - The Best Of.  Musically i am a fan of Bach but he does have a rep as a bit of a prick i am behind the old guys and i am actually looking forward to the new album...

[RichardNixon]

The last Skid Row album was pretty weak. They suck without Bas.

[Rob]

I don't doubt that they're still a good live act.  Snake, Bolan, and Hill are all excellent players.  But Snake trying to downplay the impact Bach had on Skid Row is totally not cool.  IMO, they never would've had the success they had without him.

[Hammy]

I don't doubt that they're still a good live act.

Well...here are they're upcoming live dates

November 4 - Akron, OH - Tangiers 5 - Baltimore, MD - 1st Marnier Arena At Peir 6 26 - Sayreville, NJ - Starland Ballroom. December 2 - Ellsworth, ME - Crossroads 3 - Fredericton, NB Canada - Aditken Centre 4 - Bedford, NH - Marks Place 9 - Evansvilloe, IN - Royce Gracie's Fightfest Roberts Stadium. February 2006 18 - Walker, MN - Northern Lights Casino.

[mrlee]

I wanted to see them except the place was only for over 18s sadly. Gotta wait anther year or 2 for them to come back around in UK.

[Hammy]

I wanted to see them except the place was only for over 18s sadly. Gotta wait anther year or 2 for them to come back around in UK.

Unlucky, well it's worth the wait dude, trust me they are an awesome live act, have patience

[Mama Kin]

Yeah, awesome live act. Saw them about a year and a half ago. They fuckin' rocked. Amazing. Did all their good shit. Sure, Sollinger is no Baz, but he definatley is not a disappointment.

[spacebrain5000]

i didn't read the entire thread, but these are my thoughts on the subject..
personally, i don't think anyone would have given much of a shit about skid row without bas. the music was good, but he elevated the material so fucking much, he is one of the greatest fucking metal singers ever, and his persona, and his whole package, would anyone have cared if it was some other dude? i dunno, man...
and rachel bolan, fuck man, he organized their best of, and heavily biased the included material to the point where he didn't even include some of the best stuff they've ever done solely because it was written by bas. (wasted time)
it's depressing because well, what's skid row doing now? (opening for poison) and what bach doing now? (on gilmore girls..) but i mean supposedly bach put together a new band and hopefully they'll kick all sorts of ass.
i love bas, seriously, i think he's the fucking greatest. and probably the most impressive singer i've ever heard range-wise, and he can just do fucking anything!

[Hammy]

i didn't read the entire thread, but these are my thoughts on the subject..
personally, i don't think anyone would have given much of a shit about skid row without bas. the music was good, but he elevated the material so fucking much, he is one of the greatest fucking metal singers ever, and his persona, and his whole package, would anyone have cared if it was some other dude? i dunno, man...
and rachel bolan, fuck man, he organized their best of, and heavily biased the included material to the point where he didn't even include some of the best stuff they've ever done solely because it was written by bas. (wasted time)
it's depressing because well, what's skid row doing now? (opening for poison) and what bach doing now? (on gilmore girls..) but i mean supposedly bach put together a new band and hopefully they'll kick all sorts of ass.
i love bas, seriously, i think he's the fucking greatest. and probably the most impressive singer i've ever heard range-wise, and he can just do fucking anything!

Skid Row are not as big as they were but i still like there stuff and they don't JUST open for other bands and opening for Poison is NOT a bad thing.

Sebastian Bach did vocals on the Frameshift release An Absence of Empathy and it rules! The track Blaze is amazing! He is also touring with his new band while recording the album so the way i see it is even though the Baz having left sucks we do get 2 decent bands out of it..... (Every cloud....)

I agree with you on the Greatest Hits, Wasted Time is quite simply amazing and leaving it off was stupid and could only of been done because of bitterness between Bolan and Bach, no responsible person could think that song was not worthy of that album...

Edit: Despite his great vocals abilities the 2 primary songwriters in the band were and still are Rachel Bolan & Snake

[spacebrain5000]

ah yeah, i ordered frameshift 2 from ebay a couple days ago! i'm really excited about that! good to hear that it's great stuff!
it's really fucking sad because, okay, i'm only 16, and i've gotten into skid row in the last like two months or so, and the only fucking cds of their even available in a mainstream cd retailer is their debut and at one place, 40 seasons. at another place they didn't have skid anything.
i had to get slave to the grind on ebay. such fucking amazing stuff, and not even sold in a cd store anymore. god damn, man...

and i believe rachel's said that 'wasted time' was the biggest piece of shit they've ever recorded. rachel is either a fucking loon or must be reallllly bitter, because if not the best song they've ever recorded, it's one of them. for me it's tied with a couple of their other songs as their best.

how did they even break up as a band?? for awhile, all the information i could find floating around was that skid row 'dismissed' bach because of his ego, or somethin', but  i read a bach interview in which he said that after rachel and whoever showed him what the material they had so far, he was like, (not word for word obviously) man, this stuff is a pile of shit. so they fired him? is that how it went?

[Hammy]

From what i know (I'm 19 going on 20...) they split because of differences, mainly with Bach.? So when they reformed in 2000 they got back together without him.? People always have differences, many say Bach has a massive ego, who knows, i'll do a bit of digging around tomorrow see what i can come up with dude.

I know how hard it is to get their CDs Ebay is definately the BEST place, cheaper and has many you won't find in the shops, so have you heard the new album?

What i find with most bands is to ignore the differences people have and let it be about the music.? If you get the chance seeing the new band and/or Bach live it is well worth it.? Not everything will ever comes out it's best just to enjoy the music.? I remember somebody told me how i should not be a M?tley Cr?e fan if i was a Guns N' Roses (because of the VMA incident with Axl/Vince/Izzy...) but i just said i did not give a fuck.? Like i said it's about the music, bands break up just like friends fall out, i'm not one to take sides, just be happy Bach is gearing up to release a kick ass CD (and has just lent his vocals to one which i'm happy to hear you're buying....) and whether he is a dick or not Bolan is still recording decent stuff and touring with Skid Row.


Edit: Here is part of an interview from 2003:

After seven years which have seen Johnny Solinger replace frontman Sebastian Bach and Phil Varone replace Rob Affuso on drums, Skid Row are back in Europe supporting Def Leppard on tour and promoting their new album "Thickskin". I caught up with possibly THE nicest rock star in the world, Snake, backstage at their concert in Berlin.

It?s been 7 years since Skid Row were last on tour in Europe - what?s taken you so long?!

Oh my Lord - have you got an hour?! A number of things; when we got finished doing the Subhuman Race tour, the relationships between the band members, in particular between Sebastian (Bach, former singer) and myself were just so strained. It was a cancerous situation and it sort of took the wind out of everybody. When you?re having infighting over the colours on a T-shirt then it?s gone beyond normal human behaviour. And that was an everyday occurrence - you didn?t know what argument was going to happen but there was definitely going to be one

With Sebastian?

Yeah. I often attributed it to the fact that when one person?s ego becomes larger than the band, it?s really time to rethink why you?re really doing this.

Is that the reason Skid Row split up?

It hit the point where our happiness became null and void - everyday you wake up you just wish you were somewhere else, away from it. Yet we were trying to maintain this thing that we knew and loved. And the reason we loved it so much is because it?s so hard to get to these points in your career. But then success starts going downhill a little bit and you have to start being a realist. It never really affected me to be honest - popularity, lack of popularity - it didn?t really bother me cause I always looked at everything that came our way as a gift and a blessing. I?ve always been humbled by the fact that people want to hear our music and I never felt that success was a birthright, I felt that it was a gift from above. So, with my frame of mind like that and the dissention amongst the band members - Scotti, Rachel and Rob over here, Sebastian over there and myself in the middle trying to keep everyone together, it just got to the point where I couldn?t do it anymore. I didn?t want to do it anymore. So we decided to go our separate ways and in 1996/97 it really became official At Christmas time 1996/97 I made a phone call to Sebastian after getting this wicked, wicked phone message and I was like, I?m done, I?ll never play guitar with you in a band ever again. My happiness is paramount and I?ll take happiness over any amount of money.

Did you ever consider reforming Skid Row with the original line-up?

We were offered tons and tons of money to get the original band back together but I knew, and Scotti and Rachel knew, that we couldn?t do it. It would be disingenuous; it?d be strictly for the money. And that?s all well and good but you have to have some sort of happiness while you?re doing it.

When did you get Skid Row back together?

In late ?99 after the three of us had gone out and done different side projects we sort of rebuilt our friendship with one another and realised that we were really really proud of what we had created - the songs that we had created so we wanted to try and do that again. So we basically decided that we wanted to do this again because we love the company that we have, Rachel, Scotti and myself - we?re best friends. And the writing relationship that Rachel and I always had was really strong

You and Rachel wrote all the songs?

Yeah. And we lost that along the way because of the dissention in the band. It really stifled our creativity. Writing songs became work - it was never work before. And I?m not putting blame on anybody - I?m just saying it was a situation that occurred.

We knew this was going to be like starting over and we knew that we could do it because the guys in the band now (Johnny Solinger - vocals, Phil Varone - drums) are such brilliant individuals.

To read the rest click on this link; http://homepage.sunrise.ch/homepage/neverlan/interviewsskidrow

[spacebrain5000]

ah yeah, thank you, that was an interesting read. and i mean, and no matter what, even if he is a loon, (i'm not really one to say) rachel's an extremely good songwriter. and snake too obviously. although if it was really all about the music i think they would have included 'wasted time' on fourty seasons, but whatever.
anyway, well, here's what i'd found on the subject of their disintegration as told by sebastian: http://www.sebastianbach.com/archives/goodtimes2.jpg

[Hammy]

ah yeah, thank you, that was an interesting read. and i mean, and no matter what, even if he is a loon, (i'm not really one to say) rachel's an extremely good songwriter. and snake too obviously. although if it was really all about the music i think they would have included 'wasted time' on fourty seasons, but whatever.
anyway, well, here's what i'd found on the subject of their disintegration as told by sebastian: http://www.sebastianbach.com/archives/goodtimes2.jpg

Thanks for that, i take insults of each others music with a pinch of salt though, loads of ex-members of bands do like Adler saying Chinese Democracy is shit and the dude ain't even heard it.  In all honesty it's better than what Bach has come up with, although that's not much.  Frameshift is better but he just did vocals not writing so that does not count what i mean is the new songs on his live album Bring 'Em Bach Alive in 1999 in all honesty they were very medicore, good thing he has a new line-up now...

[spacebrain5000]

yeah, that is true. i'm really hoping that his new band will be shit-kickin good. his voice is fucking like... mythical it's such an incredible gift. he needs a pretty god damn good band with awesome songs to apply it to. the concept of him wasting his voice on shitty material is just, awful, man...
he said that their new album would be out next summer, which i'm really looking forward to! although they've played a couple shows already haven't they?
...are they any good, do you know?

[Hammy]

yeah, that is true. i'm really hoping that his new band will be shit-kickin good. his voice is fucking like... mythical it's such an incredible gift. he needs a pretty god damn good band with awesome songs to apply it to. the concept of him wasting his voice on shitty material is just, awful, man...
he said that their new album would be out next summer, which i'm really looking forward to! although they've played a couple shows already haven't they?
...are they any good, do you know?

They have played a fair few shows, due to spending my money on weed when they came to the UK i missed 'em so i can't really comment.  Fact is his voice is outstanding one of the absolute best the range his has is simply amazing and the fact that he still has it is awesome to, the big minus point is his song writing is not that good at all i hope and pray that his new line-up contains talented song writers because he cannot write music that can do justice to his voice...

[spacebrain5000]

yeah. i agree. it's funny actually hearing sebastian talking about skid row writing songs.. he was like (paraphrasing) 'they always took so long with everything. i mean, how long does it take to put an e chord and a g chord together?'
didn't he write wasted time? or maybe just cowrote... i dunno.
i wonder what kind of range he has? bigger than axl's, and axl's we estimated was like, what, three octaves, or something? sebastian's is truly amazing. he practices italian opera scales before shows for bloody sake! that's insane. sebastian is truly an amazing package- amazing range, rock n roll to the core, even his looks, he really lucked out in that gene pool man... 

[Hammy]

didn't he write wasted time? or maybe just cowrote... i dunno. 

It was Bach/Bolan/Snake...

He is a lucky cunt...only thing i think he failed on was song-writing, he may pluck out the odd diamond like this but generally, and i mean on his own (or with less talented guys...) the dudes struggling...

[spacebrain5000]

okay, ressurrecting this thread to say- so, skid row is awesome, and i've pretty much bought all their stuff (ebay is a beautiful thing) including, recently, Thickskin, the Bach-less release of not that long ago, and their DVD.
I mean, it's cool and all, I guess, it's alright. I like a few songs. Nothing like the old skid row though, besides Bach, it seems like something's missing just in the songwriting.... anyway, even their singer is a really good singer. And I was fine with it, you know whatever, they write new songs, new singer sings them, great, call themselves Skid Row, whatever, sounds familiar. It was fine until Johnny (their new singer) started singing Piece of Me, and I just couldn't deal with it, in a lot of ways Sebastian made those fucking songs...... it just seemed so.. wrong..
It makes me kind of sad though. Rachel Bolan nowadays, no long hair and nose chain (damn he looked cool) now he kind of looks like a mall punk... and they're trying to churn out modern sounding radio friendly rock n' roll, conforming to modern day aesthestics... it doesn't sound like Skid row, when I hear it, I don't think of Skid Row. It sounds like The Goo Goo Dolls mixed with like Creed or some shit. Something is just not right.
It's not really that bad though. I love all the real skid row CDs. And their sound dramatically evolved with every release, I think they had a good (if short lived) career, a full career. They didn't just churn out the same shit because it sold well. None of their original material CDs sound remotely alike. And each is fantastic.
That said, I really like the song Born a Beggar.