Talk about a sick case - I hope they give her the DP

[The Dog]

^^^I think dropping the bomb on Hiroshima solved a lot if you ask me.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

^^^I think dropping the bomb on Hiroshima solved a lot if you ask me.

one, you know, things like that makes me want to wish that a bomb drops on your town and burn all your family and friends.

that was one disgusting thing to say.
sometime i even wish god exist so all you fucked up americans and international warmongers can burn in hell.

[Guns N RockMusic]

^^^I think dropping the bomb on Hiroshima solved a lot if you ask me.

one, you know, things like that makes me want to wish that a bomb drops on your town and burn all your family and friends.

that was one disgusting thing to say.
sometime i even wish god exist so all you fucked up americans and international warmongers can burn in hell.

Real nice WAT-Ever.  You really have no understanding of war and tactics.  War has solved plenty fo problems, let's say allowing you to speak French instead of German.  No one should pray for war, but to say it has never solved anything at the macro level is just loony.

[The Dog]

^^^I think dropping the bomb on Hiroshima solved a lot if you ask me.

one, you know, things like that makes me want to wish that a bomb drops on your town and burn all your family and friends.

that was one disgusting thing to say.
sometime i even wish god exist so all you fucked up americans and international warmongers can burn in hell.

you're a real asshole dude - calm the F down.  I'm sorry if you want the world to hold hands and sing love songs all day and night but thats not reality.  The fact of the matter is dropping the bomb on Japan in WW2 ended the war, which saved hundreds of thousands of lives (on both sides) and it did solve the conflict.

was it a nice and neat solution, no, the bomb is terrible, but in the end it justified the means.  In that case, violence solved something.

and if it wasn't for us "warmongering americans" you'd be speaking German right now.  Dipshit.

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^^^I think dropping the bomb on Hiroshima solved a lot if you ask me.

one, you know, things like that makes me want to wish that a bomb drops on your town and burn all your family and friends.

that was one disgusting thing to say.
sometime i even wish god exist so all you fucked up americans and international warmongers can burn in hell.

you're a real asshole dude - calm the F down.  I'm sorry if you want the world to hold hands and sing love songs all day and night but thats not reality.  The fact of the matter is dropping the bomb on Japan in WW2 ended the war, which saved hundreds of thousands of lives (on both sides) and it did solve the conflict.

was it a nice and neat solution, no, the bomb is terrible, but in the end it justified the means.  In that case, violence solved something.

and if it wasn't for us "warmongering americans" you'd be speaking German right now.  Dipshit.

Couple of points;
Dropping "the bomb" (an entirely different kind of bomb, actually) on Nagasaki ended "the war".
"The war" it ended was the ongoing Japan vs America conflict, WW2 was already over for pretty much the rest of the world.
And we'd all be speaking Russian, not German. And the reason that we aren't has more to do with the existance of the Allied alliance than the US itself.

For the record, I don't want to see a bomb drop on your town just because you were revelling in a war crime. I would, however, advise reading up on the subject a little. Perhaps from sources other than your high-school history textbook.   

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I don't see why so many people are so eager to look at alternatives to imprisonment.

Probably because imprisonment has shown not to work.

It works fine. You lock people up, they stay where they are. Very, very rarely does it fail.

I assume you're alluding to some other aspect not working, such as rehabilitation. One thing has nothing to do with the other, imprisonment and rehabilitation are two seperate subjects. To say that the physical structures of imprisonment have any effect on the outcome of rehabilitation efforts is a little short-sighted. I'd probably look at it a little harder and ask why the ideas which drive rehabilitation never seem to work out, instead of blaming the failure on the existence of prisons.

[gilld1]

So you get 10 or less years for molesting a child but if you have child porn you get several times that.  Am I the only one that thinks that makes no sense at all? 

[The Dog]

^^^I think dropping the bomb on Hiroshima solved a lot if you ask me.

one, you know, things like that makes me want to wish that a bomb drops on your town and burn all your family and friends.

that was one disgusting thing to say.
sometime i even wish god exist so all you fucked up americans and international warmongers can burn in hell.

you're a real asshole dude - calm the F down.  I'm sorry if you want the world to hold hands and sing love songs all day and night but thats not reality.  The fact of the matter is dropping the bomb on Japan in WW2 ended the war, which saved hundreds of thousands of lives (on both sides) and it did solve the conflict.

was it a nice and neat solution, no, the bomb is terrible, but in the end it justified the means.  In that case, violence solved something.

and if it wasn't for us "warmongering americans" you'd be speaking German right now.  Dipshit.

Couple of points;
Dropping "the bomb" (an entirely different kind of bomb, actually) on Nagasaki ended "the war".
"The war" it ended was the ongoing Japan vs America conflict, WW2 was already over for pretty much the rest of the world.
And we'd all be speaking Russian, not German. And the reason that we aren't has more to do with the existance of the Allied alliance than the US itself.

For the record, I don't want to see a bomb drop on your town just because you were revelling in a war crime. I would, however, advise reading up on the subject a little. Perhaps from sources other than your high-school history textbook.   

relax dude, i wasn't trying to give wat-ever a history lesson, i think anyone with an ounce of common sense would know what i was referring to by "dropping the bomb" and "ending the war".

and i was far from "revelling" in the bomb being dropped - not quite sure where you made that conclusion (infact I said it was terrible).  the simple point i was trying to make is that violence can and has and does solve things.  Not who ended what war or what language anyone would be talking or banging my chest screaming "america, FUCK YEAH".  I love how some of you always try to make mountains out of mole hills to start other nit picky arguements and go off topic.

And for the record, had the US not landed in Normandy, I think the French would be speaking German.  The Germans would have had a much easier time dealing with Russia if they didn't have to worry about fighting us as well.

[Guns N RockMusic]

Couple of points;
Dropping "the bomb" (an entirely different kind of bomb, actually) on Nagasaki ended "the war".
"The war" it ended was the ongoing Japan vs America conflict, WW2 was already over for pretty much the rest of the world.
And we'd all be speaking Russian, not German. And the reason that we aren't has more to do with the existance of the Allied alliance than the US itself.

For the record, I don't want to see a bomb drop on your town just because you were revelling in a war crime. I would, however, advise reading up on the subject a little. Perhaps from sources other than your high-school history textbook.? ?

I don't know what books you've read, but had it not been for America, England would have fallen (Churchhill said they could only go another month or so) and all of Germany would have been focused on Russia. ?Now I'm well read enough to know that the Americans were no supermen, and won by shear numbers and manufacturing capabilities. ?We couldn't have won the war in Japan without the bomb, plain and simple. ?Had the emperor of Japan not told his people to not-resist, even the bombs woulndn't have mattered. ?Could America have beat Germany on its own, probably not. ?But without America, England wouldn't have been a factor and Russia would have soon followed. ?That can't be said the other way around.

The reality is that Germany took France with out much of a fight.  The French just laid down their weapons.  Every other nation involved fought tooth and nail but for one.

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And for the record, had the US not landed in Normandy, I think the French would be speaking German.  The Germans would have had a much easier time dealing with Russia if they didn't have to worry about fighting us as well.

I really doubt it. By the time that the US got involved Germany had already lost 2/3rds of it's army on the Russian front. If they hadn't had to defend the western front, it's likely that they would have kept sending their soldiers to their death in the east and could well have lost the war even faster. Had the Allied forces not taken western Germany it's unlikely that the Russians would have stopped there, they'd probably have taken all of mainland Europe besides Spain and Portugal. Then again, would Russia have been so quick to march if there wasn't the threat of the US and UK claiming western Europe for themselves? We'll never know. But what we can know is that none of us were in any real danger of speaking German at the end of 1942,  even the Germans, who were pretty lucky to get invaded by nations terrified of Communism. 

[SLCPUNK]

Real nice WAT-Ever.  You really have no understanding of war and tactics.  War has solved plenty fo problems, let's say allowing you to speak French instead of German. 

Will you guys ever stop saying that? It is so dumb. 

If it weren't for the French we'd be singing "God save the Queen" right now.........how 'bout that one?

[SLCPUNK]

I assume you're alluding to some other aspect not working, such as rehabilitation.

You would be correct.

[Guns N RockMusic]

Real nice WAT-Ever. You really have no understanding of war and tactics. War has solved plenty fo problems, let's say allowing you to speak French instead of German.

Will you guys ever stop saying that? It is so dumb.

If it weren't for the French we'd be singing "God save the Queen" right now.........how 'bout that one?

I agree, it's a dumb thing to say, but there's more creedence to it than saying the French helped American with the revolutionary war.  We had already turned the tide and that's when the french came, much like the US did in WWI.  A more valid argument for why the US won the Revolutionary war would be England's lack of interest here and being more oriented in what was going on in India.

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I don't know what books you've read, but had it not been for America, England would have fallen (Churchhill said they could only go another month or so) and all of Germany would have been focused on Russia.

England would have fallen at any time, had Germany actually been able to manage the logistics of mounting an attack across the channel. What saved England was not timing or the US involvement but a thin strip of water sperating them from northern France.

Germany was already focussed on Russia and, besides an early push into the territory, were doing very poorly. Germany was desperate to take the southern Russian oil fields and industrial areas so we can safely assume that they weren't just going to sit tight and watch their resources dry up. The eastern front was the most important theater in the war for the Reich, and it went poorly from, what, day 2? I mean, the historical facts and figures remain, the more resources Germany committed to the eastern front the more resources they lost. To say there was some danger of them winning in that arena, with the perspecive of hindsight, is delusional.


I don't know so much about the US/Japan side of things, if obliterating two civilian cities with the most dangerous technology of the age was the only way to beat Japan,  that doesn't say much for the US military at the time. Or maybe it just speaks volumes for the Japanese. Could go either way.

Quick factiod; not every other nation fought tooth & nail. Austria and the Sudetenland for example. Though it isn't fair to point fingers at the latter. Our bad.

[Neemo]

  what does this shit have to do with some pervert, a sick freak of a woman and her poor kid.

Man what a fucked up world we live in

[Guns N RockMusic]

I don't know what books you've read, but had it not been for America, England would have fallen (Churchhill said they could only go another month or so) and all of Germany would have been focused on Russia.

England would have fallen at any time, had Germany actually been able to manage the logistics of mounting an attack across the channel. What saved England was not timing or the US involvement but a thin strip of water sperating them from northern France.

Germany was already focussed on Russia and, besides an early push into the territory, were doing very poorly. Germany was desperate to take the southern Russian oil fields and industrial areas so we can safely assume that they weren't just going to sit tight and watch their resources dry up. The eastern front was the most important theater in the war for the Reich, and it went poorly from, what, day 2? I mean, the historical facts and figures remain, the more resources Germany committed to the eastern front the more resources they lost. To say there was some danger of them winning in that arena, with the perspecive of hindsight, is delusional.


I don't know so much about the US/Japan side of things, if obliterating two civilian cities with the most dangerous technology of the age was the only way to beat Japan,? that doesn't say much for the US military at the time. Or maybe it just speaks volumes for the Japanese. Could go either way.

Quick factiod; not every other nation fought tooth & nail. Austria and the Sudetenland for example. Though it isn't fair to point fingers at the latter. Our bad.

I don't think Austria or the Sudetenland had much reason to resist Germany.  Hitler himself was Austrian, they were annexed, they weren't invaded. 

With regard to Japan, I think it speaks more of their determination than the quality of the American soldier.  Next to the German soldier, i think the Japanese soldier would be ranked second best in the war, followed by the Russian closely followed by the American.  Actually having your country invaded is great motivation.... well for most countries at least.

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what does this shit have to do with some pervert, a sick freak of a woman and her poor kid.

Man what a fucked up world we live in

It's enirely related! In so much as we ran out of things to say about that, so now we're talking about this. 

[SLCPUNK]

A blame the French for this woman's actions......

[25]

I don't think Austria or the Sudetenland had much reason to resist Germany.  Hitler himself was Austrian, they were annexed, they weren't invaded. 

With regard to Japan, I think it speaks more of their determination than the quality of the American soldier.  Next to the German soldier, i think the Japanese soldier would be ranked second best in the war, followed by the Russian closely followed by the American.  Actually having your country invaded is great motivation.... well for most countries at least.

I think both territories had every reason to resist, Austria didn't have the means and we gave Germany the Sudetenland because we were pussies. Austria was annexed, by invasion. The Germans literally told the Austrian government that the German army would be marching on their capital and that they could either concede power to Hitler or fight for it. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't put that on my top ten list of mutually beneficial and diplomatically successfull annexations.

I don't understand why the US had such a hard time with the Japanese though. Were they just unable to land a ground force, did the Japanses just fight too hard? Better weapons? Logistics? It's always logistics.

[Neemo]

what does this shit have to do with some pervert, a sick freak of a woman and her poor kid.

Man what a fucked up world we live in

It's enirely related! In so much as we ran out of things to say about that, so now we're talking about this.?

haha ok in that case...wasn't germany's downfall the fact that their army was spread so thin?