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How would doing the 4 shows in Jan set the band back with the album?
In that ?Axl? letter it said they have to have the album in EIGHT WEEKS before the release date to make the target date. If that is true that means CD has to be into the label by Jan 6th to make the march 6th release date, well those cancelled shows in Jan fall AFTER that target date and wouldn?t affect them getting the album done would it? So it makes no sense they cant do those shows because the album would already be finished and into the label by the time they happened.
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Re: question about the cancelled dates in jan
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:12:25 PM
How would doing the 4 shows in Jan set the band back with the album?
In that ?Axl? letter it said they have to have the album in EIGHT WEEKS before the release date to make the target date. If that is true that means CD has to be into the label by Jan 6th to make the march 6th release date, well those cancelled shows in Jan fall AFTER that target date and wouldn?t affect them getting the album done would it? So it makes no sense they cant do those shows because the album would already be finished and into the label by the time they happened.
"approximately 8 weeks "
So i guess that these days are very importent if they are gonna make it to the mars 6:th.
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Re: question about the cancelled dates in jan
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:12:25 PM
How would doing the 4 shows in Jan set the band back with the album?
In that ?Axl? letter it said they have to have the album in EIGHT WEEKS before the release date to make the target date. If that is true that means CD has to be into the label by Jan 6th to make the march 6th release date, well those cancelled shows in Jan fall AFTER that target date and wouldn?t affect them getting the album done would it? So it makes no sense they cant do those shows because the album would already be finished and into the label by the time they happened.
when axl hands the record to the record company, the negotiations will start. merck states in his later, that axl has to deliver, before any further actions will be taken...
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Quote from: nothingman on December 17, 2006, 05:17:27 PM
a video?
A video could be done in a week or even a day and any time in feb to meet the march release date
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Re: question about the cancelled dates in jan
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:20:43 PM
Quote from: nothingman on December 17, 2006, 05:17:27 PM
a video
A video could be done in a week or even a day and any time in feb to meet the march release date
that REALLY depends on the production of this video. if its a video like NR or Estranged then theres no damn way itd be done and ready to be out as a single in 1 week.
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Quote from: axl2 on December 17, 2006, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:20:43 PM
Quote from: nothingman on December 17, 2006, 05:17:27 PM
a video?
A video could be done in a week or even a day and any time in feb to meet the march release date
that REALLY depends on the production of this video. if its a video like NR or Estranged then theres no damn way itd be done and ready to be out as a single in 1 week.
If the video is going to be better like most people around here think that is the first single then 90% of the video is done because t hey have all the video for teh live shots.
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Do you know what goes on after the album has been handed over to the record company?
I'm curious since you claim there's nothing stopping them from playing the shows.
Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:23:01 PM
If the video is going to be better like most people around here think that is the first single then 90% of the video is done because t hey have all the video for teh live shots.
And who made you the video's director since you're now chosing what footage will be used in the video?
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:12:25 PM
well those cancelled shows in Jan fall AFTER that target date and wouldn?t affect them getting the album done would it?
Yeah, I'm sure there's nothing to do once the album is handed over. Guess they'll all just be kicking back at home in their bathrobes, drinking mint julips and whipping the houseboy.
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who says it will be live shots?!
and live shots are corny. it sucks. leave that for bon jovi. GNR should try to push the envelope.
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Re: question about the cancelled dates in jan
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Quote from: jarmo on December 17, 2006, 05:24:54 PM
Do you know what goes on after the album has been handed over to the record company?
I'm curious since you claim there's nothing stopping them from playing the shows.
Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:23:01 PM
If the video is going to be better like most people around here think that is the first single then 90% of the video is done because t hey have all the video for teh live shots.
And who made you the video's director since you're now chosing what footage will be used in the video?
/jarmo
the legal team takes care most of the stuff that goes on after the album is handed it. The old gnr found a way to play shows after the UYI was ?handed in, or did you forget that? They did not have to stop touring now did it?
As for the videos director. I find it hard to believe the first video is going to be some huge production like a nov rain type video esp since the label is in the hole for 14m on this album. You think they will want to throw 5m in for one video, or just so something simple and cost efficent? Plus the old gnr made videos while they were touring, and that was hundreds of shows, this band just has to do four.
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Promoting the album; interviews, photoshoots, letting annoying interviewers suck up to you, endorsements, shooting videos, meetings, travelling from place to place...
You know, all the things that take little to no time at all.
How do you know how much money the label has spent on this album dave? I didn't know you were GN'R's accountant.
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I guess the band has to find the muse at least for a couple of days before the record is done, right?
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Quote from: AdZ on December 17, 2006, 05:30:04 PM
Promoting the album; interviews, photoshoots, letting annoying interviewers suck up to you, endorsements, shooting videos, meetings, travelling from place to place...
You know, all the things that take little to no time at all.
How do you know how much money the label has spent on this album dave? I didn't know you were GN'R's accountant.
Like I said 4 shows would not get in the way of that. The old gnr with UYI were able to do all of that with a huge world tour. As for the 14m price tag, you know that is how much has been reported dont even try to deny it.
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the video for st anger (metallica) was shot at san qeutin in 2 days max.With the band in LA for a week , anything is possiable , plus using live footage shots
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: AdZ on December 17, 2006, 05:30:04 PM
Promoting the album; interviews, photoshoots, letting annoying interviewers suck up to you, endorsements, shooting videos, meetings, travelling from place to place...
You know, all the things that take little to no time at all.
How do you know how much money the label has spent on this album dave? I didn't know you were GN'R's accountant.
Like I said 4 shows would not get in the way of that. The old gnr with UYI were able to do all of that with a huge world tour. As for the 14m price tag, you know that is how much has been reported dont even try to deny it.
He can cancel all the shows he wants if it means CD will be ready March 6.
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Like I said on ChiDem.com, if the work spills over a week, better to be safe than sorry.
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does anyone know what "negotiations" need to be made between GnR and the record label? are they negotiating money, or how the album will be released or what songs are on the final release? I know nothing about the record biz...does anyone know what these "negotiations" usually entail?
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on December 17, 2006, 05:12:25 PM
How would doing the 4 shows in Jan set the band back with the album?
In that ?Axl? letter it said they have to have the album in EIGHT WEEKS before the release date to make the target date. If that is true that means CD has to be into the label by Jan 6th to make the march 6th release date, well those cancelled shows in Jan fall AFTER that target date and wouldn?t affect them getting the album done would it? So it makes no sense they cant do those shows because the album would already be finished and into the label by the time they happened.
6th March is a tentative date.... they could need one week more in January to work out some details, so they took free that week to be sure... the album could be out March 13th for example
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Why over analyze this point? First the first time ever Axl feels comfortable with a specific release date. Whether we get it Mar. 6 or a month later, its coming very soon. Chill out.
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i agree with dave. something isn't right.
we don't know everything, so if they HAVE to cancel those shows, fine.
but it seems like they are quick to just toss shows out the window, which i think is poor. cancelling shows is a big deal, and i think should be avoided at all costs. ?
the four shows are within one week. so push the tentative date back to march 13, or just say "march". an extra week or two won't hurt as much as feeling fucked if you were planning on going to any of those shows.
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