discussion. socialogical views on....

[mrlee]

ok basically for sociology. i chose to do how the media blames artists for promoting things like voilence etc.

for example

marilyn manson columbine, we all know now its not his fault however the media tried to blame him. Anyways i need to get more things like this

i need 2 good articles in which i can do a sociology essay on. WE have to "assess" n shit like that, also i need to take 2 views, my oppinion, and a sociological view, i chose the hypodermic syringe model theory for this. Basically that is in basic

you inject someone and that comes out of them, so translated to voilence that means "kid watches man shoot someone on TV, he does that when hes older". This isnt my oppinion but i need to use this view for a sociological way to do it.

anyone got any ideas or good links for me? thanks

[babydolls]

interesting one.  First thing I thought when I read this was that Marilyn Manson did do a great interview with the NME back when he was getting all the blame for Colombine.  It was a really good read and delved right into what you're talking about. Try and get a back issue if you can, as that might be helpful.  If you are not UK based, I can try and find a link for you to try and get a back issue of it?

[TAP]

interesting one.  First thing I thought when I read this was that Marilyn Manson did do a great interview with the NME back when he was getting all the blame for Colombine. 

He did a great interview with Rolling Stone also.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Some of the media tried to place blame on Ozzy because a couple of idiot families claimed that his song Suicide Solution caused their teenagers to commit suicide. 

Ozzy used to get picked on a lot by the religious/conservative media in the past.  But that was before MManson and then gangster rap music became dominant. In fact, it's interesting to see how the media picks an artist to be 'the evil one', the one kids should stay away from, etc.

Here's a link to start you off: http://www.av1611.org/rockm.html ..... "rock music comes from Satan!!!!"

[mrlee]

Some of the media tried to place blame on Ozzy because a couple of idiot families claimed that his song Suicide Solution caused their teenagers to commit suicide. 

Ozzy used to get picked on a lot by the religious/conservative media in the past.  But that was before MManson and then gangster rap music became dominant. In fact, it's interesting to see how the media picks an artist to be 'the evil one', the one kids should stay away from, etc.

Here's a link to start you off: http://www.av1611.org/rockm.html ..... "rock music comes from Satan!!!!"

god whoever wrote that article is mad!! they havent even looked at all the lyrics, just certain ones which wouldnt make sense unless you took the rest of the song into consideration!

[Izzy]

Its amazing that people can still claim there is some kind of link

One wonders how they would explain murder 100 years ago - wait, Manson cds were to blame there as well?

Metal attracts people that are emotional vulnerable - its those pre-existing emotional issues that people should be focused on.

And where do they come from? Abysmal schools, family break ups, a society obsessed with materialism and ''goals''

But solving those kind of problems is hard - so lets blame a symptom instead!

With attempts to cure a? disease you treat the cause i.e the bacteria, you dont focus on the symptom i.e the cough

[Danny Top Hat]

I don't have time right now to explain why Izzy is wrong, maybe some other time.

Mrlee - don't make your essay too biased.  Kids being raised on violent messages are definately going to take in those messages, dismissing the issue entirely will get you no marks.

[T_Roxie]

Maybe you could look at violent computer games too - particularly GTA - , there have been a lot of studies into this recently that you could look at.

[mrlee]

Maybe you could look at violent computer games too - particularly GTA - , there have been a lot of studies into this recently that you could look at.

yeah i wanted to find an article on these kids that put a sniper rifle at the side of a motorway and shot passing cars with it saying they were re-enacting gta. however i have no idea what the news was titled as so i cant find it.

[T_Roxie]

Here are some links:
http://uk.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/news.html?sid=6158529

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/news.html?sid=6152276&mode=all

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6162505.html?q=violent%20games

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6147420.html?q=violent%20games

This one shows a different view, maybe worth checking out:
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/2566012.html?q=violent%20games