Bas takes a shot at Slash, Duff, and Weiland and defends the new lineup...

[T_Roxie]

So playing to 25,000 people at the bang your head festival is "playing dives"?? If that's the case what do you call the 5-10000 people vr were playing to on their last north american tour??

So you think comparing a festival to a VR concert is fair?? Why dont you make a more honest comparison: the Bang Your Head festival and Live 8, for example.?

Live 8 is a little different there dude....

It's a festival though, hence his point.   How about 60,000 at download last year?

[Booker Floyd]

Live 8 is a little different there dude....

Less different than the comparison you made, dude. 

[JohnMorrison73]

hmm.. VR doesn't play STP songs so baz can stfu

but new gnr does play a pretty badass jungle!

lol

[chineseblues]

hmm.. VR doesn't play STP songs so baz can stfu

but new gnr does play a pretty badass jungle!

lol

vr does indeed play stp songs, sex type thing and at least 1 other......

[kobys]

I'm just wondering, is Mr. Bach a little disgruntled about being passed over as the lead singer for VR?

[D]

DEN look at the records my friend.


Scott has written so many number? 1 hits I cant even count them on my fingers bro.


CB was an amazing record.

Name one song Bach ever wrote that was any good?

If u check the credits, Sabo and Bolan wrote most of Skid Row's songs.

i didnt know STP had any number 1's?

Modern and Mainstream Rock Charts.


From the boots I've heard of Bach, he doesnt have it like he use to.

Only reason GNR fans wanted Bach was so they could have the best of both worlds. they figure with Bach, Slash and Duff could still do a ton of GNR songs and u would still have Axl and his band doing GNR songs so u would get GNR from both directions.

It pisses people off that Slash and Duff are successful with a new style and a new singer cause in their dilluted minds, they feel that Axl WAS GNR and they try to minimize Slash and duff's contributions which is ridiculous.

[Booker Floyd]

i didnt know STP had any number 1's?

"Plush" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Vasoline" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Interstate Love Song" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Trippin On A Hole In A Paper Heart" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Lady Picture Show" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Big Bang Baby" - #1 Mainstream Rock

Purple - #1 Top 200 Albums

[NicoRourke]

It pisses people off that Slash and Duff are successful with a new style

Why would people be pissed off ?

And I'm sorry but I don't see a new style in VR, considering that there's three ex-gunners in there, and one guy from STP. It's heavily GN'R oriented. No new style at all, just what Slash & Co wrote, with an input from Weiland.

in their dilluted minds, they feel that Axl WAS GNR and they try to minimize Slash and duff's contributions which is ridiculous.

Well Axl isn't GN'R all by himself but he sure is a huge part of it.

I don't mean to diss the ex-members here, but I don't see why someone who talks good about Axl (Baz) gets shit from people. he just said Weiland can't sing WTTJ. Well, he can't.

And even he's been playing It's So Easy, he isn't doing it quite good. The man is no Axl.

[Axl&Baz07]

Axl may not be GN'R all by himself, but without his unique vocals, the magic is gone.? Weiland proves that everytime he opens his mouth and sings with VR.?

Hearing Weiland trying to sing any GN'R song, hurts my ears, and makes me twitch a little.

Baz is right.?

[SADIS]

I'm just wondering, is Mr. Bach a little disgruntled about being passed over as the lead singer for VR?

A little? A lot I think. His comment is just plain stupid and way misplaced. But I think he's just trying to secure his income.....sort of like a prostitute, he'll do anything for money.

I mean, he's on the Gillmore Girls. Anyone who plays in a show like that loses any kind of credibility.

[DeN]

I'm just wondering, is Mr. Bach a little disgruntled about being passed over as the lead singer for VR?

i'm sure he doesn't care since he tours with GNR.
he can't have a better publicity for his own album.

and if Axl sing a song on it, maybe it sells more than Libertad 

[jarmo]

DEN look at the records my friend.


Scott has written so many number  1 hits I cant even count them on my fingers bro.


CB was an amazing record.

Name one song Bach ever wrote that was any good?

If u check the credits, Sabo and Bolan wrote most of Skid Row's songs.

i didnt know STP had any number 1's?

American rock fans don't seem to realize that STP never was that huge in Europe. They had a few hits during the Core era, as far as I remember, but after that it was kinda silent.

Kinda like that English band, Bush, who were huge in America and pretty unknown in Europe....


I guess European rock fans were more into the British bands  (such as Blur, Oasis), when STP were at its peak in USA (mid-90s).



/jarmo

[Grouse]

American rock fans don't seem to realize that STP never was that huge in Europe. They had a few hits during the Core era, as far as I remember, but after that it was kinda silent.

Kinda like that English band, Bush, who were huge in America and pretty unknown in Europe....


I guess European rock fans were more into the British bands? (such as Blur, Oasis), when STP were at its peak in USA (mid-90s).



/jarmo

To be honest I had never even heard of Stone temple pilots before scott joined VR, I heard the name scott weiland before but had no idea that he was the singer for a band called stp?

[ARC]

"Plush" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Vasoline" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Interstate Love Song" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Trippin On A Hole In A Paper Heart" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Lady Picture Show" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Big Bang Baby" - #1 Mainstream Rock

I haven't heard of any of these songs. Proves Jarmo's above point I think, with me being English.

To quote my opinion - Scott Weiland is average. Sure, the guy can sing and all but - hey- so can a thousand others. This man has no "x" factor. He cannot hold a candle to Axl Rose.

I agree with what Bach said. In fact, I'd rather see Axl and Seven Dwarves play live instead of VR.

Cheers.?

[Booker Floyd]

I haven't heard of any of these songs. Proves Jarmo's above point I think, with me being English.

Maybe so, but like GNR, theyre an American band and America is the most important market.  They were easily one of the most successful bands of the 90s and they still get heavy airplay with virtually all their singles.

[mrlee]

DEN look at the records my friend.


Scott has written so many number  1 hits I cant even count them on my fingers bro.


CB was an amazing record.

Name one song Bach ever wrote that was any good?

If u check the credits, Sabo and Bolan wrote most of Skid Row's songs.

i didnt know STP had any number 1's?

American rock fans don't seem to realize that STP never was that huge in Europe. They had a few hits during the Core era, as far as I remember, but after that it was kinda silent.

Kinda like that English band, Bush, who were huge in America and pretty unknown in Europe....


I guess European rock fans were more into the British bands  (such as Blur, Oasis), when STP were at its peak in USA (mid-90s).



/jarmo

ahh so thats why americans always seem alot more into them. obviously being english i only thought they were really big on core.

[Mikkamakka]

"Plush" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Vasoline" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Interstate Love Song" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Trippin On A Hole In A Paper Heart" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Lady Picture Show" - #1 Mainstream Rock
"Big Bang Baby" - #1 Mainstream Rock

To quote my opinion - Scott Weiland is average. Sure, the guy can sing and all but - hey- so can a thousand others. This man has no "x" factor. He cannot hold a candle to Axl Rose.

Has no X-factor? So a guy who can write good songs on his own without a contribution of others and a guy who performs like Scott doesn't have the X-factor? Don't get me wrong, Axl is my all-time favourite singer, but Scott has that X-factor, too, but he's just not Axl.


Both of them would have problems singin' the other's songs. 

[D]

No one here is trying to say Scott is better than Axl, cause he isnt, no contest in my opinion, Axl is on an entirely different level than SCott

If u say Scott doesnt have the X-Factor, then u have never seen him in concert.

Jarmo is the biggest Axl supporter I know but I think he would have to admit that Scott has the X Factor. Scott isnt nowhere as good as Axl but he is a damn good frontman.

HOWEVER:

Sebastian Bach is no where near SCott Weiland.

Bach can outscream Scott, Give the man a Kiss Comic Book and an Oreo, but Scott is ten times the Artist Bach is.

To say Slash and Duff are playing STp songs is ridiculous.

2 STP, 2 GNR for the hardcore fans and the rest is straight Contraband.

For VR to not play a couple songs from their collective past would be turning their backs on the fans who supported the previous works.

People for some reason think Bach is an amazing singer just cause he can scream... High octave range does not equal a greater singer.

Its the same argument with guitar players.

People have this belief that just cause a guy can sing more octaves that makes them a better singer and that is not true.

Just as people believe if a guy can play faster that makes him a better guitarist which once again is not true.

I prefer Scott Weiland's voice over Sebastian Bach's a million times over.

[jthunders13]

weilland has a different voice than axl, he's close to morrison, but from the live vr and stp stuff i've seen his voice doesnt hold up to the studio versions of his stuff...axl has a range and uses completely different tones and pitches on different songs, scott is more limited...baz is right, but im sure he still holds a grudge against vr for rejecting him and picking scott.

[Bang Bang]

Baz is Axl's back up singer.  Just in case Axl happens.