Cosmo Kramer goes nuts!!!

[fixintodie]

I'd be mad if the fuckin' audience was giggling when I was trying to speak seriously, as well........I'm referring to his Letterman appearance, BTW.

I guess since it's recorded at what, about 5 in the afternoon? Something like that, the news hadn't really reached that many of the people there. Guess they thought it was a 'bit'. Which is pretty fucking stupid.

[LeftToDecay]

Guess they thought it was a 'bit'. Which is pretty fucking stupid.

Why is everyone so sure the whole thing isn't just a hoax? The flip out, the appology, everything.
Come on! He is a  comedian doing standup. And pulls off something outrageous in the middle of his act. Doesn't it sound suspicious at all? Andy Kauffman, anyone?

Guess you have to  be an American to get all hyped up about the usage of the word nigger and other rascist slurs as a part of a random personal attack.
No matter how hard i try to put things in context here, squeeze stuff in the frame of rascism and it's dark history and all that..I Just can't see the big deal here. Never understood why/how rascist insults are off limits and given a "speacial treatment" in a world where you can get away  with motherfucker and uhh Jesus tit-fucking Christ and what not.

[MadmanDan]

I honestly don't give a fuck ! He can be a mass murderer for all i care, he's still a very talented actor, and one of the funniest characters in the history of television.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

Guess they thought it was a 'bit'. Which is pretty fucking stupid.

Why is everyone so sure the whole thing isn't just a hoax? The flip out, the appology, everything.
Come on! He is a  comedian doing standup. And pulls off something outrageous in the middle of his act. Doesn't it sound suspicious at all? Andy Kauffman, anyone?

Guess you have to  be an American to get all hyped up about the usage of the word nigger and other rascist slurs as a part of a random personal attack.
No matter how hard i try to put things in context here, squeeze stuff in the frame of rascism and it's dark history and all that..I Just can't see the big deal here. Never understood why/how rascist insults are off limits and given a "speacial treatment" in a world where you can get away  with motherfucker and uhh Jesus tit-fucking Christ and what not.

i thought about the hoax thing to, cause it sounds too crazy.
but then again. plausible.

i still think it's racist and way out of line, why are we fighting for the right TO CALL PEOPLE NAMES ?
insane.

[Grouse]

I think Seinfeld is the most overrated TV show ever.


I cant believe his behavior.


I can accept his behavior however if he feels this way, I mean fuck it, its his right, but dont come out and apologize.

I hate when people do that.

Sayin u are sorry makes it ok? I dont think so, If u didnt mean it u wouldnt have said it so Dont apologize, just say i got pissed, I wanted to hurt and embarrass those guys, So i said what I said.

But dont try to act contrite.

Good post, I totally agree with ya 

[CheapJon]

I honestly don't give a fuck ! He can be a mass murderer for all i care, he's still a very talented actor, and one of the funniest characters in the history of television.

absolutely, i agree, when it comes to the funniest characters, don't know about the mass murderer but this little thing come on,


yes indeed my avatar rocks

[The Dog]

Guess they thought it was a 'bit'. Which is pretty fucking stupid.

Guess you have to  be an American to get all hyped up about the usage of the word nigger and other rascist slurs as a part of a random personal attack.
No matter how hard i try to put things in context here, squeeze stuff in the frame of rascism and it's dark history and all that..I Just can't see the big deal here. Never understood why/how rascist insults are off limits and given a "speacial treatment" in a world where you can get away  with motherfucker and uhh Jesus tit-fucking Christ and what not.

yeah, its just an american thing    I dare you to go up to a black person in whatever country you live in and scream at them using the N word over and over again and see what happens. 

[The Dog]

I think Seinfeld is the most overrated TV show ever.

No way, its easily one of the funniest shows ever made.  you're only the 2nd person I've ever met in my entire life to say that.  To each their own though.

[Backslash]

I think Seinfeld is the most overrated TV show ever.

I hear people say that, D, and my only conclusion is that they haven't watched enough of the show to appreciate it.

[LeftToDecay]

yeah, its just an american thing    I dare you to go up to a black person in whatever country you live in and scream at them using the N word over and over again and see what happens. 

It's an insult.It would be safe to assume he/she got insulted.
Still, I'm very sure it doesn't have similiar semi-sacred huge shock value in, say, Scandinavia-region or in europe as a whole as it does in U.S.A.
Racism towards black people has very modest, nearly non existant roots in parts of Europe that were backwater-ish and un-international enough up until 1950's-60's, so stuff like using word "nigger" just can't draw from similiar er, "pool" of racism as in U.S. It's just a (rude)insult among others here. Not something you can start a real fuzz about.Which imo is much healthier approach than the "OMG teh N word!!" -way.

In Finland, there was a popular candy named  "neekerin suukko", or "nigger's kiss", available for decades. It took until late 90's til someone figured it is actually very unappropriate to some and had it changed.
(Edit, actually the correct translation would be "kiss of a negro" not "nigger's kiss"Sorry.)

[Bill 213]

Wow, I must say last night's Letterman was very Andy Kaufmann-ish. ?I can understand where people were laughing at it, I even cracked a grin at just the way he was doing it. ?He really came off bad with the "afro-american" thing though. ?When Jerry told the people in the crowd to stop laughing, it's not a joke I was like damn...is this a work or not? ?Michael Richards comes off as a very manic person in the interview, kinda bouncing all over the place. ?I have to say though, if he is pulling off a Kaufmann, he got a dead on ringer for the humor last night, because that kind of humor is hard to pull off and whether he wanted it to or not, he got it.

I can still remember him as the "Smiley Pie, Bow-tie killer" in Problem Child, back before Seinfeld.

[SLCPUNK]

That was not a Tony Clifton, that was a meltdown.

[The Dog]

That was not a Tony Clifton, that was a meltdown.

Agreed - how anyone can think this was a "hoax" is beyond me. 

[Bandita]

That was not a Tony Clifton, that was a meltdown.

Agreed - how anyone can think this was a "hoax" is beyond me.?

Yea, I really don't believe this is a hoax of any kind. 

Here is his Letterman appearance for anyone that hasn't seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dufHYw-W6j4

[pasnow]

The "afro-American" thing was wierd.. For those out of the US, "African-American" is the politically-correct term, especially when making an apology.


I can't imagine it's an Andy Kaufmann thing..    It was too over the top & full of hate. If he didn't say the N-word 12 times, then maybe.... But here in US you can't say that word.

[D]

I hate the double standard in the US though.

Had a black comedian said the same thing to black people in the crowd, it is accepted. but a white person cant say it.  If the word is so offensive maybe black people shouldnt glorify it and feel proud calling each other that.


Also, black comedians make their living ragging on White people in their routine and it is funny.


U let a white guy make some black jokes though and he will be boycotted immediately.

[Backslash]

To me, the worst part wasn't the fact that he used the N word (although, that was pretty vulgar).  The most inappropriate thing was the "50 years ago..." remark.

[Grouse]

yeah, its just an american thing? ? I dare you to go up to a black person in whatever country you live in and scream at them using the N word over and over again and see what happens.?

It's an insult.It would be safe to assume he/she got insulted.
Still, I'm very sure it doesn't have similiar semi-sacred huge shock value in, say, Scandinavia-region or in europe as a whole as it does in U.S.A.
Racism towards black people has very modest, nearly non existant roots in parts of Europe that were backwater-ish and un-international enough up until 1950's-60's, so stuff like using word "nigger" just can't draw from similiar er, "pool" of racism as in U.S. It's just a (rude)insult among others here. Not something you can start a real fuzz about.Which imo is much healthier approach than the "OMG teh N word!!" -way.

In Finland, there was a popular candy named? "neekerin suukko", or "nigger's kiss", available for decades. It took until late 90's til someone figured it is actually very unappropriate to some and had it changed.

Same here in the Netherlands, If I were to walk up to a black person and call him nigger, I doubt he would even care....

Nigger kisses were still being called nigger kisses overhere up untill a few months ago when some wiseguy decided he was offended by the name and sued? I swear the whole culture is becoming more "american" everyday and I? hate that?

oh well at least we still have our jew cookies? ?

[SLCPUNK]

It's interesting to see the crowd laughing about this on Letterman during his apology.


And kind of seemed to ramble a bit.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

yeah, its just an american thing? ? I dare you to go up to a black person in whatever country you live in and scream at them using the N word over and over again and see what happens.?

It's an insult.It would be safe to assume he/she got insulted.
Still, I'm very sure it doesn't have similiar semi-sacred huge shock value in, say, Scandinavia-region or in europe as a whole as it does in U.S.A.
Racism towards black people has very modest, nearly non existant roots in parts of Europe that were backwater-ish and un-international enough up until 1950's-60's, so stuff like using word "nigger" just can't draw from similiar er, "pool" of racism as in U.S. It's just a (rude)insult among others here. Not something you can start a real fuzz about.Which imo is much healthier approach than the "OMG teh N word!!" -way.

In Finland, there was a popular candy named? "neekerin suukko", or "nigger's kiss", available for decades. It took until late 90's til someone figured it is actually very unappropriate to some and had it changed.

Same here in the Netherlands, If I were to walk up to a black person and call him nigger, I doubt he would even care....

Nigger kisses were still being called nigger kisses overhere up untill a few months ago when some wiseguy decided he was offended by the name and sued? I swear the whole culture is becoming more "american" everyday and I? hate that?

oh well at least we still have our jew cookies? ?

we still have a lot of "nigger" references in france. ("n?gre" in french)

we use it for " ghostwriter"
famous chocolate dessert called " nigger's head"

so ....