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Re: Dont Get Upset About Delay This TIme
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November 21, 2006, 12:17:25 PM »
As far as i concerned if the album doesn't get released this year - GNR will be considered the worlds biggest music joke - Vanilla Ice move over.
I really hope for the future of GNR, he releases it this year, especially after Axl promised!
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Re: Dont Get Upset About Delay This TIme
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November 21, 2006, 03:29:10 PM »
Right on, Matt. All Axl is doing now is trying to rake in some cash on a nostalgia tour. I'll buy the album much in the same way that we all stare at a traffic accident. I will never go see them live again, it's too risky. Maybe the delay is due to a change in album title:
Never Ending Disappointment by Guns n Roses
Delayed....Again by Guns n Roses
The Brian Wilson Sessions by Guns n Roses
What 2006 Promise? by Guns n Roses
Pipe Dreams by Guns n Roses
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Re: Dont Get Upset About Delay This TIme
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November 21, 2006, 03:39:25 PM »
this delay represents the first time this situation happens in the world music history!
specially for me, waiting this since 96 and now i'm 29!
I hope this bastard, at least explain what are the causes for that! and hope this year...
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Re: Dont Get Upset About Delay This TIme
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Quote from: Mattgnr on November 21, 2006, 12:17:25 PM
As far as i concerned if the album doesn't get released this year - GNR will be considered the worlds biggest music joke - Vanilla Ice move over.
I really hope for the future of GNR, he releases it this year, especially after Axl promised!
As a huge fan, I won't be "bitter" if the CD isnt released. My thoughts stem from embarassment and incompetency from Axl and his band.
The problem is, the majority of the material on this CD is anywhere from 4-7 years old. The band has toured in promotion of this CD in 2002 and again in 2006. This can't go on forever. The material will be so dated, that it won't matter how great the songs may be. It should have been released 4 years ago, and if not then, then certainly right now.
The name GnR will continue to lose credibility in too many peoples eyes.
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November 21, 2006, 05:24:53 PM »
This is the first time we've been told explicitely, both by Axl and management, that the album will be out in this year. Before it was always cryptic. Now we've actually heard Axl say "It will be out this year" and Merck has said "It will be out this year". So if it's not, I will be disappointed
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Quote from: ShotgunBlues1978 on November 21, 2006, 05:24:53 PM
This is the first time we've been told explicitely, both by Axl and management, that the album will be out in this year. Before it was always cryptic. Now we've actually heard Axl say "It will be out this year" and Merck has said "It will be out this year". So if it's not, I will be disappointed
That's exactly what I mean. It's not about people saying "they didn't promise us anything" or "they weren't obligated to release it" or "they never said anything definite" or whatever; in the past it's always been "maybe next summer" or "possibly this fall" or "we will announce a release date in the coming months..". They've never said "definitely this year, fall or late fall" or "there are x tuesdays left in the year, the album will come out on one of them".
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November 21, 2006, 05:32:06 PM »
There's only one thing to say about the whole thing -
BAH!
It's getting ridicelus now. Like children playing hide and seek.
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November 21, 2006, 05:51:45 PM »
Sure is alot of upset and fed up people around here.
So I was at the record store today. What do you know, no CD?!?!?
There was more activity in the store than I had seen in a long time. Another oppurtunity missed.
Another Tuesday gone.
Still no sign of a single.
Faith fading.........
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November 21, 2006, 05:56:31 PM »
No HD Better ad, no CD, no single, half price tickets, and most importantly NOT A SINGLE WORD FROM THE BAND to us as to what the fuck is going on after all the promises and waiting. Unless they release a statement really soon telling us what is going on and anouncing a release date, even if it's in 2007, then they really fucked up and lost most of the fans that they had left. I know many people who will rather download the CD when it finally comes out because they have been fans for over a decade and the band has treated them like shit by refusing to tell the truth about anything.
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Quote from: muffinass on November 21, 2006, 10:15:31 AM
Quote from: riotact_vancity on November 17, 2006, 03:27:41 PM
1/100,000,000th?
the lunatically loyal are the only reason HE even still has a chance at a career. In the US, with zero promotion, you think it's casual people going to the concerts?
? Yes, yes I do. and from what i've read for the past tour, i'm sure that's a fact. How many people did you guys hear singing along and
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the new songs? In toronto, i'd say maybe 5% of the crowd (hell it probably was just a handful)...
?
? Stop it with this "we made you Axl!!" attitude... It's not the HARDCORE fans that bought the majority of the tickets for the concerts...
? So yes...DON'T get upset about delay times (at least don't take it personallY), because you're not owed anything...I'm as anxious as any of you here, but to claim that Axl NEEDS to do this/that...it's absurd...it's become more of a gossip-column for stay-at-home wives...
? I'm not agreeing with the situtation...i think it's complete shite...the band could've been more damn open when it comes to releasing dates, etc, and at least placate us for a while, but stop whining like your parents didn't get you the toy you wanted for christmas...it's funny how when they cancelled the Portland show, they were quick to issue a press statement, but now that all the negativity in th epress, etc is coming out...nothing. Although, the album coming out WITH all this press behind it will probably create much more of an impact.
when he's using the promise of the new album, for the second time, to sell concert tickets, and the album isn't going to come out, at the very least during the concert cycle, then he does owe us something.
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"Once there was this rock and roll band rollin' on the streets, time went by and it became a joke..."
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I think his voice gets better and better, seems like the more practice he gets the better he sounds, I wonder if the recordings sound as good as Axl's sounding now, I think he had big voice problems the last few years, that may have something to do with all this, I think he and the band are as good as ever, definetly better than anything out now.
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Quote from: Z on November 21, 2006, 05:51:45 PM
So I was at the record store today.? What do you know, no CD?!?!?
There was more activity in the store than I had seen in a long time.
It's unlikely that all the activity you witnessed were hardcore GNR fans hoping that this was one of those Tuesdays.
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Quote from: jguns on November 21, 2006, 07:20:13 PM
I think his voice gets better and better, seems like the more practice he gets the better he sounds, I wonder if the recordings sound as good as Axl's sounding now, I think he had big voice problems the last few years, that may have something to do with all this, I think he and the band are as good as ever, definetly better than anything out now.
Yeah I'm thinking he's had voice issues since the very first shows in Vegas in '01 and probably even back when OMG was recorded. No telling why until he comes out and talks about it (yeah right!). But his voice in the Better commercial sound awesome and sometimes his "smooth" voice sounds cool as I'm sure we'll all hear on "Sorry" which is one of the tracks I'm most excited to hear on CD. But I'm sure he's gone back and re-recorded vocals with his good ol' chainsaw throat now that its back.
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this maybe the most sensible reason....the band is tighter and Axl sounds better than ever before. I've always have felt that they've needed to tour to become solidified as a band. To see hear and feel what works. The studio is not what creates the chemistry but its the road. On the road is where all the bugs are worked out. Going back to do touch ups because theyknow what works and what sound s better....that makes sense.
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Quote from: jmrgnr on November 21, 2006, 07:27:43 PM
The studio is not what creates the chemistry but its the road. On the road is where all the bugs are worked out.
Makes sense when it comes to a band that never reherses all together in the studio.
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November 21, 2006, 07:30:06 PM »
I dont care if the album is not released this year,
and I wont bitch because of that.
if it gets canceled I'd bitch because we were left hanging...
if they plan to rescheudle it, at least they could show some decency to tell us about it, not make us go wacko.
that's why I think the album is coming out this year.
they cant be that cruel to lie to us, and then let us believe in it...
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Re: Dont Get Upset About Delay This TIme
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why dont we all just forget about it. listen to the gnr we've got, the live bootlegs we've got, the spin off stuff, rare tracks etc. and forget about chinese dem, maybe one day it will come, but who cares anymore.
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Quote from: jmrgnr on November 21, 2006, 07:27:43 PM
this maybe the most sensible reason....the band is tighter and Axl sounds better than ever before. I've always have felt that they've needed to tour to become solidified as a band. To see hear and feel what works. The studio is not what creates the chemistry but its the road. On the road is where all the bugs are worked out. Going back to do touch ups because theyknow what works and what sound s better....that makes sense.
Yeah that's all fair enough, it's a very good possibility, but ultimately, why can't they just tell us these things and be honest? I'm sure people will be not only more tolerant but more appreciative if somebody came out and said "look, sorry the album's been delayed, but Axl wants to integrate the musicianship of the current band members into the album and further enhance the quality of the album, we anticipate it will be ready though by xx date, the band is aware of your patience and is very greatful" or something and at least make it sound alot more convincing and definite, and at the same time, a bit sympathetic to the fans who give their money to support the band, and in return I think that would go down alot better with fans. Just like Axl's personal comment regarding that show cancellation. People were rightfully pissed off and frustrated but i know (well hope anyway), that those same fans were taken back that Axl himself took measures to personally apologize to fans, especially fans on this forum
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Quote from: evergreen_layne on November 21, 2006, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: jguns on November 21, 2006, 07:20:13 PM
I think his voice gets better and better, seems like the more practice he gets the better he sounds, I wonder if the recordings sound as good as Axl's sounding now, I think he had big voice problems the last few years, that may have something to do with all this, I think he and the band are as good as ever, definetly better than anything out now.
Yeah I'm thinking he's had voice issues since the very first shows in Vegas in '01 and probably even back when OMG was recorded.? No telling why until he comes out and talks about it (yeah right!).? But his voice in the Better commercial sound awesome and sometimes his "smooth" voice sounds cool as I'm sure we'll all hear on "Sorry" which is one of the tracks I'm most excited to hear on CD.? But I'm sure he's gone back and re-recorded vocals with his good ol' chainsaw throat now that its back.?
I agree, I would rather him take his time with the cd with the voice we love, he sounds great, I went to the WV concert it was flawless for being Live, I would go again.
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