Here Today... Gone To Hell! | Message Board


Guns N Roses
of all the message boards on the internet, this is one...

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 20, 2024, 11:26:41 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
1228477 Posts in 43274 Topics by 9264 Members
Latest Member: EllaGNR
* Home Help Calendar Go to HTGTH Login Register
+  Here Today... Gone To Hell!
|-+  Guns N' Roses
| |-+  Guns N' Roses
| | |-+  Maybe GNR are going for a No Doubt
0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] 2  All Go Down Print
Author Topic: Maybe GNR are going for a No Doubt  (Read 2594 times)
fishyguy
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 222

Here Today...


« on: November 13, 2006, 07:22:38 PM »

Basically the record will be out in stores without any initial promotion allowing all the die hard fans to get it. And then after a few months they'll start to promote it with videos and radio plays etc and get it to the masses. That way it will probably stay in the charts longer and have more longevity.

That sort of what happened with No Doubt. Tragic Kingdom came out and no one really bought it but then eventually the singles got MTV and radio play and started hitting the charts a year later eventually selling like 10 milllion copies.

Logged
Mike McKagan
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 320


I'm a small town white boy...


« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 07:25:28 PM »

I really don't think that can happen in the same way with a "known" band like GN'R.
Logged

VR--Nashville, TN--10/16/04
GNR--Portland, OR--12/11/06
GNR--Rosemont, IL--11/15/11
GNR--Nashville, TN--07/09/16
GNR--Saint Louis, MO--09/09/23 (canceled)
SF--Terre Haute, IN--07/21/2024 (cancele
fixintodie
Guest
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 07:26:13 PM »

That's because at the time Tragic Kingdom came out, No Doubt weren't hugely popular. One single hit and sold well, so they brought out another, and so on. It wasn't some pre-planned strategy, just a good song that got lucky and launched the album and band to the mainstream.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2006, 07:28:33 PM by fixintodie » Logged
ben9785
Guest
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 07:26:36 PM »

Yes, that is indeed another possibility, in a pot full of thoroughly stirred bubbling possibilities
Logged
nesquik
Banned
Headliner
**

Karma: -2
Offline Offline

Posts: 113



« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 07:28:18 PM »

Come on.... the Music Industry has changed in 10 years! There wasn't massive downloading in 1996.
Logged
JimMorrison4
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 233



« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 07:28:45 PM »

Critics hate Guns n Roses. If it doesn't sell well at first, Axl will be dragged through the mud like never before. At the very least, it has to outsell Contraband or you'll see headlines like, "Axl Rose Shooting Blanks Without Original 'Guns.'" (If anyone steals that, I'm suing). Then go on to talk about what a miserable failure the album is.

There's no logical reason (key word being: logical) they would NOT promote Chinese Democracy.
Logged
busngabb
Banned
Rocker
***

Karma: -2
Offline Offline

Posts: 291

Here Today...


« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 07:31:53 PM »

Cool. We get a fit wigger to sing and get rid of that ginger liability. ok
Logged
tristanj13
Headliner
**

Karma: -2
Offline Offline

Posts: 100

Here Today...


« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 07:52:08 PM »

Like No Doubt no one will have heard of the band when the CD drops if they ship it under the different name next monday. So in that way its true. But unlike No Doubt "Blue trees, and Green Grass" will be a funny enecdote and not a big band name after time.
Logged
GNRfan2008
Headliner
**

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 83



« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 07:54:07 PM »

Basically the record will be out in stores without any initial promotion allowing all the die hard fans to get it. And then after a few months they'll start to promote it with videos and radio plays etc and get it to the masses. That way it will probably stay in the charts longer and have more longevity.

That sort of what happened with No Doubt. Tragic Kingdom came out and no one really bought it but then eventually the singles got MTV and radio play and started hitting the charts a year later eventually selling like 10 milllion copies.



Ummm...that sounds like the same strategy used by GN'R back in 1987/1988 with Appetite for Destruction. No Doubt was just as unknown as early GN'R when Tragic Kingdom became popular. It was all just spontaneous luck really.
Logged
lennonisgod
VIP
****

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1388


TWAT


« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2006, 08:15:10 PM »

Critics hate Guns n Roses. If it doesn't sell well at first, Axl will be dragged through the mud like never before. At the very least, it has to outsell Contraband or you'll see headlines like, "Axl Rose Shooting Blanks Without Original 'Guns.'" (If anyone steals that, I'm suing). Then go on to talk about what a miserable failure the album is.

There's no logical reason (key word being: logical) they would NOT promote Chinese Democracy.

It will outsell Contraband based on the name alone.  Contraband only moved 250,000 units in the US during the first week and CD can easily do twice that with promotion and a single. 
Logged

Social class and registers, Cocaine in the hall, All the way from California...
jthunders13
Headliner
**

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 57

Here Today...


« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2006, 08:20:25 PM »

no doubt was an unknown at that point, so not really a good comparison
Logged
GNRfan2008
Headliner
**

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 83



« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2006, 08:27:31 PM »

Critics hate Guns n Roses. If it doesn't sell well at first, Axl will be dragged through the mud like never before. At the very least, it has to outsell Contraband or you'll see headlines like, "Axl Rose Shooting Blanks Without Original 'Guns.'" (If anyone steals that, I'm suing). Then go on to talk about what a miserable failure the album is.

There's no logical reason (key word being: logical) they would NOT promote Chinese Democracy.

It will outsell Contraband based on the name alone.  Contraband only moved 250,000 units in the US during the first week and CD can easily do twice that with promotion and a single. 

Promotion and a single? Don't count your lucky stars man. At this point, we'll be lucky to get the album at all!
Logged
BlueTreeGreenGrass
Opening Act
*

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Posts: 7

Here Today...


« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2006, 08:36:34 PM »

It's not going to happen dude.  no
Logged
lennonisgod
VIP
****

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1388


TWAT


« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2006, 09:06:12 PM »

Critics hate Guns n Roses. If it doesn't sell well at first, Axl will be dragged through the mud like never before. At the very least, it has to outsell Contraband or you'll see headlines like, "Axl Rose Shooting Blanks Without Original 'Guns.'" (If anyone steals that, I'm suing). Then go on to talk about what a miserable failure the album is.

There's no logical reason (key word being: logical) they would NOT promote Chinese Democracy.

It will outsell Contraband based on the name alone.  Contraband only moved 250,000 units in the US during the first week and CD can easily do twice that with promotion and a single. 

Promotion and a single? Don't count your lucky stars man. At this point, we'll be lucky to get the album at all!

I never said IT WAS GOING TO HAVE PROMOTION AND A SINGLE.  I simply said "WITH".  So I'm not counting shit but we are getting the album this year. I'll let you know how it is when I have it.
Logged

Social class and registers, Cocaine in the hall, All the way from California...
lennonisgod
VIP
****

Karma: -1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1388


TWAT


« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2006, 09:09:35 PM »

no doubt was an unknown at that point, so not really a good comparison

It's the same exact thing that happened with Appetite.  I don't think it hit #1 for almost a year after it was released.  But there is no comparison now in that sense.  We've already talked the shit out of this subject when comparing it to what happened with Appetite.  It won't be the same thing at all... not at all.
Logged

Social class and registers, Cocaine in the hall, All the way from California...
insideguns
Guest
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2006, 09:12:01 PM »

release date:
europe 23
usa 28
Logged
EFISH
Guest
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2006, 09:14:05 PM »

release date:
europe 23
usa 28
Pssh. you wish.  Roll Eyes
Logged
JimMorrison4
Rocker
***

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 233



« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2006, 11:30:05 PM »

no doubt was an unknown at that point, so not really a good comparison

It's the same exact thing that happened with Appetite.? I don't think it hit #1 for almost a year after it was released.? But there is no comparison now in that sense.? We've already talked the shit out of this subject when comparing it to what happened with Appetite.? It won't be the same thing at all... not at all.

Never thought I'd say this, but... I agree. After working on this thing for so long, it better not take a year to get recognition.
Logged
D
Deliverance Banjo Player
Legend
*****

Karma: -5
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 22289


I am Back!!!!!!


WWW
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2006, 11:39:36 PM »

I think music these days is too predicated on first single, first video and first week sales.  I wouldnt mind a different release strategy for CD.

That being said,I think it would be way too big of a gamble to not promote it and release a single etc.
Logged

Who Says You Can't Go Home to HTGTH?
oneway23
VIP
****

Karma: 0
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1458


I've asphyxiated waiting...


« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2006, 11:54:06 PM »

I think music these days is too predicated on first single, first video and first week sales.  I wouldnt mind a different release strategy for CD.

That being said,I think it would be way too big of a gamble to not promote it and release a single etc.

It's a gamble that both Universal/Interscope and Axl literally cannot afford.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  All Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.9 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.044 seconds with 19 queries.