CD Suprise Release Date Theory

[stan1ey]

you cant be that naive...
they cant release it without anyone knowing about it.
we'll know, even if jesus christ was helping them, we'd know at least 5 days in advance.
and without supreme help, we'd know 10-15 days, if in fact they do want to keep it secret as long as possible.

OK, I got a theory (just a fun idea, please do not delete). What if the record label listed the album with fictitious artist/album name, but the bar codes were correctly linked to CD. This way, the stores would be blissfully unaware until they cracked open their stock on Tuesday AM, only to discover the listing error on the part of the label. This would get CD into the stores under the cover of deliberate incompetence on the part of the label.

stores order the copies in advance. they need to know what they are ordering, and how many copies they are ordering.
you dont expect the record store to order 100 copies of an album "Yellow Monkey" by "fruitlobster".

I wasn't being entirely serious, but if they were going to use such a technique, then surely they wouldn't need to have 100 copies per store.  A low key, unannounced launch would be enough to generate enough media interest for the big push to follow.   

I'm sure most large suppliers would stock all releases by the larger lables, such as Interscope, even if by an unknown artist.

[Lucky]

I wasn't being entirely serious, but if they were going to use such a technique, then surely they wouldn't need to have 100 copies per store. A low key, unannounced launch would be enough to generate enough media interest for the big push to follow.

I'm sure most large suppliers would stock all releases by the larger lables, such as Interscope, even if by an unknown artist.

I dont think so.
even well known artists such as malmsteen are rarely in greater stocks at record store.
I doubt any record store would order many copies of a band called "swimming bannana" , or "savage animal"

[JimMorrison4]

I wish you people would realise that there is 1000s of stores world wide.
there are 10000s of people involved in getting the cds to the customer.


you cant be that naive...
they cant release it without anyone knowing about it.
we'll know, even if jesus christ was helping them, we'd know at least 5 days in advance(there's always a judas around).
and without supreme help, we'd know 10-15 days, if in fact they do want to keep it secret as long as possible.

there's no presedan on such event.
in 50 years never did something like that happen.


they might not officially anounce it via press release.
but we'll know. officially or unofficially...
we'll know for crying out loud.

when will you people grow up.


please mysterion, merck, axl,... whever!
stop this nonsence.

Exactly. Thank you. I wonder if the people who think Axl and co. are just trying to surprise everyone believe Santa is the one who's going to put their presents under the tree next month.

post of the day ward right there , thanxs for typing what I? have been thinking

Ha.. Thanks.

Exactly. Thank you. I wonder if the people who think Axl and co. are just trying to surprise everyone believe Santa is the one who's going to put their presents under the tree next month.

I also wonder why "people" still post on HTGTH when they talk shit about everyone here on Mygnr?? Some things we'll never know.

What? I talk shit about people from HTGTH on here, too. Namely the people who think Axl Clause is going to deliver millions of copies of Chinese Democracy to all of the record store's stockings in one night to surprise all the children.

[Refused]

Well, he did cure Parkinson's.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

online surprise release.

[Lesty]

stores order the copies in advance. they need to know what they are ordering, and how many copies they are ordering.
you dont expect the record store to order 100 copies of an album "Yellow Monkey" by "fruitlobster".

I wasn't being entirely serious, but if they were going to use such a technique, then surely they wouldn't need to have 100 copies per store.? A low key, unannounced launch would be enough to generate enough media interest for the big push to follow.? ?

I'm sure most large suppliers would stock all releases by the larger lables, such as Interscope, even if by an unknown artist.

Unless it's a mom and pop store, the buying is done by the corporation's music buyers. If you're talking about a store like Best Buy or WalMart, they're buying product for hundreds (in wal marts case, thousands) of stores. The buying team places their order based on radio airplay of the single, planned promotion by the record company, sales history from that artist, and by the quality of the new CD itself (label reps and sometimes band members themselves will make personal trips to these retail headquarters to help sell their product to the buyers).
It's entirely possible that store employees and management may not know it's coming until a couple days prior, but  the music buyers definitely need to know what they're buying. Interscope can't just say "we've got 25,000 units of SOMETHING" and you need to buy it and send it along to all your stores.

[The Legend]

Personally, I would think it would be quite ODD, if GN'R release this thing without some kind of bonus DVD of some sorts. It's becoming quite regular in new album releases to included a bonus DVD with the CD album. Usually there's nothing 'huge' on it, except for possibly a couple music videos and/or live performances, just as a little nugget with the album.

Logic and past experience all but confirm that there will be THREE CD versions of Chinese Democracy released by Universal in the UK - a basic CD, CD+DVD and CD+DVD deluxe set. And then there's the vinyl.

I'm actually thinking we will be given a standard 13-track CD at first. After G&R hit big with a second or third single they will drop the deluxe version with a bonus DVD to lure the people in who dig the singles.

I see at as this, Chinese Democracy the album with no promotion for us die-hards, they want us to promote it amongst ourselves, and G&R will sit back and watch it's biggest fans go crazy for this thing. After G&R have fed us, they will gain new fans by giving them hit singles and a deluxe version of Chinese Democracy. I think that is when the promotion will start. about 6 months after we get the album. G&R know we need no promotion, as they been watching us promote this thing since day one.?

That wouldn't be a smart move to 'promote it for them'.

We can only cover so much ground, and I know just trying to get people to go out to the shows, I met alot of resistance from the 'it isn't GNR without Slash' naysayers.

That proves the point that the casual fan isn't ready, and has no knoweldge of the new stuff. That's why Guns will target those people later on, with the 2-3 hit singles.

But for now.

We know a big marketing campaign that is "different" is in the works. I feel that is us. An online community will be the promotion for us die hards, then when word get's out to the public, some casual fans will rush to see what went down and what they missed.

I think G&R want to prove to the world how much they actually support it's fans

By forcing the fans to give you publicity free of charge, while you rake in the cash?

How's that proving you support the fans?

I think they've got some kind of ace up their sleeve, OR they have no money for promo. I don't think word of mouth is how they are going to sell this thing, seeing how they have alot to live up to it, plus the record company would never sign off on something like this, with this kind of investment.

[ARC]

I cannot believe this record hasn't got a release date yet.

I'm personally about to enter my sixth year of lurking around internet forums waiting for this album. Many people have waited longer. It's ridiculous.

It's DEFINATELY coming this year though...?! Right...?! 

Whatever. I've heard it a million times.

[thelostrose]

i never was really into this "Suprise Release Date Theory", but since Jay Z's new album is already on the internet...at least from this perspective, it would be a clever move.

[Drew]

4. Axl and his gang are always up to crazy things.

What crazy things are Axl and the gang always up to?

I don't remember there being any.

[stan1ey]

I wasn't being entirely serious, but if they were going to use such a technique, then surely they wouldn't need to have 100 copies per store. A low key, unannounced launch would be enough to generate enough media interest for the big push to follow.

I'm sure most large suppliers would stock all releases by the larger lables, such as Interscope, even if by an unknown artist.

I dont think so.
even well known artists such as malmsteen are rarely in greater stocks at record store.
I doubt any record store would order many copies of a band called "swimming bannana" , or "savage animal"

Ha! Looks like I could be in the right ball park! http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=39171.0   

[jc524]

I wasn't being entirely serious, but if they were going to use such a technique, then surely they wouldn't need to have 100 copies per store. A low key, unannounced launch would be enough to generate enough media interest for the big push to follow.

I'm sure most large suppliers would stock all releases by the larger lables, such as Interscope, even if by an unknown artist.

I dont think so.
even well known artists such as malmsteen are rarely in greater stocks at record store.
I doubt any record store would order many copies of a band called "swimming bannana" , or "savage animal"

Ha! Looks like I could be in the right ball park! http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=39171.0   

well, the topic was deleted......

[Refused]

I wasn't being entirely serious, but if they were going to use such a technique, then surely they wouldn't need to have 100 copies per store. A low key, unannounced launch would be enough to generate enough media interest for the big push to follow.

I'm sure most large suppliers would stock all releases by the larger lables, such as Interscope, even if by an unknown artist.

I dont think so.
even well known artists such as malmsteen are rarely in greater stocks at record store.
I doubt any record store would order many copies of a band called "swimming bannana" , or "savage animal"

Ha! Looks like I could be in the right ball park! http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=39171.0? ?

well, the topic was deleted......

The rumour mill is on fire.
They're just trying to put it out.

[Wicked Demon]

The rumour mill is on fire.
They're just trying to put it out.

I wouldn't want to tell anyone how to do their jobs, but I can think of another way to put out a rumor fire... perhaps with a bucket brigade of official album release info

But the cloak & dagger approach IS kind of fun.

[BlueTreeGreenGrass]

Fingers crossed! 

[Nytunz]

So, how reable is this guy?
Take this as it is.. a rumour.. 

[polluxlm]

Said guy would be very reliable

[snooze72]

Said guy would be very reliable

What makes you think that?

[polluxlm]

His history and character.

[insideguns]

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