CD Suprise Release Date Theory

[jimmythegent]

I dont see Mercks comment as at all sarcastic

This is no normal album, so dont expect the norm in terms of marketing strategy

They could double their initial exposure by doing something unusual, and pick up a more conventional approach once strong reviews come in and the second single is hitting the airwaves (ideally a big, ballady mainstream hit).

This could be a sustainable strategy

[dENIS]

I am at best buy and Walmart every Tuesday until 2007 when they open ( Walmart is 24 hours so , that will be kind of odd)

Haha your standing there and they bring out a big box. You ask "what is that stuff?" and they say "a new GNR album" and then you faint.?


GNR4L: Good thinking, I think there will be a press release, official word kind of thing before its out, but nice line of thinking.?

I have a Rhapsody subscription and albums are usually put on there at midnight the day of release. So I'll be looking for it tomorrow night at midnight, as well as next Monday at midnight, and so on...unless of course I really need some sleep (I have work at 8 AM on Tuesday's).

Jay-Z and U2 new album already leaked in the internet. If there any chanse for releasing CD this year or this month i think it will be in the net by now with thousands MF downloaders...

[Risico]

I am at best buy and Walmart every Tuesday until 2007 when they open ( Walmart is 24 hours so , that will be kind of odd)

Haha your standing there and they bring out a big box. You ask "what is that stuff?" and they say "a new GNR album" and then you faint. 


GNR4L: Good thinking, I think there will be a press release, official word kind of thing before its out, but nice line of thinking. 

I have a Rhapsody subscription and albums are usually put on there at midnight the day of release. So I'll be looking for it tomorrow night at midnight, as well as next Monday at midnight, and so on...unless of course I really need some sleep (I have work at 8 AM on Tuesday's).

Jay-Z and U2 new album already leaked in the internet. If there any chanse for releasing CD this year or this month i think it will be in the net by now with thousands MF downloaders...

For all we know, it might already be out there somewhere. One of the VIP's recently alluded to something "big" existing beyond the "usual" places we all know to look...

[TWT]

Here's a theory as to why people need to quickly get over any notions of a surprise release: Santa Claus doesn't deliver CDs to stores on the morning of the (techincally non-)release without any prior notice and tell the store managers to move all the other new releases off the shelves to make space for an album which nobody knows about.

They wouldn't have done it in 1994 for the proper GNR and they won't do it in 2006 for the current model. The only possibility for an official surprise release is going to be via iTunes.

[The Legend]

I am at best buy and Walmart every Tuesday until 2007 when they open ( Walmart is 24 hours so , that will be kind of odd)

Who would buy it at Wal-Mart?!?!?! It will be freakin' edited if you do that.

Personally, I would think it would be quite ODD, if GN'R release this thing without some kind of bonus DVD of some sorts. It's becoming quite regular in new album releases to included a bonus DVD with the CD album. Usually there's nothing 'huge' on it, except for possibly a couple music videos and/or live performances, just as a little nugget with the album.

I wouldn't see a huge problem in doing this for Chinese Democracy.

[TWT]

Personally, I would think it would be quite ODD, if GN'R release this thing without some kind of bonus DVD of some sorts. It's becoming quite regular in new album releases to included a bonus DVD with the CD album. Usually there's nothing 'huge' on it, except for possibly a couple music videos and/or live performances, just as a little nugget with the album.

Logic and past experience all but confirm that there will be THREE CD versions of Chinese Democracy released by Universal in the UK - a basic CD, CD+DVD and CD+DVD deluxe set. And then there's the vinyl.

[Dickeye]

Personally, I would think it would be quite ODD, if GN'R release this thing without some kind of bonus DVD of some sorts. It's becoming quite regular in new album releases to included a bonus DVD with the CD album. Usually there's nothing 'huge' on it, except for possibly a couple music videos and/or live performances, just as a little nugget with the album.

Logic and past experience all but confirm that there will be THREE CD versions of Chinese Democracy released by Universal in the UK - a basic CD, CD+DVD and CD+DVD deluxe set. And then there's the vinyl.

I'm actually thinking we will be given a standard 13-track CD at first. After G&R hit big with a second or third single they will drop the deluxe version with a bonus DVD to lure the people in who dig the singles.

I see at as this, Chinese Democracy the album with no promotion for us die-hards, they want us to promote it amongst ourselves, and G&R will sit back and watch it's biggest fans go crazy for this thing. After G&R have fed us, they will gain new fans by giving them hit singles and a deluxe version of Chinese Democracy. I think that is when the promotion will start. about 6 months after we get the album. G&R know we need no promotion, as they been watching us promote this thing since day one. 

[The Legend]

Personally, I would think it would be quite ODD, if GN'R release this thing without some kind of bonus DVD of some sorts. It's becoming quite regular in new album releases to included a bonus DVD with the CD album. Usually there's nothing 'huge' on it, except for possibly a couple music videos and/or live performances, just as a little nugget with the album.

Logic and past experience all but confirm that there will be THREE CD versions of Chinese Democracy released by Universal in the UK - a basic CD, CD+DVD and CD+DVD deluxe set. And then there's the vinyl.

I'm actually thinking we will be given a standard 13-track CD at first. After G&R hit big with a second or third single they will drop the deluxe version with a bonus DVD to lure the people in who dig the singles.

I see at as this, Chinese Democracy the album with no promotion for us die-hards, they want us to promote it amongst ourselves, and G&R will sit back and watch it's biggest fans go crazy for this thing. After G&R have fed us, they will gain new fans by giving them hit singles and a deluxe version of Chinese Democracy. I think that is when the promotion will start. about 6 months after we get the album. G&R know we need no promotion, as they been watching us promote this thing since day one.?

That wouldn't be a smart move to 'promote it for them'.

We can only cover so much ground, and I know just trying to get people to go out to the shows, I met alot of resistance from the 'it isn't GNR without Slash' naysayers.

[Dickeye]

Personally, I would think it would be quite ODD, if GN'R release this thing without some kind of bonus DVD of some sorts. It's becoming quite regular in new album releases to included a bonus DVD with the CD album. Usually there's nothing 'huge' on it, except for possibly a couple music videos and/or live performances, just as a little nugget with the album.

Logic and past experience all but confirm that there will be THREE CD versions of Chinese Democracy released by Universal in the UK - a basic CD, CD+DVD and CD+DVD deluxe set. And then there's the vinyl.

I'm actually thinking we will be given a standard 13-track CD at first. After G&R hit big with a second or third single they will drop the deluxe version with a bonus DVD to lure the people in who dig the singles.

I see at as this, Chinese Democracy the album with no promotion for us die-hards, they want us to promote it amongst ourselves, and G&R will sit back and watch it's biggest fans go crazy for this thing. After G&R have fed us, they will gain new fans by giving them hit singles and a deluxe version of Chinese Democracy. I think that is when the promotion will start. about 6 months after we get the album. G&R know we need no promotion, as they been watching us promote this thing since day one.?

That wouldn't be a smart move to 'promote it for them'.

We can only cover so much ground, and I know just trying to get people to go out to the shows, I met alot of resistance from the 'it isn't GNR without Slash' naysayers.

That proves the point that the casual fan isn't ready, and has no knoweldge of the new stuff. That's why Guns will target those people later on, with the 2-3 hit singles.

But for now.

We know a big marketing campaign that is "different" is in the works. I feel that is us. An online community will be the promotion for us die hards, then when word get's out to the public, some casual fans will rush to see what went down and what they missed.

I think G&R want to prove to the world how much they actually support it's fans

[nesquik]

No promotion would be a commercial suicide. I'm usually a quite optimistic person, I like to see the glass as half full rather than half empty, but I start to worry now. We are November 13th already... and still nothing, not even a dawn single word about the record. It's frustrating
it's like a long suspense that never ends. Seriously, what happens?

[TWT]

No promotion would be a commercial suicide.

With The Beatles, Oasis, U2 and [*sigh*] Westlife all releasing Christmas cash-ins next week, Chinese Democracy would only make top 5 at best as it is.

I've said it before, but this time of year is all about marketing and advertising. Sorry to keep pissing on the party, but everyone really does need to accept that Chinese Democracy won't be coming out this year.

[Refused]

Even if it isn't out this year, the release must be coming soon. I mean, they have "Better" on the HD ad. On the Harley website it says "from the forthcoming album Chinese Democracy". Good signs, surely? And of course, it's also promotion. I wish people would stop saying it would be stupid to release it with no promotion. They won't. But if the rumours are to be believed there will be a massive marketing push just before it's release.

[polluxlm]

If it isn't this year it will be next year, sure, but then it won't be until March probably.

[lennonisgod]

No promotion would be a commercial suicide.

With The Beatles, Oasis, U2 and [*sigh*] Westlife all releasing Christmas cash-ins next week, Chinese Democracy would only make top 5 at best as it is.

I've said it before, but this time of year is all about marketing and advertising. Sorry to keep pissing on the party, but everyone really does need to accept that Chinese Democracy won't be coming out this year.

When CD comes out this year, I'm going to start a thread with a list of names that have said, "It's not coming out this year."  IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR and my list of names saying otherwise, is growing by the day.  I just think it will be good for a laugh to prove to the people that think they know everything, that they obviously don't.

[Lucky]

I wish you people would realise that there is 1000s of stores world wide.
there are 10000s of people involved in getting the cds to the customer.


you cant be that naive...
they cant release it without anyone knowing about it.
we'll know, even if jesus christ was helping them, we'd know at least 5 days in advance(there's always a judas around).
and without supreme help, we'd know 10-15 days, if in fact they do want to keep it secret as long as possible.

there's no presedan on such event.
in 50 years never did something like that happen.


they might not officially anounce it via press release.
but we'll know. officially or unofficially...
we'll know for crying out loud.

when will you people grow up.


please mysterion, merck, axl,... whever!
stop this nonsence.

[polluxlm]

When CD comes out this year, I'm going to start a thread with a list of names that have said, "It's not coming out this year." IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR and my list of names saying otherwise, is growing by the day. I just think it will be good for a laugh to prove to the people that think they know everything, that they obviously don't.

And how are you so sure?

[BangoSkank]

If it isn't this year it will be next year, sure, but then it won't be until March probably.

it damn well better be this year. ?it'll be axl bashfest '07 if it doesn't. ?because this time it actually came from the man himself that the shit is coming and he meet soooOoOOooOo much resistance if he lied.

[TWT]

No promotion would be a commercial suicide.

With The Beatles, Oasis, U2 and [*sigh*] Westlife all releasing Christmas cash-ins next week, Chinese Democracy would only make top 5 at best as it is.

I've said it before, but this time of year is all about marketing and advertising. Sorry to keep pissing on the party, but everyone really does need to accept that Chinese Democracy won't be coming out this year.

When CD comes out this year, I'm going to start a thread with a list of names that have said, "It's not coming out this year."? IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR and my list of names saying otherwise, is growing by the day.? I just think it will be good for a laugh to prove to the people that think they know everything, that they obviously don't.

Just as long as you post the list on January 1 when the CD has failed to materialize with the topic title 'People who know more than me' ?

[stan1ey]

you cant be that naive...
they cant release it without anyone knowing about it.
we'll know, even if jesus christ was helping them, we'd know at least 5 days in advance.
and without supreme help, we'd know 10-15 days, if in fact they do want to keep it secret as long as possible.

OK, I got a theory (just a fun idea, please do not delete).  What if the record label listed the album with fictitious artist/album name, but the bar codes were correctly linked to CD.  This way, the stores would be blissfully unaware until they cracked open their stock on Tuesday AM, only to discover the listing error on the part of the label.  This would get CD into the stores under the cover of deliberate incompetence on the part of the label. 

[lennonisgod]

No promotion would be a commercial suicide.

With The Beatles, Oasis, U2 and [*sigh*] Westlife all releasing Christmas cash-ins next week, Chinese Democracy would only make top 5 at best as it is.

I've said it before, but this time of year is all about marketing and advertising. Sorry to keep pissing on the party, but everyone really does need to accept that Chinese Democracy won't be coming out this year.

When CD comes out this year, I'm going to start a thread with a list of names that have said, "It's not coming out this year."  IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR and my list of names saying otherwise, is growing by the day.  I just think it will be good for a laugh to prove to the people that think they know everything, that they obviously don't.

Just as long as you post the list on January 1 when the CD has failed to materialize with the topic title 'People who know more than me' 

Ok, I think that's fair.  Although it will say, "People that knew more than the rest of us."