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I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news.?The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
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Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
It's not 1991 anymore.
It's not? Shit, does that mean I should take off my parachute pants?
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Quote from: fixintodie on November 12, 2006, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
It's not 1991 anymore.
It's not? Shit, does that mean I should take off my parachute pants?
Only if you have a "Members Only" jacket to keep you warm.
Seriously, though, at this point, nothing would surprise me. Didn't Eminem release an album on a Friday a few years back in order to prevent leaks and catch music pirates "off-guard" or something along those lines?
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If it is slated for 11-28, I think it will show up on shelves on Black Friday, the 24th of November.
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Quote from: MrRedfield on November 12, 2006, 07:13:57 PM
Oh, please... Merck's just heard the question so many times that he was being sarcastic.
I know he's being sarcastic fuckhead. I'm just saying they know it doesnt need heavy promotion. At this point it dont matter, if you like music in any way, then you've heard about Chinese Democracy. It will be put out with little promotion. People think they are gonna spend months promoting this thing, but that just aint gonna happen. Thats all I was saying.
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Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
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Quote from: ChineseTwAt on November 12, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
let's not kod ourselves about the ax-man's ego...he may not be as self-indulgent and self-obsessed as he once was, but you're crazy if you think he doesn't want serious praise for this album, or that he's doing this ONLY to release a killer album. that's part of his charm, eh? the ego and the goods to back up that ego.
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Quote from: scar2d2w on November 12, 2006, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: ChineseTwAt on November 12, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
let's not kod ourselves about the ax-man's ego...he may not be as self-indulgent and self-obsessed as he once was, but you're crazy if you think he doesn't want serious praise for this album, or that he's doing this ONLY to release a killer album. that's part of his charm, eh? the ego and the goods to back up that ego.
Yep thats why everyone thinks this album is a joke in the industry. Not my opinion, theirs. If Axl really cared then he would have done something about it a long time ago. Like I said earlier, Axl just wants to make the best album he can, that he enjoys. All he cares about is the music, not the money, not the fame. It would have been out long ago if thats what it was about. Better yet, if it was about money and fame the old band reunite.
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Quote from: scar2d2w on November 12, 2006, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: ChineseTwAt on November 12, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
let's not kod ourselves about the ax-man's ego...he may not be as self-indulgent and self-obsessed as he once was, but you're crazy if you think he doesn't want serious praise for this album, or that he's doing this ONLY to release a killer album. that's part of his charm, eh? the ego and the goods to back up that ego.
Yep thats why everyone thinks this album is a joke in the industry. Not my opinion, theirs. If Axl really cared then he would have done something about it a long time ago. Like I said earlier, Axl just wants to make the best album he can, that he enjoys. All he cares about is the music, not the money, not the fame. It would have been out long ago if thats what it was about. Better yet, if it was about money and fame the old band reunite.
but for the old band to reunite they have to get along first...it isn't only about axl not wanting to work together again.
also, i think axl would have released the album way back when but he realized that it, and they, just weren't ready yet. i was just watching rio de janeiro 2001, and they were honestly not good--everyone fucked up royally. but i think if they had been ready then, he would have dropped CD.
i agree that the music means more to him than the press he has gotten for taking so long, even though i truly believe he's still a bit of an egomaniac
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Quote from: ChineseTwAt on November 12, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R.? And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
WTF are you talking about? and why are you so aggresive? As far as I know, you know nothing.
I believe the album isn't out yet not because of your bollocks, but just because it was not ready. If you think Axl doesn't care to be successfull, man, you are wrong. Everybody wants to be successfull, it's in the nature of human beeings. It's normal. And it has nothing to do with money or fame, it's just if you are a bit normal you are more happy when things are successfull and done right than when they fail and done wrong. Axl, you, me, everybody. Do you prefer to succeed or to fail?
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Money and fame are NOT an object. He just wants a good album, and when he thinks its good enough it'll come out. That time is now..so we'll see it soon. The question is November or December..were gettin down to the wire. Just have to keep "WAITING".
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Quote from: grog mug on November 12, 2006, 09:48:45 PM
Money and fame are NOT an object.? He just wants a good album, and when he thinks its good enough it'll come out.? That time is now..so we'll see it soon.? The question is November or December..were gettin down to the wire.? Just have to keep "WAITING".
Exactly. It will be out when he feels it's right.
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All of you make valid points... but I believe the record company (not just Axl) may have a say in this.
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Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: grog mug on November 12, 2006, 09:48:45 PM
Money and fame are NOT an object. He just wants a good album, and when he thinks its good enough it'll come out. That time is now..so we'll see it soon. The question is November or December..were gettin down to the wire. Just have to keep "WAITING".
Exactly. It will be out when he feels it's right.
Yeah exactly, it has nothing to do with money and fame. He already has both, its the about the music. You just proved what I was saying to you. and thats why its not gonna heavily promoted for 2 months before it comes out, the music is gonna do the talking.
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I've lost hope for a 2006 release...
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Quote from: ChineseTwAt on November 12, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
Are you Axl Rose? No? Then you don't know shit about what Axl thinks, cares about, or his motivation. You also don't know when the album is coming out, or how this album is going to be promoted, so please stop stating your opinions as if they were facts. If they are facts, back them up with sources.
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I would really love to see a concert DVD combo with the CD if it ever comes out. How shocking would that be if it did come out on November 24th ( Black Friday) as a shock ? Then G'n'R could release the video or single to sell the album I suppose.
I just hope it comes out finally.
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Quote from: ChineseTwAt on November 12, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: nesquik on November 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
I think you should stop dreaming. It's not 1991 anymore, GN'R is not the biggest band in the world anymore. This album needs promotion like any other album in the world. The market is difficult nowadays, even for GN'R. And while the internet is a good "free" promotion tool, it's still not enough. You can't count just on the internet.
Internet is part of the equation, but it's not the equation.
Not everybody on this planet goes to HTGH and look for the GN'R lastest news. The hardcore fans do, but "the general public" doesn't.
Keep living in your dream world. Axl doesnt care about fame and shit. He's doing this album because he wants to. If he wanted money and fame this thing would have been out a long time ago. Its not gonna be heavily promoted so go cry in your pillow and when you finally realize that, then come back here. It will be released with an announcement no more than two weeks before, if that.
Are you Axl Rose? No? Then you don't know shit about what Axl thinks, cares about, or his motivation. You also don't know when the album is coming out, or how this album is going to be promoted, so please stop stating your opinions as if they were facts. If they are facts, back them up with sources.
I never said I knew when the album was coming out so jab it, dont put fuckin words in my mouth. I'm just going by what Merck said in the Rolling Stone article. They say the album will be out by the end of the year, thats 2 months. You think that if there was going to be heavy promotion it would have started all ready. All I am going is by Axl and Merck's past qoutes to base my opinion off of.
Axl Rose, Past, Present, and Future documentary:
"Writing music and songs is the most important part of it to me, everything else is, like I said, a benefit. And we're really glad to get those, and we want all those we can get, but at the same time if we really have to compromise on the music then its really not worth it in the long run."
Merck in 2005:
"As one of the few people involved in the making of this album I can tell your readers the following. W. Axl Rose is not interested in fame, money, popularity or what the New York Times or any other paper for that matter might think of him. His only interest is making the best album he is capable of so that it can have a positive affect in 2005 on people who are enthusiasts of music and interested in Guns N' Roses. His artistic integrity is such that he has chosen to do so without compromise at great personal sacrifice which makes him a soft target for the sort of rubbish you have chosen to print. I believe he will have the last laugh."
Granted it never came out, but you get the point.
Merck, Rolling Stone 2006:
"I don?t know that we will announce a release date, you just might walk into your record shop one Tuesday and find it there.?
Go and look for yourself. Seems to me, that they aint gonna try and promote the fuck out of the album like some of you people think. I'm going by quotes from the 2 most important people in the Guns camp as far as the record goes, not some mindless dribble and speculation from fans who call local music stores to find stuff out. They obviously wouldnt know anyway, only the higher-ups would if they are trying to keep it a secret.
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for what its worth in the uk you can send a txt messege to AQA and they have the answer based on fact.....ask any question and its not wrong.3 times iv txt and my friends have also done it to see what the answer is for CD coming out and they say its due for release on NOV 21
Nov. 21 is a Tuesday. Albums come out on Mondays in the UK.
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Quote from: gnr2k6 on November 12, 2006, 06:04:31 PM
for what its worth in the uk you can send a txt messege to AQA and they have the answer based on fact.....ask any question and its not wrong.3 times iv txt and my friends have also done it to see what the answer is for CD coming out and they say its due for release on NOV 21
Nov. 21 is a Tuesday.? Albums come out on Mondays in the UK.
Not if they hold it back one day in the UK so the album doesnt leak online a day before its released in the states
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