why all the dates so far are bs

[EFISH]

He's pretty damn close to management, because he "knows" about the store gonna be put on the site, and says it as fast, sets up presales, etc....

I'm sure if he wasnt told something, he wouldnt have said "GNR management will announce the release date." as speculation because he knows that everyone for the most part, takes what he says as fact. And he didnt say "I think" he said it as fact. 

[Oh My Choking Soul]

By the way, everything indicated by Jarmo, and if we believe he is in the know to varying degrees, Mysteron doesn't have the answers. Also, clearly in Jarmo's last post in this thread he talks of management protecting the release date from the public. Merck himself has refused to pony-up a date and has been playing guessing games with Rolling Stone. Get with the program people, sit back and enjoy the ride... it may be a short one.

Quote: "I don't know why some of you think the band would hide the release date by telling HMV and not telling the fans about it."

That eludes to the fact that the date is being hidden, right? ...and that telling HMV would not be a very smart way to keep it hidden, am I right?

[Edward Rose]

If Axl wants it to be as much of a surprise as possible, no one except Axl, Merck and maybe Beta will know. Mysteron doesn't need more than a day or two notice before it hits stores.

In my oppinion, this is why I still think there's a chance it will pop up on a split sheet or something, before we get the official word. As someone else said, Rolling Stone and no one else told us about the new tour dates.

But even the split sheet thing will go un-noticed here because no one knows how to call and ask the store managers the right questions. And worse, when the split sheet thing came up, people brought up the old internet hmv date even though the split sheets have nothing to do with that. Kind'a funny really, to sit back and watch the confusion.

[Mysteron]

The band will announce the release date, not me or HMV

[jarmo]

Quote: "I don't know why some of you think the band would hide the release date by telling HMV and not telling the fans about it."

That eludes to the fact that the date is being hidden, right? ...and that telling HMV would not be a very smart way to keep it hidden, am I right?

No it doesn't.

All I'm saying is that I think people doing detective work looking for the release date are only causing other fans to get excited about false release dates.

Just like you're reading too much into what I said and meant.


Why would the band tell HMV the album will be in their stores on a certain date, but not tell anybody else? It makes no sense!

The answer is, the band hasn't said anything.




/jarmo

[lennonisgod]

By the way, everything indicated by Jarmo, and if we believe he is in the know to varying degrees, Mysteron doesn't have the answers. Also, clearly in Jarmo's last post in this thread he talks of management protecting the release date from the public. Merck himself has refused to pony-up a date and has been playing guessing games with Rolling Stone. Get with the program people, sit back and enjoy the ride... it may be a short one.

Quote: "I don't know why some of you think the band would hide the release date by telling HMV and not telling the fans about it."

That eludes to the fact that the date is being hidden, right? ...and that telling HMV would not be a very smart way to keep it hidden, am I right?

You're kind of taking what Jarmo said in the wrong way.  He never said they were hiding the release date.  They probabably don't even have a release date set yet because if they did then we would probably know about it.  It's not going to be some big surprise release like some people STILL THINK.  When the album is going to be released, we will know about it ahead of time like we do with any other album.  Be realistic and stop thinking the album is  coming out of nowhere because that will NEVER happen.

[flicknn]

Are you guys still optimistic about a 2006 release ?

[guns_n_motley]

By the way, everything indicated by Jarmo, and if we believe he is in the know to varying degrees, Mysteron doesn't have the answers. Also, clearly in Jarmo's last post in this thread he talks of management protecting the release date from the public. Merck himself has refused to pony-up a date and has been playing guessing games with Rolling Stone. Get with the program people, sit back and enjoy the ride... it may be a short one.

Quote: "I don't know why some of you think the band would hide the release date by telling HMV and not telling the fans about it."

That eludes to the fact that the date is being hidden, right? ...and that telling HMV would not be a very smart way to keep it hidden, am I right?

true, thats a possibility, but then again were not gonna believe HMV anyway, so it could come out on that day..

stores HAVE to know abit ahead of time..fact is though, they could just not put it in the system until a couple days before..

[Edward Rose]

The band will announce the release date, not me or HMV

I agree. But I still think that if someone tries hard enough, they might be able to "find out" the release date from hmv or another major retailer before it is officially announced. That's different than hmv "announcing it."

[EFISH]

The band will announce the release date, not me or HMV

Damn, you are fast. I say the word "Mysteron" and you just pop right in. 

Thanks again for the confirmation man. Really great to have someone like you in the community, makes up for all the rumor-obsessed people, if that makes any sense. 

[Howard2k]

Quote: "I don't know why some of you think the band would hide the release date by telling HMV and not telling the fans about it."

That eludes to the fact that the date is being hidden, right? ...and that telling HMV would not be a very smart way to keep it hidden, am I right?

No it doesn't.

All I'm saying is that I think people doing detective work looking for the release date are only causing other fans to get excited about false release dates.

Just like you're reading too much into what I said and meant.


Why would the band tell HMV the album will be in their stores on a certain date, but not tell anybody else? It makes no sense!

The answer is, the band hasn't said anything.




/jarmo

I converted your post to ASCII. ?Added up all the values and then factored it down to a 6 digit number.

I got ?121,906.

Are you trying to confirm Dec 19th?

[hpantazo]

Is Jarmo or Mysteron still optimistic about a 2006 release or do either of you think it's out of the realm of possibility now?

[flicknn]

Is Jarmo or Mysteron still optimistic about a 2006 release or do either of you think it's out of the realm of possibility now?

That's the million dollar qeustion !

[Oh My Choking Soul]

Quote: "I don't know why some of you think the band would hide the release date by telling HMV and not telling the fans about it."

That eludes to the fact that the date is being hidden, right? ...and that telling HMV would not be a very smart way to keep it hidden, am I right?

No it doesn't.

All I'm saying is that I think people doing detective work looking for the release date are only causing other fans to get excited about false release dates.

Just like you're reading too much into what I said and meant.


Why would the band tell HMV the album will be in their stores on a certain date, but not tell anybody else? It makes no sense!

The answer is, the band hasn't said anything.




/jarmo

Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I genuinely misunderstood.

[guns_n_motley]

yes, I just want to know what Jarmo and Mysteron think of a 2006 release, if they are still positive that it will be this year..

[Oh My Choking Soul]

yes, I just want to know what Jarmo and Mysteron think of a 2006 release, if they are still positive that it will be this year..

They won't answer that. At least Jarmo won't. (waits anxiously, refresh, refresh)

[Edward Rose]

yes, I just want to know what Jarmo and Mysteron think of a 2006 release, if they are still positive that it will be this year..

You're missing the point. They don't know any more or less that would make their oppinion more worthy than others.

[hpantazo]

yes, I just want to know what Jarmo and Mysteron think of a 2006 release, if they are still positive that it will be this year..

You're missing the point. They don't know any more or less that would make their oppinion more worthy than others.

well it would still be nice to know their opinion, I'm not asking about a fact or inside info.

[EFISH]

I think it's going to be out this year. That's what I've been told atleast, and you've been told. I think this is the year.

Something like that. ^ That should answer your question. 

[Lucky]

I still believe that it will be out by the end of the year.
it would be really unethical for the band not to let us know about the change in the scheudle...