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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2006, 10:00:49 AM »

They should keep it down, but they do have their own fans to think about here too - it's still a business

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that no one from the band spoke to them directly and left them in the dust with no knowledge - so they got a little pissed here

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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2006, 10:05:06 AM »

Papa Roach actually have a decent career -- nothing spectacular, but they have platinum albums and can fill about 3000 seaters in major markets, I think.  As a result, the Guns tour is certainly a good deal for them to increase their audience, but it's not a career breaker by any stretch.  Unlike Bach, they are not in the position where they have to ass-kiss and sugarcoat everything that Guns does.  I respect them for that -- that doesn't mean that they should take empty potshots at the band that gave them an opening slot, but when a gig gets cancelled at the last-minute (and in PR's view it must have not been essential for the gig to be cancelled), it is normal for a band to be bummed about the effect on its fans.  That just seems like consideration 101, and PR at least had some fans going to this show (not many, though!).
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2006, 10:07:10 AM »

POLL STAR has nothing to due with ticket sales people!

Oh, and least the newscast mentioned ticketsales....disappointing.......wish there were more. Sad
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2006, 10:13:20 AM »

In no way should they be asked to leave the tour! I would hate to travel all that way, not to play. They are brilliant for saying that...they just want to rock!

I really felt sorry for that blonde girl though, she's no longer a GN'R fan (yeh, like i believe that Roll Eyes)
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2006, 10:19:37 AM »

Here's what I don't understand:

What time Axl shows up and where he is should have NOTHING to do with Papa Roach whatsoever. They are scheduled to go on "around" 10pm every night. That has nothing to do with GNR. Just show up, do your job and leave. When and where Axl is shouldn't matter to those guys. I can't think of anyone I've come into contact with who even cares that Papa Roach is on this tour so I'm not sure where they got their idea of self importance from anyways.
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2006, 10:32:57 AM »

What self-importance?
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2006, 10:33:56 AM »

What self-importance?

Acting as if they matter at all on this tour.
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2006, 10:34:38 AM »

Pappa Roach are a completely forgettable sub-standard run of the mill manufactured "Rock" band.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2006, 10:35:29 AM »

Avenge Sevenfold were a much better choice.
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2006, 10:36:07 AM »

What self-importance?

Acting as if they matter at all on this tour.

They do. That's. Why. They. Were. Asked. To. Play.
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2006, 10:38:51 AM »

What self-importance?

Acting as if they matter at all on this tour.

They do. That's. Why. They. Were. Asked. To. Play.

No. They were asked to play because they are a band signed to a label. Do you know anyone who's excited about seeing Papa Roach on this tour?

You know why?

Because. They. Don't. Matter.
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2006, 10:40:28 AM »

In a way, I can see the original point, as they are the opener, and as such, should represent the tour in a positive light at all times.

Yeah, like pretending they don't see the elephant in the living room. ?Roll Eyes

There comments may have been taken out of context, but as others have said, you can't blame them for being pissed. ?

Papa Roach actually have a decent career -- nothing spectacular, but they have platinum albums and can fill about 3000 seaters in major markets, I think.? As a result, the Guns tour is certainly a good deal for them to increase their audience...

Well they're not increasing their audience if GNR are only drawing 3000 fans, maybe those are the PR fans and GNR isn't drawing anybody. ?hihi ?But seriously, I bet PR are thinking that if GNR are driving away as many fans as they're drawing with the late starts and now the no-show, they should be the headliners, not GNR. ?(I'm not saying I agree with that, just that it's a very good bet that thought has crossed their minds).

And again, the Pollstar 'chart' that's being referred to here is NOT a sales chart, it's only an Internet search engine figure. ?People may be looking at the itinerary, but they're not buying tickets. ?The sales are very spotty. ? It's too bad because it's obviously not the music, the reviews are generally great, it's the late nights and the now-realized threat of no-shows. ?

One one hand it will get worse, even fewer people will want to chance buying tickets (thanks to the service charges), but at least now more people may actually realize GNR are touring. ?It's really hard to sell tickets when nobody knows you're playing. ?The lack of fanfare also makes the band seem a lot less important in the eyes of the public and that pushes them down that slippery slope.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2006, 10:41:22 AM »

i say give Roach the boot. ?bring Buckcherry on board for the remainder of the tour. now that would be one hellofa show... Baz, Buckcherry, GN'R! ? smoking
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2006, 10:45:45 AM »

Aren't they leaving the tour soon anyway?

Yes they are. Will they be there at the MSG show ? If so they can just stay quiet for GN'R giving them the opportunity to play a sold-out MSG.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2006, 10:49:03 AM »

I MADE THAT VIDEO THEY PLAYED FOR WELCOME IN THE JUNGLE. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8037676992851127221&q=Guns+N%27+Roses

WTF?! Can I get a royalty or something from that?!
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2006, 10:49:45 AM »

What self-importance?

Acting as if they matter at all on this tour.

They do. That's. Why. They. Were. Asked. To. Play.

No. They were asked to play because they are a band signed to a label. Do you know anyone who's excited about seeing Papa Roach on this tour?

You know why?

Because. They. Don't. Matter.

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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2006, 11:11:52 AM »

papa roach just need to chill out.  i am sure they could be easily replaced.
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2006, 11:42:09 AM »

WTH is doing a mediocre lil band like Papa roach in this tour, give Roach the boot!  smoking
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2006, 12:04:44 PM »

buckcherry is actually a good choice.   Their album just went gold, which is impressive in this market.
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2006, 12:14:21 PM »

Papa Roach are fucking lame.


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