Concerns of the album's release date from a music store employee

[guns_n_motley]

I love the running misconception around here that somehow Axl Rose and Guns N Roses are above the record industry. Like somehow wasting 13 million dollars of record company money is the key to the castle of never having to do anything according the rules. The label is a big business and big business doesn't sink tens of millions into a recording without putting the proper promotion and advertising and planning in place to recoup that money.

so youare saying is correct ......13 million and the record company adds mopre money to thjat in promotion?If i was record I would tell axl ...yeah you can put it out , but we are not promoting shit

exactly. what people dont understand, is that it costs LOTS of $$ to promote a cd... just to get a SMALL single on the radio it costs $100,000 I doubt the record company wants to sink MORE $$ into this thing...

they want to get it out and try to make as much $$ back as possible... but promoting it will make them lose more $$

[AxlReznor]

They'll stand to lose a lot more by not doing that.

[flicknn]

They'll stand to lose a lot more by not doing that.

by not promoting ?I thought 10 + years of saying it was coming out , plus a eddie trunk interveiw , and countless fan websites such as this one , would be enough promotion . If this album drops just imagine the craziness

[ppbebe]

exactly MrRedfield. and they (interscope/uni/ geffen) most likely know it.
Look at the GH sales. 7 million worldwide and counting despite that little promotion.
That sounds like they have recouped their whole investment in cd already.
Now, the choice is GNR's, I guess.

[guns_n_motley]

exactly MrRedfield. and they (interscope/uni/ geffen) most likely know it.
Look at the GH sales. 7 million worldwide and counting despite that little promotion.
That sounds like they have recouped their whole investment in cd already.
Now, the choice is GNR's, I guess.

no one said there wouldnt be promo.. the question is whether or not promo starts when the cd is released or before...

I doubt it will be before because they dont want anything to leak...

[Skunk]

I have no idea!
It is all really really interesting though, if only because the Chinese Democracy tour is ongoing, and we haven't heard any statement to contradict that it's coming out this year. Everyone points out the difficulty in this, but it makes you wonder WHY something wouldn't be discussed when we got direct response about Portland AND deleted threads. I have to assume there's a reasoning behind silence about CD. It could be they really just find us all amusing.

[ppbebe]

exactly MrRedfield. and they (interscope/uni/ geffen) most likely know it.
Look at the GH sales. 7 million worldwide and counting despite that little promotion.
That sounds like they have recouped their whole investment in cd already.
Now, the choice is GNR's, I guess.

no one said there wouldnt be promo.. the question is whether or not promo starts when the cd is released or before...

I doubt it will be before because they dont want anything to leak...

who said you were saying there wouldnt be promo. Do you even read my post?
Basically how can you be so sure about what the band think?

[G N R PIMP]

this album will get leaked.

jay z's new album got leaked today , and that's not released until 28th (i think).

[Slashead]

If the album is coming out this year, Axl and Merck should say it clearly. Axl should say at a show : "Yes, it's coming out this year !" Or if it's not coming out : "No, it's not coming out this year !"

Axl and Merck know that the hardcore fans have been waiting for years, they know we are scrutinizing any sign as maniacs.

At this point, Axl and Merck know if the record will be released this year. But they are not saying much, I think it shows a lack of respect for the fans.

[Apollon]

If the album is coming out this year, Axl and Merck should say it clearly. Axl should say at a show : "Yes, it's coming out this year !" Or if it's not coming out : "No, it's not coming out this year !"

Axl and Merck know that the hardcore fans have been waiting for years, they know we are scrutinizing any sign as maniacs.

At this point, Axl and Merck know if the record will be released this year. But they are not saying much, I think it shows a lack of respect for the fans.

That isn't a lack of respect! That's simply a marketing strategy to avoid leaking or something...

And Axl and Merck stated several times that the album is coming out this year! So why are you complaining?

[Slashead]

And Axl and Merck stated several times that the album is coming out this year! So why are you complaining?

Axl didn't say anything about the album for a long time now. And Merck is being quite evasive.

Marketing strategy ? Come on ! There are hundreds of people making the albums, printing the booklet, doing the adverts, etc... Everybody knows what's going on, except the fans !

[give_it_a_rest]

If the album is coming out this year, Axl and Merck should say it clearly. Axl should say at a show : "Yes, it's coming out this year !" Or if it's not coming out : "No, it's not coming out this year !"

Axl and Merck know that the hardcore fans have been waiting for years, they know we are scrutinizing any sign as maniacs.

At this point, Axl and Merck know if the record will be released this year. But they are not saying much, I think it shows a lack of respect for the fans.

I agree even if it will be 2007 JUST TELL US!!!

[ppbebe]

Silence is golden. sometime it even glitters.
I still think a silent release would be wicked for a very anticipated album. especially for a loud and grand one.

Axl didn't say anything about the album for a long time now. And Merck is being quite evasive.

well after ~ years, you call a couple of months a long time?  "One of the tuesdays before jan" evasive?

[The Legend]

If the album is coming out this year, Axl and Merck should say it clearly. Axl should say at a show : "Yes, it's coming out this year !" Or if it's not coming out : "No, it's not coming out this year !"

Axl and Merck know that the hardcore fans have been waiting for years, they know we are scrutinizing any sign as maniacs.

At this point, Axl and Merck know if the record will be released this year. But they are not saying much, I think it shows a lack of respect for the fans.

Axl was clear.

You just have to wait now.

[russtcb]

I emailed one of my contacts at Universal late last week and got this reply back last night for what it's worth:



"Hey Russ,

 

How?s it going?  Yep, pretty crazy that I?ll be dealing with the G N? R record now that I am over at Universal.  So far, I haven?t heard anything that says the record will be out this year.  It might pop on to the schedule at the last minute, but I would think that they would want to make sure they have this record properly set up.  ******* and I will definitely let you know whenever we get a release date.

 

Enjoy the show!  I?ll be out of town for the holiday weekend.

 

Hope all is well!

 

**

Regardless of whether he's a 'contact' or 'insider'-type, I highly doubt someone that could e-mail you that easily with info, is going to know anything about the album's release.

jmho...

He happens to be a good friend of mine who works for Universal and has been assigned to the album promotion in this area. So yes he would have access to the information and yes he would share it with me that easily.

[flicknn]

I emailed one of my contacts at Universal late last week and got this reply back last night for what it's worth:



"Hey Russ,

 

How?s it going?  Yep, pretty crazy that I?ll be dealing with the G N? R record now that I am over at Universal.  So far, I haven?t heard anything that says the record will be out this year.  It might pop on to the schedule at the last minute, but I would think that they would want to make sure they have this record properly set up.  ******* and I will definitely let you know whenever we get a release date.

 

Enjoy the show!  I?ll be out of town for the holiday weekend.

 

Hope all is well!

 

**

Regardless of whether he's a 'contact' or 'insider'-type, I highly doubt someone that could e-mail you that easily with info, is going to know anything about the album's release.

jmho...

He happens to be a good friend of mine who works for Universal and has been assigned to the album promotion in this area. So yes he would have access to the information and yes he would share it with me that easily.

there it is there, it may not even be out this year , hell it may not even exists , i am lost more then a 2 year old without his binky

[Jim Bob]

And Axl and Merck stated several times that the album is coming out this year! So why are you complaining?

Axl didn't say anything about the album for a long time now. And Merck is being quite evasive.

Marketing strategy ? Come on ! There are hundreds of people making the albums, printing the booklet, doing the adverts, etc... Everybody knows what's going on, except the fans !

i would hardly consider you a 'fan'

[Dark_Ryu]

If its coming out this year, then im a 2two bit whore. i think it wont be out.

[AxlsSweetChild]

If the album is coming out this year, Axl and Merck should say it clearly. Axl should say at a show : "Yes, it's coming out this year !" Or if it's not coming out : "No, it's not coming out this year !"

Axl and Merck know that the hardcore fans have been waiting for years, they know we are scrutinizing any sign as maniacs.

At this point, Axl and Merck know if the record will be released this year. But they are not saying much, I think it shows a lack of respect for the fans.

Axl did say that it would be out this year, he said it would definately be out, im so fucking tired of ppl saying that we havent been promised anything, if thats not a promise, then wat is

[russtcb]

If the album is coming out this year, Axl and Merck should say it clearly. Axl should say at a show : "Yes, it's coming out this year !" Or if it's not coming out : "No, it's not coming out this year !"

Axl and Merck know that the hardcore fans have been waiting for years, they know we are scrutinizing any sign as maniacs.

At this point, Axl and Merck know if the record will be released this year. But they are not saying much, I think it shows a lack of respect for the fans.

Axl did say that it would be out this year, he said it would definately be out, im so fucking tired of ppl saying that we havent been promised anything, if thats not a promise, then wat is

He did say the album will be out this year at least twice. However he has never in anyway made any promise about a specific date.