If CD is coming this year, wouldn't they have had to start manufactoring it?

[Ax]

I don't know much about the how record companies make cds, but if CD is in fact coming out this year, how much time does it take from the point that the final master is submitted and the point that there are enough copies manufactored to release it to the publc?

I would imagine it would take a little while to make a million or so cds.

I just ask this because I believe that when CD goes into mass production we will hear something from someone. Be it someone who works at the factory or someone around the process. And since we haven't heard anything yet, it leads me to think that the final master copy has not been turned over yet. When do you think is the deadline for the master to be turned over if we want to have this cd released this year?

[Dr. Blutarsky]

all those in the manufacturing process will be forced to sign a gag order 

[ZoulonFire]

I totally agree, and have been thinking this for a while myself.  It takes 6 WEEKS to press a record; if the record was in production, someone would know about it and leak the info. 

[Ax]

There is no doubt that all those involved in the manufactoring process will have to sign a gag order. But the point is that with the large number of people that will hear about that process occuring there is bound to be a leak of information about it.

[The Legend]

I'm sure the manufacturing process has already begun if not finished.

[ILoveGNRandPhysics]

You have  avery good point. 

[GnR-NOW]

It could already be done for all we know.  I mean Axl has said this year, Merck said on one of the Tuesdays before the  end of the year without an announcement.  So we'll see ... its goign to be very exciting.

[GeraldFord]

I'm sure the manufacturing process has already begun if not finished.

That would mean finished copies of CD are made and ready to go...I doubt it. Surely someone would leak....I'm starting to think that we may not get CD in 2006... Please let me be wrong!

[crow316]

i have pretty much said the same thing.  Yeah, Im sure there are gag orders, but word would still get out.  It hasnt been manufactured yet, and I doubt it will be out this year.

[surforia]

If it'd been pressed, it would have leaked already.  That's pretty much how albums leak, some dude pulls it off the conveyer belt and uploads it.

[bDinan]

If it hasn't been pressed/manufactured by now, its not coming out in 2006.

[CheapJon]

i have also been thinking about this but didn't create a new thread because i thought people would misunderstand me and think i was saying that there is no chance CD will be released in this year and so on.. anyway someone said it takes 6 weeks, is that a fact and how do you know that?

[cybercurves]

Well record manufacturing companies do not go into business to press CD's so that someone with-in their compainies will leak the music. ?They are very well aware that they will get their assess sued if they're responsible for such leaks. ?

What happens is a final master from the studio (usually burned to a CD rom) is sent to the plant where a "glass master" is created. ?This "glass master" is used as a "main master" (or template) where all the CD copies are manufactured from. ?A "glass master" takes only a day to create. ?I'm guessing that perhaps they'll press about a million copies for shipping to the stores. ?Then maybe a few weeks ?later they'll press another run of a million or a roundabout number.

Hope this helps.

cybercurves

[crow316]

I wasnt trying to say that the CD itself would be leaked, I was saying that word would be out if the CD was about to be,or already was, pressed.  More because the packaging/artwork itself needs to be created/printed.  Thats what I think would get leaked before the music.

[Mateoson]

I think it would be pretty hard to hush a whole manufacturing plant up. I mean anything is possible I guess. Assuming nobody working when it is pressed is a GnR fan it could happen. I worked at a disc manufacturing plant in the "cube" portion of the building a few years ago. I had no special clearance really, but walked into the factory area where they pressed CDs, DVDs, and games on occasion and nobody ever hassled me. They peaked in my bag when I left the building every day, but other than than nothing. If there is going to be an effort to really hide this release and surprise everyone, they'll have to make an exception and change the whole process. Digital media at a manufacturing plant has to pass between many hands, there are scrap CDs thrown away, the list goes on.... At the very least I'd say we'll know when it is being manufactured.

[Bill 213]

Axl is burning copies of CD one by one on his computer.  Then he's printing out the artwork one by one using Microsoft Paint.  When he gets to a million, he'll let you know!

[The Legend]

I'm sure the manufacturing process has already begun if not finished.

That would mean finished copies of CD are made and ready to go...I doubt it. Surely someone would leak....I'm starting to think that we may not get CD in 2006... Please let me be wrong!

Some things are leak proof. Not everything lands in the internet's hands before the general public hears it.

[Ax]

When I made this thread I was in no way saying that the cd itself would leak. I was only saying that we would hear that the manufactoring process had begun. Meaning that something like this would occur;

some worker at the factory would mention to someone he knew that they were printing the new guns n' roses cd and then that friend would post on the internet what he heard. So far we have heard nothing to indicate that the manufactoring process has begun so I would say that is a pretty good indication that we are not as close to the release as we would like to think

[Bill 213]

When I made this thread I was in no way saying that the cd itself would leak. I was only saying that we would hear that the manufactoring process had begun. Meaning that something like this would occur;

some worker at the factory would mention to someone he knew that they were printing the new guns n' roses cd and then that friend would post on the internet what he heard. So far we have heard nothing to indicate that the manufactoring process has begun so I would say that is a pretty good indication that we are not as close to the release as we would like to think

Just pretend I have 6 posts............"Holy shit guys, my buddy Steve who works for this CD manufacturing plant just told me he's making the new Guns 'N Roses cd.  Don't take my word for it, but supposedly it's supposed to come out sometime in the next 8 weeks."  I'm sure you'll hear a rumor like this pop up now. 
Either way dude, most cds are made in like sweatshops in Taiwan and then shipped to America.  I wouldn't count on too many people over there giving a rats ass about telling their buddy about the CD.

[dodger girl]

Axl is burning copies of CD one by one on his computer.  Then he's printing out the artwork one by one using Microsoft Paint.  When he gets to a million, he'll let you know!

 

I just pictured Axl fighting with the inkjet printer for taking 5 minutes to print each sheet in economic ink

so everything suddenly makes lotta more sense.. that's why it's taking so long and why Merck can't announce a proper release date.. cuz even he doesn't know how much is gonna take Axl to finish printing all the artwork and burning all the copies