AXL's Rant in San Juan last night

[jimb0]

LOL @ polluxlm's word.... cockdickfucker

[Duff II]

'm sure even AXL is bored with playing Appetite every night.?

Didn't he say "I don't want to live in the shadow of Appetite all my life" while making Illusions.?

yeah, something like that.

he doesn't want to be a nostalgia act.  I'm almost certain of that.  But until CD is released, this is what we're gonna get. 

[jimb0]

'm sure even AXL is bored with playing Appetite every night. 

Didn't he say "I don't want to live in the shadow of Appetite all my life" while making Illusions. 

yeah, something like that.

he doesn't want to be a nostalgia act.  I'm almost certain of that.  But until CD is released, this is what we're gonna get. 

I guess he deems it a necessary evil.  Therefore I'm not going to bust his balls when he believes that he's doing what he needs to do.

[Voodoochild]

I dunno why people says "I've seen the band on this tour like 100000 times and I can complain". No, you don't. The shows are not made for you and the small part of the crowd who were at another gig, but the majority who never saw the new band or the GN'R at all. Better not be so selfish about it...

[marino95]

About the setlist...... all the whining and complaining is really unjustified when you think about it. ?Coldplay toured for 2 years - coming to the same cities 2 and 3 times - on the X&Y album and never changed a single thing. ?They even included an "impromptu" acoustic portion that was the same every night - and Chris Martin "spontaneously" ran out into the crowd during In My Place every night.

It's just that we expect more from GNR. ?U2 changes their set list every night... ?which is what adds to them being such an incredible live band. ?If you want anybody (other than kids with lots of free time) to go to more than one show on a tour, you've gotta mix it up a little. ?GNR for YEARS was one of the best live bands out there because of the unpredictability. ?That's where the "most dangerous band" crap came from. ?You can hardly say this now. ?Now they're more like Kiss, touring playing classics to their old fan base. ? Say what you want - but until CD comes out - this is a nostalgia act. ?

But Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed the HELL out of the NYC concert - probably one of the best I've ever been to. ?But without a changing setlist, it's hard to get people to go see you multiple times on the same tour, that's all.

[Bodhi]

good...its nice to see that Axl said that...I have been saying that for weeks now, i cant stand people who bitch about the setlist....every gnr song is great.... especially people who bitch and dont even go to the shows, they have no right to an opinion at all...ill be at 2 shows next week....and im not complaining about the setlist.....

[evergreen_layne]

Yeah this is true.  I'm seeing them on consecutive nights in December and I'd be happy with the same setlist but he did say that once the album comes out they're gonna start adding new songs.  So he's hoping.

Oh yeah and about Axl saying who cares about some dude in Ireland sitting behind his computer knocking the setlist - he obviously cares otherwise he wouldn't start a rant about it!

[Eazy E]

How many times have you watched one of your favorite movies? How many times have you eaten your favorite meal? How many times have you taken a scenic route that you just happen to love? How many times have you hiked the same trail? Or went skiing down that same slope? How many times have you listened to AFD for that matter?

Ok, I'm going to a show on this tour and I'm sure I will enjoy it... but the difference between those things you listed is that this is a live performance by a rock band.  This doesn't need to be "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat" on tour where everyone follows a script.  It's a shame that such a talented band is not motivated to bring some variety to their live show.

Coldplay may have played the same concert for the entire X&Y tour, but they didn't play the same set from the Rush Of Blood To The Head tour... or the Parachutes tour.... Axl has been playing the same setlist since Coldplay's career started and you'll have to forgive some of us for hoping that we might get something different on his second run through North America.   

[jarmo]

This doesn't need to be "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat" on tour where everyone follows a script.? It's a shame that such a talented band is not motivated to bring some variety to their live show.

Where the hell do you get your information from?

They have certain songs they add to their set depending on what they feel like. That's a fact.

Check a scan of an actual setlist for proof.


They also switch around the order of the songs in the set so it's not like it's all the same songs in the same order the whole tour.

 


/jarmo

[forgotaboutsteve]

to the poster before jarmo--do you understand how much work goes into putting together a solid setlist. ?to just pull a song out of their collective asses would probably come out sounding terrible. ?many gnr songs are quite complex in terms of changes, solos, length, etc. and to rehearse and have at the ready 40+ different songs all played perfectly the way axl demands just isn't feasible, i guess.

[alternativemonkey]

good...its nice to see that Axl said that...I have been saying that for weeks now, i cant stand people who bitch about the setlist....every gnr song is great.... especially people who bitch and dont even go to the shows, they have no right to an opinion at all...ill be at 2 shows next week....and im not complaining about the setlist.....

I've flown to Vegas, driven to Boston, and flown across the Atlantic for GNR. Are my credentials strong enough to "complain"?

What is wrong with wanting GNR to throw in Civil War or Estranged? I think it is ridiculous for fans to chastized by others on this board for simply wanting their favorite group to play more and different songs. A simple suggestion is not "complaining".

It's facism on these boards. If people disagree with what you say, you are labeled "negative".

[marino95]

How many times have you watched one of your favorite movies? How many times have you eaten your favorite meal? How many times have you taken a scenic route that you just happen to love? How many times have you hiked the same trail? Or went skiing down that same slope? How many times have you listened to AFD for that matter?

Coldplay may have played the same concert for the entire X&Y tour, but they didn't play the same set from the Rush Of Blood To The Head tour... or the Parachutes tour.... Axl has been playing the same setlist since Coldplay's career started and you'll have to forgive some of us for hoping that we might get something different on his second run through North America.? ?

LOL - good point.

It does take a great deal of rehearsal to prepare 40+ songs for a setlist.  But somehow back when GNR was full of junkies and drunks they managed OK. 

[killingvector]

This doesn't need to be "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat" on tour where everyone follows a script.  It's a shame that such a talented band is not motivated to bring some variety to their live show.

Where the hell do you get your information from?

They have certain songs they add to their set depending on what they feel like. That's a fact.

Check a scan of an actual setlist for proof.


They also switch around the order of the songs in the set so it's not like it's all the same songs in the same order the whole tour.

 


/jarmo

Are you being serious, jarmo?

The variation in the setlist has been very small and predictable since the Hammer shows. Considering the number of songs not being played, the choice to do this seems strange.

@Neemo, 2002 was meant to generate interest. Again, where is the difference between 2002 and 2006? Axl needs to show us.

No release date, no single, no album....damn skippy I will bitch about the same setlist.

This shouldnt be 2002 but it feels like it.

[CAFC Nick]

Well, right, my first Gunners gig was on this tour, so I have absolutely NO complaints about the set-list (although my bro was slightly disappointed there was no Rocket Queen)

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Coldplay may have played the same concert for the entire X&Y tour, but they didn't play the same set from the Rush Of Blood To The Head tour... or the Parachutes tour.... Axl has been playing the same setlist since Coldplay's career started and you'll have to forgive some of us for hoping that we might get something different on his second run through North America.   

LOL - good point.

It does take a great deal of rehearsal to prepare 40+ songs for a setlist.  But somehow back when GNR was full of junkies and drunks they managed OK. 

There a show on the UYI tour where Axl mimics a nerdy voice saying 'Hey, I saw that show in Toledo', and he doesnt want that to happen, so they're gonna mix up the setlist. It was funny,aahhh, I cant remember which show it was.

[GNR estranged]

'm sure even AXL is bored with playing Appetite every night.?

Didn't he say "I don't want to live in the shadow of Appetite all my life" while making Illusions.?

yeah, something like that.

he doesn't want to be a nostalgia act.? I'm almost certain of that.? But until CD is released, this is what we're gonna get.?

axl said that right before the illusion records were out. bascially what he ment was he was tired of just playing appetite live at shows and they were only known for that record. he wanted to get another record out so that the band wasnt only known for appetite. people take that quote out of context. he said it at a time when that was GNR's only major record out. ?now, its 15 years later and he hasnt played those songs in a while. he is just having fun with songs that he hasnt played to most cities in a long time. the casual GNR fan goes to these shows and has a blast. they get to hear 95% of the songs that they want to hear when they buy a ticket to GNR. I say enjoy this setlist while it lasts because after CD hits we won't have as many old songs.

[jarmo]

Are you being serious, jarmo?

The variation in the setlist has been very small and predictable since the Hammer shows. Considering the number of songs not being played, the choice to do this seems strange.

Comparing GN'R shows to some kind of musical is ridiculous.

They could play a two hour show with only new material and some of you would post "It was weird since nobody knew the songs and the place was dead. I wish they had added some familiar songs to the set".

They're playing the biggest hits and it makes sense to many people.

I love Coma and Estranged, but they were never hits. So it makes sense to play songs from one of the biggest selling albums of the 1980s instead.




/jarmo

[jimb0]

'm sure even AXL is bored with playing Appetite every night. 

Didn't he say "I don't want to live in the shadow of Appetite all my life" while making Illusions. 

yeah, something like that.

he doesn't want to be a nostalgia act.  I'm almost certain of that.  But until CD is released, this is what we're gonna get. 

axl said that right before the illusion records were out. bascially what he ment was he was tired of just playing appetite live at shows and they were only known for that record. he wanted to get another record out so that the band wasnt only known for appetite. people take that quote out of context. he said it at a time when that was GNR's only major record out.  now, its 15 years later and he hasnt played those songs in a while. he is just having fun with songs that he hasnt played to most cities in a long time. the casual GNR fan goes to these shows and has a blast. they get to hear 95% of the songs that they want to hear when they buy a ticket to GNR. I say enjoy this setlist while it lasts because after CD hits we won't have as many old songs.

I'm sure he wants to bury it wish CD just like he wanted to bury it with Illusions. 

[Scabbie]

Too funny! Don't take it personally guys. He just picked a country!

If he was gonna pick a country then he should have picked France as thats where a lot of complaining seems to come from.

[Naupis]

Probably 95% of the audience are seeing the band for the first time and have no problem with the set-list because it is songs they know and love. The other 5% fan boy types that aren't happy with it will buy tickets no matter what because of their love of the band, so if I was Axl I really wouldn't bother taking the time to have the band learn and rehearse new songs either. They have about 20 some odd songs down pat right now, and that is all they need to keep the show going.

There is no point in doing all that extra work to please 5% of an audience that is going to give you their money no matter what you play. The key is to impress the other 95% who need to be sold on the new line-up.