Regarding all the rumors of "Better" being the single

[ledgo74]

just wanted to say that since febuary there is not a day goes by that i dont get in from work an the first song i,ll put on is better it fuckin kicks ass ive even got it on my phone and ive played it to a lot of non gnr fans and they all love it and said it should be a single i think its gonna make a lot of ppl stand up and listen and judging from the new ones ive heard this album will more than stand up to previous gnr albums and ive been a gunner since appetite yeah i was gutted when gnr split but i love the new band and i cant wait for them to be seen as guns n roses not just axls hired hands they fuckin kick ass .

[nesquick]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

[fixintodie]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

Hell no. If Guns N' Roses ever release anything as contrived as 'One', I'll be very disappointed. Better is a great melodic song, with still a sharp enough edge. The day GNR are universally accepted as something your mom and grandma can all enjoy, will be a very dark day for rock n' roll.

"Led Zeppelin didn't make tunes that everyone liked - they left that to the Bee Gees".

[ShotgunBlues1978]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

Hell no. If Guns N' Roses ever release anything as contrived as 'One', I'll be very disappointed. Better is a great melodic song, with still a sharp enough edge. The day GNR are universally accepted as something your mom and grandma can all enjoy, will be a very dark day for rock n' roll.

"Led Zeppelin didn't make tunes that everyone liked - they left that to the Bee Gees".

Exactly this is what separates GnR from the likes of U2 or Bon Jovi, and no I'm not comparing U2 or Bon Jovi in terms of musical style but rather their appeal.  U2 and Bon Jovi make "safe" music that's inoffensive.  GnR has always had more of an edge to them and a certain element that scares away a portion of the fanbase for bands like U2 and Bon Jovi.  Fuck appeasing everyone

[masterdan]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

Hell no. If Guns N' Roses ever release anything as contrived as 'One', I'll be very disappointed. Better is a great melodic song, with still a sharp enough edge. The day GNR are universally accepted as something your mom and grandma can all enjoy, will be a very dark day for rock n' roll.

"Led Zeppelin didn't make tunes that everyone liked - they left that to the Bee Gees".

Exactly this is what separates GnR from the likes of U2 or Bon Jovi, and no I'm not comparing U2 or Bon Jovi in terms of musical style but rather their appeal.? U2 and Bon Jovi make "safe" music that's inoffensive.? GnR has always had more of an edge to them and a certain element that scares away a portion of the fanbase for bands like U2 and Bon Jovi.? Fuck appeasing everyone

Damn straight, brother!!

[Jim Bob]

I didn't say I disliked the old songs. I just think the new songs are lightyears ahead of the old tunes in every shape and form. I love the old songs but in all seriousness they aren't even on the same scale as the new ones, save a few.

That's your opinion and I respect it. Nevertheless, at the shows, people are way happier when songs like WTTJ, November Rain, Nightrain or SCOM are played  than when Better is played. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. And I suppose it will be like that forever.

I wonder why...

PS : yes NicoRourke, I know it is called Guns N'Roses... But is it justified ? The editor of French magazine "Rock & Folk" sent me a message a couple of months ago. According to him, it is not justified. He's not the only one who thinks like that.

whether or not its justified isn't the fucking argument.  damn.   weren't you already told to take this shit to dead horse?   

[Journeyman]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

Hell no. If Guns N' Roses ever release anything as contrived as 'One', I'll be very disappointed. Better is a great melodic song, with still a sharp enough edge. The day GNR are universally accepted as something your mom and grandma can all enjoy, will be a very dark day for rock n' roll.

"Led Zeppelin didn't make tunes that everyone liked - they left that to the Bee Gees".

Exactly this is what separates GnR from the likes of U2 or Bon Jovi, and no I'm not comparing U2 or Bon Jovi in terms of musical style but rather their appeal.? U2 and Bon Jovi make "safe" music that's inoffensive.? GnR has always had more of an edge to them and a certain element that scares away a portion of the fanbase for bands like U2 and Bon Jovi.? Fuck appeasing everyone

I couldnt have said it "better" 

[loretian]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

I don't understand why you think Better is not a instant hit.   It's a straight, pure rock song, taking all sorts of elements and blending them into perfection.  It's way more catchy than IRS (at least, in the demo forms we have), for any sort of large, mainstream audience.

[marknroses]

It doesn't matter whose opinion matters on these boards regarding "Better."
On the business end, it matters a whole lot to the financial future of GNR & Sanctuary's $13-15 million investment.
I'm of the opinion that its appropriate for an album of "GNR" songs, but not as a single, particularly the first.

I still believe the 1st single is something we haven't heard yet. I don't know why, but I have a hunch.
You can never predict what GNR/Axl will do.
MNW

[PeterCoffin]

The band needs a WORLDWIDE radio Hit. Something like "One" of U2, a song the entire world would fall in love with all over the world. An instant classic.

I don't understand why you think Better is not a instant hit.? ?It's a straight, pure rock song, taking all sorts of elements and blending them into perfection.? It's way more catchy than IRS (at least, in the demo forms we have), for any sort of large, mainstream audience.

I think Better is pure poprock - and I love it.

[Risico]

I'm still not quite convinced that Better will be the first single - But it's a good choice if it turns out to be true. It's got an edge and it's very, very catchy - rock stations will be all over it.

If it ever gets released to the public, that is.

[HamsterDemocracy]

I'm still not quite convinced that Better will be the first single - But it's a good choice if it turns out to be true. It's got an edge and it's very, very catchy - rock stations will be all over it.

If it ever gets released to the public, that is.

It's the first single.

Everything points to it.

I think it's a good song to introduce to the public, although I think TWAT is better from a fan's perspective.

[C0ma]

I found something interesting that may or may not have already been brought up.

Thursday, October 26 - Saturday, October 28, 2006 is the official Florida State H.O.G. (Harley Owners Group) Rally. The rally is being held in Ft. Myers Florida, which just so happens to be with in minutes of Estero... which just so happens to be the site of GnR's show on the 27th.

Could that rally somehow coincide with the launch of the Better commercial, single, and maybe even a release announcment...

[guns_n_motley]

I found something interesting that may or may not have already been brought up.

Thursday, October 26 - Saturday, October 28, 2006 is the official Florida State H.O.G. (Harley Owners Group) Rally. The rally is being held in Ft. Myers Florida, which just so happens to be with in minutes of Estero... which just so happens to be the site of GnR's show on the 27th.

Could that rally somehow coincide with the launch of the Better commercial, single, and maybe even a release announcment...

well, the commercial is supposed to debut in Late October, so it wouldnt be out of the question..

[HamsterDemocracy]

I found something interesting that may or may not have already been brought up.

Thursday, October 26 - Saturday, October 28, 2006 is the official Florida State H.O.G. (Harley Owners Group) Rally. The rally is being held in Ft. Myers Florida, which just so happens to be with in minutes of Estero... which just so happens to be the site of GnR's show on the 27th.

Could that rally somehow coincide with the launch of the Better commercial, single, and maybe even a release announcment...

I really doubt it...but nice observation. Could happen! At this point everything's speculation. 

[JeRrYFaR]

That is tomorrow.. interesting.. nice find on that..

[Journeyman]

I found something interesting that may or may not have already been brought up.

Thursday, October 26 - Saturday, October 28, 2006 is the official Florida State H.O.G. (Harley Owners Group) Rally. The rally is being held in Ft. Myers Florida, which just so happens to be with in minutes of Estero... which just so happens to be the site of GnR's show on the 27th.

Could that rally somehow coincide with the launch of the Better commercial, single, and maybe even a release announcment...

its a matter of hours now, and we'll find out. It would be great!

[TrixAreForKids]

I'm still not quite convinced that Better will be the first single - But it's a good choice if it turns out to be true. It's got an edge and it's very, very catchy - rock stations will be all over it.

If it ever gets released to the public, that is.

It's the first single.

Everything points to it.

I think it's a good song to introduce to the public, although I think TWAT is better from a fan's perspective.

Yup, and Axl had time to perfect live over the last 4 months. If I can't recall, I don't think it missed a set in Europe.

[Loco_motive]

This is very interesting to me, being a Milwaukee-based fan.? As most of you may know, HD is headquartered here in Milwaukee and the band plays here 11/29.? Too bad it wasn't 2003...
HD could've brought in GNR instead of Sir Elton John to play their 100th anniversary concert. Definitely would've been "better" received by the bikers!

[fnord]

anybody knows if the new "better" demo is the final mix, the one that is 11mo ?
It sounds more as a finished product, possibly the new single...