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I'm sure I'll get the 'hater' sticker for sayin' this but your example proves what the so called 'haters' or in reality the non-blinded-Axl-worshippers say. The restaurants will be doing good without you. If you are there, it's great, you work well and help them out. If you're not - then it's okay, they'll find someone else to do the job. Brain's presence is not essentail in the band and like you pointed out in your post: you and Brain are employees. Replecable and 'out-of-the-loop', other people decide the main things. No biggie, Brain can do a good job when he is on board, but the show can go on without him and nobody notice that he's not there, only a few Internet die-hards.
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Actually my point was that I am sure Axl , and GNR are not gonna hold it against him for doin stuff outside, see in my job Im only a waiter, and my job is to keep guest happy, Im not in management where if I worked for 2 companies that would be a serious ethical breach. BUt this is music, and Brain is a drummer, who has always been doin his thing, see this is why I would like to wait till CD comes out. I would find this only a problem if Brain is contributed to the writting process. And if so then there has to have been a clause or some agreement that would allow him to do anything outside GNR, while GNR are actually doin something. As for me, like I said Im just a waiter, basically a self contractor, people pay my salary not the "job".
If you called in sick at one restaurant and then worked at another, if word got back to the first one, you'd be fired. That's all.
that I agree with
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to me it is pretty simple:
Brain should choose his priorities.
If he chose to stay at home with his family and that is fine with GNR = i think it is very cool
BUT if he chose to stay at homr and playing gigs with whomever instead (even if it is a one off gig) = something is wrong in pardise....
Sorry, but that is not thew way it should be
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As long as GN'R are happy with this (thats if he is still in the band), thats fine with me, and should be fine with all of you.
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For all we know, this show with Praxis could have been scheduled a long time ago. Also, playing 1 show that is like an hour from home (by plane) is a whole lot different than being on the road for months on end. If Axl's cool with it, why are some of you acting like such pricks? Just so you have something else to bitch and moan about?
Cry me a river....
Seems to me his priorities ARE straight. Let's see, he chooses to stay at home with his wife and child- a child he helped create. Any decent parent knows, that first year is one you don't wanna miss. Ever think maybe he doesn't want to be gone for months on end, only to return home and have his kid not know who the fuck he is?Some things are more importnant than Guns N Fuckin Roses, and if you can't realize that, you need to get your head out of your ass and get back in touch with reality. For all we know, he could've had his family at this show with him. God forbid Brain agree to play a show with guys he's been friends with for 10+ years while he has time off. 1 weekend vs who knows how many months.
Obviously Axl knew about all of this all along, why else was Frank hired?
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You dont know why he played the show last night or why he isnt on tour with gnr. Untill we are told STOP speculating, you're just going to make the situation alot worse then it could be/is.
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This has to be the strangest thread title ever.
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I was there, good show, Tom Petty rocked
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i also would prefer brain to play with gn'r because he has such a uniqe drumming style which i find really interesting! and i agree that frank was off sometimes during europe when he first joined gn'r, but remember, he had TWO fuckin' soundchecks of practice before he was thrown to the lions. C'mon people, the man can play! AND he will get better and better for every show!
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Like I said, if Brain plays with gnr when they hit Cali and Reno then all is forgiven but if he doesnt, then I wonder if the people claiming its ok are going to chance their tune.
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Fuck It, Frank Plays the YCBM intro louder any way.
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Personally I think this is a positive thing. Maybe Axl and Buckethead have made peace and Axl knows how important Brain and Bucket's friendship is and he let him go to a few shows since Frank is capable of filling in. Feel the Love people!!!
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I like brain, the best drummer IMO GNR has ever had.
But if he calls out from GNR & plays with someone else, thats Moonlighting basicly.
we'll see if he plays more shows.
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Quote from: jimb0 on October 29, 2006, 10:59:24 AM
Fuck It, Frank Plays the YCBM intro louder any way.
YEAH!
I think Frank suits the old material better. And he's better on better too ?
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on October 29, 2006, 10:51:44 AM
Like I said, if Brain plays with gnr when they hit Cali and Reno then
all is forgiven
but if he doesnt, then I wonder if the people claiming its ok are going to chance their tune.
who the hell do you think you are .. axl? A member of gnr?
Brain played Vegoose and rocked Vegoose with Praxis. Why? Cause he has time off from GNR , it was a one off show with some of his best friends in a band that he's been a part of for many many years. It was a show that has been scheduled for quite some time and thankfully he was able to attend and indeed had the blessing of those who "pay the bills" ... lol
Everyday it seems you all are just looking for more AND more uneeded drama by looking too fucking deep into the most simple of situations. Whats next? Where does it end for some of you? This isnt the da vinci code ... it isnt some big whodunit mystery. It's a fucking rock band on tour about to release an album.
Brain is a member of GNR , right now he's getting some much deserved time off. But that doesnt mean he has to hide in house handcuffed to his newborn 24/7.
Besides , is WORSE came to worse .. gnr has a very capable drummer in frank who obviously is more then happy to be where he is.
p.s. , gnfnr2k (dave) ... I'll pass the message on to brain that if he drums with GNR in Cali and Reno that he will be "forgiven" by you personally. I'm sure that will get him motivated to jump right up there!
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Quote from: chineseblues on October 29, 2006, 09:43:14 AM
You dont know why he played the show last night or why he isnt on tour with gnr. Untill we are told STOP speculating, you're just going to make the situation alot worse then it could be/is.
we're not going to be told anything .. and why should we? It's none of our buisness. Atleast I dont feel it's any of mine. I'm sure I wont be emailing merck to ask whats up , unlike a bunch messageboard journalists we have here.
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Back in the day if Slash wasn't on guitar for the first few shows people would ask why, man.
When Adler was out with the arm people knew why. Cinderella's drummer (or whoever it was) just didn't pop up behind the kit with no explanation.
That being said, I don't wanna know myself. Take a long long well deserved break Brain.
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Quote from: the dirt on October 29, 2006, 11:14:58 AM
Back in the day if Slash wasn't on guitar for the first few shows people would ask why, man.
When Adler was out with the arm people knew why. Cinderella's drummer (or whoever it was) just didn't pop up behind the kit with no explanation.
That being said, I don't wanna know myself. Take a long long well deserved break Brain.
for the love of god .. just 2 days ago Mysteron posted a thread saying Brain has time off becuse of the newborn. Jarmo has posted the same and also Jarmo has posted that managment has TOLD him BOTH Frank and Brain are members of GNR. What more do people need , Brain to come to their house and change their diapers and tuck them in the crib just to prove he's really a father? Do they need a photocopy of his contract with GNR just to prove he's a really a member?
Brain played one show , a short 45 minute set , close to home , with some very close friends who he probably hardly ever see's these days in one of his first bands. Yeah , shame on you Mr.Mantia. Shame on you!
gnfnr2k might forgive him but I never will. Never ever ever.
Guns are ruined because of this. The sky is falling and all that jazz.
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Since when does a band member need certain fans' approval of who they play with, when and where?
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leave it alone people.
we are to early in to the tour to worry about this.
what's important is that we have a substitue, brain is still in the band, and the tour is still on (with only 2 shows rescheudled).
If brain doesnt play a single show before the album gets released than I'll be a little mad, but so far I think its as usual.
this only proves that the band could have played the 2004 RIR4, but there just wasnt enough will to do it, since everybody in the band can be replaced in a short notice, just as brain was replaced in just a few weeks time, and bumblefoot joined the band only 10 days before the may shows, so could have buckethead been replaced in 2004, with moths to spare, since he left the ?band 2-3 months prior to the show.
did anyone think of the possibility that the first 2 shows were rescheudled because of brain taking the time off?
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Quote from: the dirt on October 29, 2006, 11:14:58 AM
Back in the day if Slash wasn't on guitar for the first few shows people would ask why, man.
When Adler was out with the arm people knew why. Cinderella's drummer (or whoever it was) just didn't pop up behind the kit with no explanation.
That being said, I don't wanna know myself. Take a long long well deserved break Brain.
but this isnt back i the day. and brain isnt steven, and he certainly isnt slash.
theres different strokes for different follks (particularly whereas drummrs are concerned) and the fact that brain isnt there really means fuck all. people are there (concerts) firstly for the tunes and secondly for axl. i'd be shocked if anyone bar brains mother returned their ticket because the drummer they wanted isnt playing.
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