looks like ads are not allowed now either

[mahimahi23]

Anybody else getting a bit concerned?? First RS, now ?? Two credible sources just happen to post things "too early"?? Maybe they arent early, something is wrong and they dont want all this promotion and then album get delayed.

This is really getting strange, AND stupid. Why would they care they we hear a 30 second clip of a song we have already heard the leaked version of?? Think about it.

[estranged.1098]

I guess GNR needs jarmo to run and youtube.com as well.?

I'm sure nobody is posting things too early. This is what GNR wants.

[Bono]

That's really fucking lame. What forum can we go to and read about this thing. A new song shows up in an add(that's what the title of the thread suggets but I can't read it) And it's treated like a damn plague. ARE WE EVEN GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE ALBUM WHEN IT COMES OUT!!?? Either management are just being complete idiots and have a lot of nerve to ask Jarmo to remove these things or they are trying to avoid a huge shit storm because the album isn't coming out and they don't want any promo whatsoever.  There's no communication with the fans at this point and it's a huge fucking slap in the face to the people who have supported this band for so long. Anyone who says otherwise is a damn minion of the band and has no ability to see things with perspective.

[jarmo]

ARE WE EVEN GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE ALBUM WHEN IT COMES OUT!!??

Probably not if it leaks too early.




/jarmo

[anythinggoes]

Fuck it people Enjoy the ride this is the exciting part

[KIKO2K6]

ARE WE EVEN GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE ALBUM WHEN IT COMES OUT!!??

Probably not if it leaks too early.




/jarmo

I understand completely your position Jarmo, but you know that situation sucks. 

[Bono]

ARE WE EVEN GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE ALBUM WHEN IT COMES OUT!!??

Probably not if it leaks too early.




/jarmo

This is pretty much bullshit Jarmo. managemnet seems to be taking huge advantage of you at the moment. It's damnaging the credibility of this site as a front runner for legit Gn'R news. Who gives a damn if the add leaked "too early" or the album leaks. It's breaking Gn'R news one way or the other. It's happend , it's done and ?It's asinine for managemnt to ask that we not discuss leaks or lyrics to new songs or adds that ran "too early" or anything else like that. Not posting links is acceptable but saying what we can and can't discuss is way over the line and pretty insulting to the fans. ?Are the benifits recievd from being tight with management even worth this crap? I don't know what all the perks are but I know the presales aren't worth this.

[BurningHills]

I would not want to be in your position right now, Jarmo. Hopefully Merck will make it up for you down the line..

[pasnow]

But I don't see that the commercial "leaked", isn't it posted on website!! ?

[anythinggoes]

I would not want to be in your position right now, Jarmo. Hopefully Merck will make it up for you down the line..

Eh did you not know Jarmo is Merck isnt it obvious 

[WhatIsItMan]

Ok, Jarmo... ?Cough up the copy of Chinese Democracy... ?

[anythinggoes]

But I don't see that the commercial "leaked", isn't it posted on HD's website!! ?

They put it out too early is what Jarmo is saying

I think

[Sober_times]

I would not want to be in your position right now, Jarmo. Hopefully Merck will make it up for you down the line..

He shouldn't have too, because he should have never asked for it not be discussed. Like Bono said, not posting links is one thing, not allowing discussion is a whole different ball game. If it comes too early we wont be able to discuss the album? Wow. That fucking sucks. ?

[mahimahi23]

will not take this add down, I promise you that. And I dont believe it leaked "early", I think something else is going on. What, I dont really know, but something is up. I dont see why they would care about a 30 second commercial clip that we have already heard the leaked song of. Had this been a "new" unheard GNR song, then maybe I could understand, but anyone thats a GNR fan has most likely heard Better, so I dont see the problem.

[jarmo]

With all the recent events and the tour starting in a few days, it's kinda obvious something's going on.

That's good news.


Just be patient and I'm sure we'll have plenty to talk about when the time is right.

Who gives a damn if the add leaked "too early" or the album leaks.

I do, since I believe the artist has the right to decide when the listeners can listen to their material.


If the band plays new songs live in concert, we can talk about them. If the whole album leaks, we'll make sure not to talk about them until they're legally available for purchase. That's my personal opinion.




/jarmo

[russtcb]

HD will not take this add down, I promise you that. And I dont believe it leaked "early", I think something else is going on. What, I dont really know, but something is up. I dont see why they would care about a 30 second commercial clip that we have already heard the leaked song of. Had this been a "new" unheard GNR song, then maybe I could understand, but anyone thats a GNR fan has most likely heard Better, so I dont see the problem.

It's definately a better mix of the song (obviously the final) and there's certainly a little different guitar work in that final verse.

Maybe we're not meant to hear that stuff yet.

[pasnow]

Maybe we're not meant to hear that stuff yet.

Anyway, Jarmo just curious do you know if GnR is trying to get HD to pull the ad for a few days, or is it up there to stay..

[Sober_times]

With all the recent events and the tour starting in a few days, it's kinda obvious something's going on.

That's good news.


Just be patient and I'm sure we'll have plenty to talk about when the time is right.

Who gives a damn if the add leaked "too early" or the album leaks.

I do, since I believe the artist has the right to decide when the listeners can listen to their material.


If the band plays new songs live in concert, we can talk about them. If the whole album leaks, we'll make sure not to talk about them until they're legally available for purchase. That's my personal opinion.




/jarmo

what changed your mind since the demos leaked?? I dont see how its any different than that. Discussions about leaked material has been going on for years, and now all of sudden you cant do it. It just sux is all. Im not trying to take a shot, just trying to vent the frustraion of it, you can see that right? why we would be flustered? I may have been posting here for years, but i have visted here for many years and i like your site. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and wait it out a little long and now try to hold back my flustration towards you, but as of right now the management of that band can kiss my ass. ?

[jarmo]

Well, personally i think the leaks happened when there was nothing going on and the songs weren't finished album tracks.

Now if the album, or parts of it leak, it's a different situation.

It would mean something meant to be sold had leaked. That's different.


That's why I think talking about live tracks is fine.



/jarmo

[charlie31]

Maybe management thinks HTGTH is the only GNR forum in the world? I check that you can found links to Commercial in chinesedemocarcy.com, newgnr.com, talkingmetal.com, blabbermouth, ant these are the only four i've visited. What happens with HTGTH? It was the best GNR forum 'til Rolling Stone affair, but, now....... hmmmmmmmm, well.