TO: Those who are attacking Jarmo about the RS thing

[//JK75]

Some of us wasn't even here when it happened and I was wondering what was all this about.
I don't really understand why we can't discuss it ! Someone please explain it to me !

This is a serious magazine with a little news, nothing big I think so, so WTF ?
 

[mahimahi23]

Im never complained about the article. I think its silly we cant discuss it, but so be it. My problem was the way it was handled at first. The thread and news got deleted, all threads and posts on it were deleted, and then when someone made a thread about it in the Admin section Jarmo wouldnt tell us jack shit as to why, nothing.

All we wanted was to know why, simply say "management asked us not to discuss it" would have been fine, but to do that and not tell anyone anything, and post vague posts in that thread is what got everyone pissed.

That was my only problem about it, cant speak for everyone.

[Robman?]

Im never complained about the article. I think its silly we cant discuss it, but so be it. My problem was the way it was handled at first. The thread and news got deleted, all threads and posts on it were deleted, and then when someone made a thread about it in the Admin section Jarmo wouldnt tell us jack shit as to why, nothing.

All we wanted was to know why, simply say "management asked us not to discuss it" would have been fine, but to do that and not tell anyone anything, and post vague posts in that thread is what got everyone pissed.

That was my only problem about it, cant speak for everyone.

well said, my exact problem

[DunkinDave]

At the upcoming shows, we should all hold up signs that say

"Sorry", Axl!

[scar2d2w]

i'm a new member here, but i've been following threads for a long time now.  the people on this board are all really devoted fans, and you can't blame us for being a bit frustrated when stuff is kind of dangled in front of us, only to be taken away again.

[Danny]

Let's pretend Axl got arrested for having child pronaography on his hard drive. ?Would news of this be deleted if management asked that it isn't discussed?

I know...that's pretty extreme. ?I personally don't think that this is a freedom of speech issue. ?This is a private board owned and run by a private party. ?Technically, Jarmo's decision to follow management's request is him expressing his freedom of speech. ?However, it would have been nice (in my humble opinion) to get a bit more of an explanation. ?Something along the lines of "management asked me to remove all posts regarding this subject, but for a good reason that we'll all be happy about soon". ?The fact that there is NOT some cryptic message in Jarmo's note to us all leds me to believe that all is not good in the GNR caamp and that this is bad news.

Regardless, I've spent more time over on that shitty "other board" in the last 24 hours than I ever have before.


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[Robman?]

Let's pretend Axl got arrested for having child pronaography on his hard drive. ?Would news of this be deleted if management asked that it isn't discussed?

I know...that's pretty extreme. ?I personally don't think that this is a freedom of speech issue. ?This is a private board owned and run by a private party. ?Technically, Jarmo's decision to follow management's request is him expressing his freedom of speech. ?However, it would have been nice (in my humble opinion) to get a bit more of an explanation. ?Something along the lines of "management asked me to remove all posts regarding this subject, but for a good reason that we'll all be happy about soon". ?The fact that there is NOT some cryptic message in Jarmo's note to us all leds me to believe that all is not good in the GNR caamp and that this is bad news.

Regardless, I've spent more time over on that shitty "other board" in the last 24 hours than I ever have before.


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I'm not a member of that "shitty 'other board" as you put it, and i hope i won't have to be. I guess i have faith in the fact that all will be explained soon.

[vicarious existence]

Hmm I just thought of something. Hasn't Merck said a couple of times that when there is a big announcement to make or there is big news, EVERYONE will know about it at the same time? Maybe he's trying to keep us from seeing something because he doesn't want us to get a jump on it. Rather he wants the whole world to know at once, not just the hardcore fans. Just a thought.

[Robman?]

Hmm I just thought of something. Hasn't Merck said a couple of times that when there is a big announcement to make or there is big news, EVERYONE will know about it at the same time? Maybe he's trying to keep us from seeing something because he doesn't want us to get a jump on it. Rather he wants the whole world to know at once, not just the hardcore fans. Just a thought.

maybe a big massive world press release on the same day. Who knows, it could be tomorrow, or every other day between now and late December for that matter.

[Bostonrose]

No one discuss the BIG PINK ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM...
NO DON'T TALK ABOUT THE ARTICLE...what article...who? huh?  what 

[Naupis]

Hmm I just thought of something. Hasn't Merck said a couple of times that when there is a big announcement to make or there is big news, EVERYONE will know about it at the same time? Maybe he's trying to keep us from seeing something because he doesn't want us to get a jump on it. Rather he wants the whole world to know at once, not just the hardcore fans. Just a thought.

Again, if it weren't the front page of a site getting millions of hits a day that might make sense. It is not a leak though, as it has Merck quotes in it. There is no good explanation for why he tells Jarmo to shield his board members when RS gets however many million visitors daily.

[Jaci_Roxx]

Hmm I just thought of something. Hasn't Merck said a couple of times that when there is a big announcement to make or there is big news, EVERYONE will know about it at the same time? Maybe he's trying to keep us from seeing something because he doesn't want us to get a jump on it. Rather he wants the whole world to know at once, not just the hardcore fans. Just a thought.

Again, if it weren't the front page of a site getting millions of hits a day that might make sense. It is not a leak though, as it has Merck quotes in it. There is no good explanation for why he tells Jarmo to shield his board members when RS gets however many million visitors daily.

Maybe it's a suprise 

[//JK75]

I think this is the first time I see HTGTH hiding news (a finger tryin to hide the sun)... not gossip... a serious magazine article.

Is GNR and HTGTH banning RS ?
this whole thing is very strange, but exciting ! 

[Poof!]

The problem isn't that they don't want us to talk about it, the problem is that they are trying to deny people the human right to free speech. If Merck doesn't want people to talk about his statements, then don't fucking make them. If he has a problem with an article being false or misleading, then approach the source instead of trying to stifle the public (the fans). I'll fucking challenge anyone who'd like to take a swing at my rights. I am an adult who can discuss whatever I very well feel like as long as it's not in a derogatory and/or threatening manner. I don't care if there's a "good reason" why the article shouldn't be discussed, it still does not give anyone the right to say I am not allowed to talk about something I read in a published article. And if HTGTH decides to comply with these ludicrous demands and impose such an insult onto its community, then count me out.

Chinese Democracy, indeed.

[Ak1nney]

It is Jarmo's forum, and if he feels he needs to not display this stuff at this point in time, then it's his decision and right.

[dangnr]

this is the best site for anything guns n roses even better than the gunsnroses.com.  Were lucky to have it cheers!

[Bono]

Great forum, professionally run, give and take situation with management, Jarmo is in a tough spot at times but the benifits seem to be worth it, at least for now.  This is all true but it's not Gn'R related. so consitency is key. A thread can't stay here simply because it's dedicated to cutting Jarmo slack. No offence Jarmo. It's just that too many relevant threads have been deleted for reasons unknown, yet obviously reasons none the less. This belongs in the Admin feedback section.

[Loaded NightraiN]

Great forum, professionally run, give and take situation with management, Jarmo is in a tough spot at times but the benifits seem to be worth it, at least for now.? This is all true but it's not Gn'R related. so consitency is key. A thread can't stay here simply because it's dedicated to cutting Jarmo slack. No offence Jarmo. It's just that too many relevant threads have been deleted for reasons unknown, yet obviously reasons none the less. This belongs in the Admin feedback section.

This guy always tells it like it is... If I didnt know better, i'd say you're the real Bono! 

[WhatIsItMan]

Perhaps there is something in the article that doesn't apply to HTGTH board members?   

[flickn]

The article reported supposedly album ( rumor )drop date, suppose merck didnt want it posted because of that ?



this board is very nice , buy why would a mangaer to Axl Rose tell jarmo to do something every five minutes ? Is this board payed for by Merck in some way , perhaps, but deleting a thread every five minutes , would only get people curisosity even higher.Like if mom told me not to smoke or drink beer so many times and I did just to volt against her.