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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2006, 01:30:50 AM »

Aside from Coma, I think this is GNR's most "lyrically packed" song...  I think it'd be difficult for any singer to pull off live without forgetting an entire verse or two.

...And just my opinion, but aside from the chorus, there's nothing particularly memorable about it - Just kinda one long rant (albeit a well-written one).

Nothing memorable... yet someone above you just said that it's one of the best songs GnR ever did.  So in fact, while your opinion counts in some degree, by the sheer fact that someone thinks it's one of the best, must mean it IS memorable.

Plus, I agree with him.  Don't Damn Me is one of the most obscenely awesome tunes to come out of GnR... hands down.  It rocks.  Not just the chorus.  Jeeeez.

Yeah, I realize that I'm in the minority. I just think there's too much there - I love Axl's lyrics for the most part, but on the UYI albums he definitely could've used some restraint.

Songs like DDM, Right Next Door to Hell, and Coma just don't have the balance of the AFD/CD lyrics.
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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2006, 01:37:24 AM »

right next door to hell rocked that shit live..and so did perfect crime...garden of eden would have been badass live too...and one in a million was played 2 times..cbgbs in 1987 and at the limelight in 1988.......
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2006, 04:23:38 AM »

I don't remember where, but some years ago I read, that Axl felt that the song didn't needed to be played live. It speaks for itself!
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2006, 04:35:40 AM »

Yeah, I realize that I'm in the minority. I just think there's too much there - I love Axl's lyrics for the most part, but on the UYI albums he definitely could've used some restraint.

Songs like DDM, Right Next Door to Hell, and Coma just don't have the balance of the AFD/CD lyrics.

Wadya mean by that? There's plenty of sleazy/cheesy lyrics on appetite. Take "Think About You" for instance.
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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2006, 04:36:21 AM »

The only songs (originals) that were NEVER performed live are :

- Don't Damn Me
- Shotgun Blues
- My World (was played over the pa as intro and outro though)
- Get In The Ring (except for the chanting at Saratoga '91 of course)

EVERY other song on AFD, Lies and UYI was performed at least once .
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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2006, 05:12:49 AM »

Strikes me that the obvious way to do it - because there aren't many pauses for breath in the song - would be to do it as a duet, alternating lines like in Axl n' Baz's version of My Michelle...

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« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2006, 05:59:21 AM »

"Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?" Undecided

I'm wondering that question too... because it's a great raw song, and it's the only song in the UYI albums that has the "ILLUSION" word sang on it beer beer beer beer

Wrong ^^

You can see the bad rehearsing Bad Apples on the Toyko DVDs. Maybe its a song they rehearsed as a band but never chose to play it live.
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« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2006, 06:38:49 AM »

"Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?" Undecided

I'm wondering that question too... because it's a great raw song, and it's the only song in the UYI albums that has the "ILLUSION" word sang on it beer beer beer beer

Wrong ^^

You can see the bad rehearsing Bad Apples on the Toyko DVDs. Maybe its a song they rehearsed as a band but never chose to play it live.


What's your point? Bad Apples does'nt have the word "illusion" or "illusions" in it.
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« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2006, 06:49:14 AM »

Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?

er, becuse the track is no good. It's a filler track, as we spoke about some days ago now  peace
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« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2006, 07:06:18 AM »

I don't remember where, but some years ago I read, that Axl felt that the song didn't needed to be played live. It speaks for itself!

Ding ding ding. Same reason as Get In The Ring. He said the song speaks for itself. TO be honest, I think that's bullshit, because what song doesn't speal for itself? I think it's more because it's just a rant and he didn't want to keep making it or something.
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« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2006, 07:14:16 AM »

"Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?" Undecided

I'm wondering that question too... because it's a great raw song, and it's the only song in the UYI albums that has the "ILLUSION" word sang on it beer beer beer beer

Wrong ^^

You can see the bad rehearsing Bad Apples on the Toyko DVDs. Maybe its a song they rehearsed as a band but never chose to play it live.


What's your point? Bad Apples does'nt have the word "illusion" or "illusions" in it.

I didnt say it did...

The word "wrong" and the rest of the body of the text are in different paragraphs which reveals they arent related. Wrong relates to the above quote and then the next paragrah is a new point. Thats how paragraphs work  Roll Eyes

The word illusion is in LOCOMOTIVE as well as DDM.
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« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2006, 07:22:31 AM »

"Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?" Undecided

I'm wondering that question too... because it's a great raw song, and it's the only song in the UYI albums that has the "ILLUSION" word sang on it beer beer beer beer

Wrong ^^

You can see the bad rehearsing Bad Apples on the Toyko DVDs. Maybe its a song they rehearsed as a band but never chose to play it live.


What's your point? Bad Apples does'nt have the word "illusion" or "illusions" in it.

I didnt say it did...

The word "wrong" and the rest of the body of the text are in different paragraphs which reveals they arent related. Wrong relates to the above quote and then the next paragrah is a new point. Thats how paragraphs work? Roll Eyes

The word illusion is in LOCOMOTIVE as well as DDM.


So what's your point? What were you refering to as wrong, and why the need to mention bad apples?
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« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2006, 07:37:33 AM »

"Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?" Undecided

I'm wondering that question too... because it's a great raw song, and it's the only song in the UYI albums that has the "ILLUSION" word sang on it beer beer beer beer

Wrong ^^

You can see the bad rehearsing Bad Apples on the Toyko DVDs. Maybe its a song they rehearsed as a band but never chose to play it live.


What's your point? Bad Apples does'nt have the word "illusion" or "illusions" in it.

I didnt say it did...

The word "wrong" and the rest of the body of the text are in different paragraphs which reveals they arent related. Wrong relates to the above quote and then the next paragrah is a new point. Thats how paragraphs work? Roll Eyes

The word illusion is in LOCOMOTIVE as well as DDM.


So what's your point? What were you refering to as wrong, and why the need to mention bad apples?

Do you speak english? Am I missing something? I thought posts were allowed to contain more than one phrase, paragraph or point.

Someone else mentioned Bad apples and I added they probably used it to rehearse as its featured on the tokyo dvds.... its really not rocket science...
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« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2006, 07:59:17 AM »

Oh i love it when you get all masterful kriss_boy  love! Not rocket science? Too true. Lucky for both of us eh? I shouldnta said that tho, as soon some smartass will point out that the basic principles of rocket science are relatively simple.  beer
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« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2006, 08:53:26 AM »

Still doesnt explain how you had difficulty differentiating between two different paragraphs and their simple contexts? Roll Eyes

i dont wana agrue, truce buddy?

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« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2006, 09:09:13 AM »

"Why wasn't Don't Damn Me ever played live?" Undecided

I'm wondering that question too... because it's a great raw song, and it's the only song in the UYI albums that has the "ILLUSION" word sang on it beer beer beer beer

geeez... Shocked I'been living a liar (GN'R LIES!!) trough all this time, seriously, never realized the Locomotive part! rofl hihi maybe because I always skip it to the end part  peace

oh, and krissboy, don't worry, I've understood your "double" post perfectly ok
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« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2006, 09:18:06 AM »

Bad Apples was played live twice. At Rock In Rio II and the second UYI Tour warm-up gig.
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« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2006, 09:44:39 AM »

Still doesnt explain how you had difficulty differentiating between two different paragraphs and their simple contexts? Roll Eyes

i dont wana agrue, truce buddy?

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Oh I intended my last post as a kind of truce offering, and I'm sorry if it did'nt come across that way, it was maybe a bit too sarcastic. But you are quite right, i just had'nt read the previous posts quite as well as I thought I had  beer
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« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2006, 09:51:26 AM »

I bet theres not one definitive reason, but many that lead to not a concious disregard of DDM, but rather made it impractical to play it. ?The fact that they toured on a double album and had "hits" from appetite, lies, and then UYI to play, and then had 30 new songs to work in, they had to pick and choose. ?Also they may have been planning on working it in later during the UYI2, but from reports Axl never wanted to rehearse so i bet they didnt have time to rehearse such a complex song. ?Also the song is complex, neither the guitar dont nor the vocals are easy and need to be highly insynch to sound good. ?Also the lyrics come fast and might be hard for Axl to remember in the middle or end of the show. ?Also I notice that steve lank is listed as a cowriter in some places, I assume its probably jsut a line or something that has to do with his artwork, but maybe there was some falling out there. ?I doubt thats the case, and it mostly just dealt with the inconvenience that performing the song live would cause.
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« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2006, 10:11:40 AM »

For those who didnt know DDM was a song slash brought from a previous band. But I guess most of you guys knew that.

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