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« on: October 13, 2006, 08:52:14 AM »

I am looking for a sound close as possable to Slash.

I have been playing for several years now.  I like my Epiphone LP that I have.  I am looking for a amp and a distortion pedal.  I currently have a Crate GX-15, which does not have the line in for CD.  I also have the Digitech Rp-50.  I just can not seem to get the right sound out of it.

Here is my situation.  I need it to be very cost effective.  I need it to have a line in for CD.(I like playing along with the music.)  I do not need something loud, since I ussually have headphones on. 

Any suggestions are welcomed.
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 09:03:59 AM »

what do you mean no line in? like for the distortion pedal? can't you just make a loop?

anyway i sugesst checking out the line6 spider II 30 and Roland Cube30x i loved the cube30 but the spider II was pretty cool and it was soo cheap, i liked the marshall MG30 as well

also try setting your amp to these settings (I dunno how good they are i just came across them online the other day)

Gain - 6.5
Treble - 4.5
Mid - 7
Bass - 7
Presence ? 8

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Gain - 6
Bass - 4
Mids - 7-8
Treble - 10
Reverb - 2
Pickup - Neck
Tone Knob - 4.5
 
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Overdriven Tone:
Presence: 7
Bass: 7,
Mid: 4.5
Treble: 7
Output Master: 6 (rhythm)
Lead Master: 10 (lead)
Gain : 6.5

Clean Tone:
Presence: 0
Bass: 9
Mid: 3
Treble: 5 1/2
Output Master: 10
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 09:06:21 AM »

What's ur budget?
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 09:18:49 AM »

Not alot.  Like $200 total.  Keep in mind I play for myself with headphones on most of the time so a to not wake my daughter at night.

I am liking the look of the Marshall MG15MSII (microstack).  I am not sure of the sound though.  I can get it for a good price somewhere.

Thanks for the suggestions Neemo.  The Roland looks cool.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2006, 09:30:37 AM »

Not alot.? Keep in mind I play for myself with headphones on most of the time so a to not wake my daughter at night.

yeah the Line6 SpiderII 30 is $159 @ musiciansfriend.com and it's got 6 effects & programable presets and you can buy a footswitch that turns on effects switches presets and has a Wah....very versatile little thing yes one of the presets (Crunch) mimics a '68 Marshall Plexi 100w amp which is close to slash's sound and www.line6.com has settings for WTTJ also the wesite has streaming clips to check out what the amp sounds like http://www.line6.com/spiderii/sounds02.html

anyway i just bought this thing felt it was the right amp for me
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 10:03:25 AM »

Slash sound is basically: SD Alnico Pro II pickups + Gibson LP + Marshall JCM tube. Of course a lot of other factors influence the sound, but that's the basic setup. If u have stock pups change them. A nice sounding tube amp ( Epiphone Valve Junior, Fender Blues) should suffice. Might exceed $200 slightly. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2006, 08:49:37 PM »

I agree with the person who told you to get the Line 6 SpiderII amp.  That fucking thing is amazing and it's super cheap.  My best friend has one and at first I was like this thing is gonna be shit, but I played it and was blown away.  I'm getting one myself and trust me, you will not be dissappointed with it.  It has the effects built right in and there's a very similar sounding Slash-ish tone we got out of a Strat being played into it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2006, 08:41:16 AM »

Thanks for the suggestions Neemo.? The Roland looks cool.

no prob man, just let us know what you get yes
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2006, 06:54:27 PM »

Slash doesnt use distortion
youll always have a shitty sound from shitty amps
save up
get a tube amp and dial in slash's settings from snakepit.net
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2006, 08:03:49 AM »

Keep in mind I play for myself with headphones on most of the time so a to not wake my daughter at night.

That will not be possible with most tube amps, so I suggest u go with what others suggested.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2006, 09:16:07 AM »

OK, my budget has been revised.  I am looking for something a little nicer.  I am looking to stay under $600 for an amp.

I DO NOT PLAY GIGS.  I use this to jam in my home.  Most of the time I use headphones, but I occasionally play with out.  I would like it to have a CD in also.

I am thinking the Marshall AVT50, myself.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2007, 07:46:22 AM »

My opinion 'bout marshall amps is that they're not very good when it comes to jaming at home at lower volumes, they need just like most amps a lot of volume to show of their capacity, go for the line 6 or maybe a smaller vox.

thats just what I think.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2007, 08:49:50 AM »

there is a current guitar mag out there that has a big article on amps it runs down like 6 differnet ones....but if you just play at home i'd just go with maybe a 50-75w amp and maybe a footboard. like you could go for the roland cube60 for about $350 @ musciansfriend then get a digitec shortboard for about $100 - $200

BUT.......musician's freind has this for $599US, Marshall MG100 halfstack drool



http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MG100HDFXMG412-Slant-Cab-Half-Stack-Package?sku=482807

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2007, 02:22:02 PM »

Anyone have any thoughts on the Vox Valvetronic series of amps?
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2007, 11:40:15 PM »

Anyone have any thoughts on the Vox Valvetronic series of amps?

They are quite good actually. Have the line out / headphone features that u want. Sound quite decent, except the distortion (which I thought sucked). I might go for one myself since the tube amps I wanted are not available where I live.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2007, 12:16:54 AM »

Anyone have any thoughts on the Vox Valvetronic series of amps?

They are quite good actually. Have the line out / headphone features that u want. Sound quite decent, except the distortion (which I thought sucked). I might go for one myself since the tube amps I wanted are not available where I live.

I have 2, the AD15VT and the AD30VT - you will have to by some kind of effect to go with it, because I can never get mine to scream, not even on high volumes, without some kind of a distortion pedal.



there is a current guitar mag out there that has a big article on amps it runs down like 6 differnet ones....but if you just play at home i'd just go with maybe a 50-75w amp and maybe a footboard. like you could go for the roland cube60 for about $350 @ musciansfriend then get a digitec shortboard for about $100 - $200

BUT.......musician's freind has this for $599US, Marshall MG100 halfstack drool



http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MG100HDFXMG412-Slant-Cab-Half-Stack-Package?sku=482807



Holy shit!!! $600?!?!?!

I'm not an expert on Marshall amps, since I've always used VOX - is this a good deal? Is it a decent stack and head?

I looking into getting a Marshall stack of some kind, I wasn't gonna get one now, but is the deal too good to pass up? what would it usually cost?
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2007, 12:22:23 AM »

I'm not an expert on Marshall amps, since I've always used VOX - is this a good deal? Is it a decent stack and head?

I looking into getting a Marshall stack of some kind, I wasn't gonna get one now, but is the deal too good to pass up? what would it usually cost?

The MG series suck. Please spare yourself the trouble.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2007, 12:28:32 AM »

I'm not an expert on Marshall amps, since I've always used VOX - is this a good deal? Is it a decent stack and head?

I looking into getting a Marshall stack of some kind, I wasn't gonna get one now, but is the deal too good to pass up? what would it usually cost?

The MG series suck. Please spare yourself the trouble.

 hihi I just realized it was an mg

I remember their infamous crapyness.

what series is the best?
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2007, 03:43:34 AM »

what series is the best?

Barring their older models, I'd say the JCMs are the best, esp. the 800. But those are expensive.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2007, 10:03:53 AM »

Thanks for the info.

I plan on saving up for a while, like maybe a year or two  hihi

I'll have to research them a lot first. Thanks again. ok
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