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« on: October 11, 2006, 02:52:13 AM »

i know most of you will say slash, blah,blah blah, BUT i think Izzy was the most important member in Guns besides Axl.
what do you all think?
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2006, 02:58:35 AM »

agree!!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2006, 03:01:12 AM »

i'd say Izzy too, but i know we are a minority here.
Izzy is not just a guitar player but also a great songwriter.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2006, 03:03:34 AM »

I think, we don't know enough of the inner dynamics of the band.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 03:08:46 AM »

If Slash really did come up with all those great guitar licks and solos, then he'd definitely be ahead of Izzy on my list. Slash's intro to SCOM is probably more well-known in the music world than even Axl's signature voice.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 03:18:23 AM »

What a question.  Of course it's Slash.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 03:23:01 AM »

it was on izzy's ideas that slash and axl were able to project themselves.....duff and steven helped to make inmortal.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2006, 03:25:12 AM »

Pitman
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2006, 03:26:45 AM »

Pitman

Pitman left?Huh Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2006, 03:30:44 AM »

Yeah, he left multiple times, thats why CD is taking so long... no pitman, no album.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2006, 03:32:06 AM »

Damn, if that's true, I'm torn... I mean, I would like to see an album eventually, but no pitman... sounds sooo tempting...
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2006, 03:36:03 AM »

Its a ridiculous debate.. whose more important .. Izzy or slash... Slash single handled invented 90% of the solos and riffs which defined GnR. Jeez, people only say Izzy is better than slash to try and sound cool.. like they know something we all dont.

Compare Izzys solo stuff to slashs... Nuff said!!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2006, 03:38:37 AM »

Its a ridiculous debate.. whose more important .. Izzy or slash... Slash single handled invented 90% of the solos and riffs which defined GnR. Jeez, people only say Izzy is better than slash to try and sound cool.. like they know something we all dont.

Compare Izzys solo stuff to slashs... Nuff said!!!

Izzy helped write some great stuff for GN'R, but I agree about Slash creating so many memorable riffs and solos. Like I said before, the intro to SCOM is more recognizable amongst the general music audience than Axl's voice (and that IS saying something because Axl has a very distinctive voice).
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2006, 03:40:02 AM »

Its a ridiculous debate.. whose more important .. Izzy or slash... Slash single handled invented 90% of the solos and riffs which defined GnR. Jeez, people only say Izzy is better than slash to try and sound cool.. like they know something we all dont.

Compare Izzys solo stuff to slashs... Nuff said!!!
guitar players are a dime a dozen compaired to good song writters like izzy.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 03:43:24 AM »

Its a ridiculous debate.. whose more important .. Izzy or slash... Slash single handled invented 90% of the solos and riffs which defined GnR. Jeez, people only say Izzy is better than slash to try and sound cool.. like they know something we all dont.

Compare Izzys solo stuff to slashs... Nuff said!!!
guitar players are a dime a dozen compaired to good song writters like izzy.

OK, I'm really tired from staying up too late. But I think I'm still coherent enough to recognize an idiotic statement when I see one. The above quote certainly qualifies as an idiotic statement. Slash a "dime a dozen" guitar player? ROFLMFAO!
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 03:48:10 AM »

Its a ridiculous debate.. whose more important .. Izzy or slash... Slash single handled invented 90% of the solos and riffs which defined GnR. Jeez, people only say Izzy is better than slash to try and sound cool.. like they know something we all dont.

Compare Izzys solo stuff to slashs... Nuff said!!!
guitar players are a dime a dozen compaired to good song writters like izzy.

OK, I'm really tired from staying up too late. But I think I'm still coherent enough to recognize an idiotic statement when I see one. The above quote certainly qualifies as an idiotic statement. Slash a "dime a dozen" guitar player? ROFLMFAO!
you don't think guns  could cut without slash? well i think they could of had mick mars on guitar and still of sold the same amount of albums, thats just my opion though.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 03:56:12 AM »

mick mars interesting......izzy was to gnr what nikki sixx to the crue..
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2006, 03:58:06 AM »

mick mars interesting......izzy was to gnr what nikki sixx to the crue..
yeap i agree.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 03:58:25 AM »

Its a ridiculous debate.. whose more important .. Izzy or slash... Slash single handled invented 90% of the solos and riffs which defined GnR. Jeez, people only say Izzy is better than slash to try and sound cool.. like they know something we all dont.

Compare Izzys solo stuff to slashs... Nuff said!!!
guitar players are a dime a dozen compaired to good song writters like izzy.

OK, I'm really tired from staying up too late. But I think I'm still coherent enough to recognize an idiotic statement when I see one. The above quote certainly qualifies as an idiotic statement. Slash a "dime a dozen" guitar player? ROFLMFAO!
you don't think guns  could cut without slash? well i think they could of had mick mars on guitar and still of sold the same amount of albums, thats just my opion though.

Wow, just wow. As I said before, go play the opening guitar licks of both SCOM and WTTJ for general music fans and they'll recognize those guitar licks more than they would a sample of Axl's voice. Axl is what made the band DANGEROUS. Slash was the leader in terms of musicianship and whether you like it or not, he came up with some of the best riffs in rock history. It's not as easy as you're making it out to be. To diminish Slash's guitar playing would be the same as attempting to diminish Page's guitar playing for Zeppelin. At least on AFD, Slash's guitar playing is just as important as anything else on the album. Axl had great, grandiose ideas for November Rain and Estranged, for example, without Slash's input. But I think Slash's input definitely had a positive impact on both those songs (the most memorable thing about Estranged is the main riff, and the solo of NR is very memorable as well).
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2006, 04:28:37 AM »

Izzy Stradlin, without a second fucking thought.

Without Axl Rose & Izzy Stradlin, Guns N' Roses would not exist. For all of the 'hired Guns', someone had to be there to write the classics both lyrically & instrumentally.
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