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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2004, 09:22:31 AM »

i pose the question again, where the fuck is bon jovi?

sucking Axl's dick

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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2004, 09:31:17 AM »

Yeah, it's good to remember, when looking at Soundscan numbers on GnR, that 80% or more of Appetites album sales and a good chunk of Lies album sales, aren't there....
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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2004, 10:02:20 AM »

so this is correct list os American sales?..top 37..I have to wonder few things...where is Iron Maiden, Bon Jovi, Limp Bizkit etc...and all these popstars (Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey)..where are they? or is this somekind of list of rock/metal bands?
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« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2004, 01:25:19 PM »

I hope i'm not stating the obvious but those numbers are only since 1991. They are accurate since 1991.
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« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2004, 01:41:12 PM »

yes, it's been said..but still the list doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2004, 01:56:06 PM »

John, those are just metal acts. What does not make sense? Those other bands like Metallica-ac/dc-Aerosmith have catalogs three times the size of Gnr's-some even 4 times as large. It is impressive that Gnr is that high. Also, Riaa numbers are albums shipped, not actual sales in record stores like soundscan. RIAA numbers are still the most accurate in my opinion because someone bought the album-maybe not a consumer, but a wholesaler or the record store etc. Riaa us numbers for Gnr are 35.5 million and have not been updated in at least 4 years.
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« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2004, 02:36:05 PM »

http://www.metal-sludge.com/SludgeScansCareerTotals.htm

1. Metallica 44,339,994
2. Aerosmith 25,302,355
3. AC/DC 20,095,641
4. Guns N'Roses 18,692,707
5. Ozzy Osbourne  13,810,371
6. KISS 7,716,667
7. Motley Crue 6,894,092
8. Megadeth 6,873,227
9. Poison 4,541,197
10. Skid Row 3,098,218
11. Firehouse 2,881,561
12. Alice Cooper 2,745,300
13. Anthrax 2,476,577
14. Warrant 2,196,518
15. Slaughter 2,020,418
16. Cinderella 2,004,877
17. Great White 1,941,122
18. Whitesnake 1,784,470
19. Ratt 1,403,858
20. Dokken 1,176,762
21. Quiet Riot 1,056,702
22. Motorhead 768,014
23. LA Guns 713,838
24. White Lion 691,417
25. Trixter 609,264
26. Winger 601,898
27. W.A.S.P. 570,419
28. Twisted Sister 503,068
29. Faster Pussycat 336,195
30. Bulletboys 262,354
31. Danger Danger 217,407
32. Enuff Z'Nuff 176,087
33. Bang Tango 151,322
34. Love/Hate 100,655
35. Tuff 85,565
36. XYZ 79,971
37. Pretty Boy Floyd 27,628


What an odd list......

So many groups missing

Bon Jovi, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Pantera, Slayer etc etc

Well done to Pretty Boy Floyd....real high sellers there....why are they even on the list?
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2004, 02:43:47 PM »

Honestly...this is odd.

Please do yourselves a favor and go to the metal-sludge webpage.

metal-sludge is a webpage dedicated to the fall of metal//////hence metal sludge.

all the bands listed are favorites of the board...........some have been left off..................maybe due to the fact................the website owner does not like them


this is just a list.........................not a TOPS list.............but a list of band picked by one's preference.

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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2004, 03:07:37 PM »

John, those are just metal acts. What does not make sense? Those other bands like Metallica-ac/dc-Aerosmith have catalogs three times the size of Gnr's-some even 4 times as large. It is impressive that Gnr is that high. Also, Riaa numbers are albums shipped, not actual sales in record stores like soundscan. RIAA numbers are still the most accurate in my opinion because someone bought the album-maybe not a consumer, but a wholesaler or the record store etc. Riaa us numbers for Gnr are 35.5 million and have not been updated in at least 4 years.

thank for clarification. ok but still that list doesn't make sense..many high record seller band are missing..but well, if this is a legit info, I guess this is valid list  Sad


edit. no way this is a valid list....
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2004, 03:28:28 PM »

John, those are just metal acts. What does not make sense? Those other bands like Metallica-ac/dc-Aerosmith have catalogs three times the size of Gnr's-some even 4 times as large. It is impressive that Gnr is that high. Also, Riaa numbers are albums shipped, not actual sales in record stores like soundscan. RIAA numbers are still the most accurate in my opinion because someone bought the album-maybe not a consumer, but a wholesaler or the record store etc. Riaa us numbers for Gnr are 35.5 million and have not been updated in at least 4 years.

thank for clarification. ok but still that list doesn't make sense..many high record seller band are missing..but well, if this is a legit info, I guess this is valid list  Sad


edit. no way this is a valid list....

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The list is 100% legit.

It contains bands relevent to Metal Sludge.com only.

The list is hardly all inclusive of every metal act out there.
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2004, 03:31:53 PM »

Thank you-I should have wrote SOME metal acts.
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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2004, 03:44:06 PM »

This isn't supposed to be the top selling metal acts of all time. It's just a list of bands that are relevant to their readers to show how well their fave bands did. They did leave off some bands but they probably just forgot them. Bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park would not be relevant to thier list so that's why they did not make it.

Does anyone know if cds bought from record clubs count?
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Does anyone know if cds bought from record clubs count?

I would think so GG, at some point in the purchase process, those CD's were surely scanned and accounted for.
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2004, 03:56:56 PM »

There's a big diference between GNR and Metallica. The way I see it, this is why:

The following album sales figures may not be that accurate. I have no source to confirm them.


Metallica's black album sold 12 million. The album was released in 91. Prior to Black, Metallica had released 4 albums, none of them had sold much until then. Metallica had released Both loads, St anger, Garage inc and the San Francisco Orchestra album. That adds up to 10 albums, and I would say most of those sales 95%, came after 91.

In the mean time, AFD had sold before 91 around 10 million copies maybe? GNR Lies maybe 2 or 3. The illusions sold 7 million a piece and then we have TSI and Live era. There are 6 albums total. 4 less than metallica's and GNR biggest selling ablum is prior to 91.

Many fans who bought Metallica's black album, bought the first 4 after that ( I did) The follow up albums although crappy material, sold well.

GNR follow up to the illusions with a cover album ( sold 2 million same as Garage inc) and a live album 6 years later which didn't make a million.

In conclussion, had GNr released 2 more albums between TSI and live era, we would be reversing that list's order.
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« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2004, 03:22:38 AM »

Wasn't it 91 or something when Metallica and GNR did the same tour? and Illusions world tour was 91 or something..GNR was really biggest in 90's, so the band sold loads of Appetite albums during the early 90's..of course they sold much when they released it, but it would thought that selling figures were also high during the early 90's.
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« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2004, 09:29:06 AM »

is that just US sales?

aerosmith has sold more than 25 million records in the us but that was b4 the soundscan era i guess


Yeah i think it just US sales...Strange numbers..this can be bullshit also..

Btw this is US sales list from riaa,.com

BEATLES, THE
 165.5
 
PRESLEY, ELVIS
 117.5
 
LED ZEPPELIN
 106.0
 
BROOKS, GARTH
 105.0
 
EAGLES
 88.0
 
JOEL, BILLY
 78.5
 
PINK FLOYD
 73.5
 
STREISAND, BARBRA
 71.5
 
JOHN, ELTON
 67.5
 
ROLLING STONES, THE
 63.5
 
AEROSMITH
 63.5
 
AC/DC
 63.0
 
SPRINGSTEEN, BRUCE
 61.5
 
MADONNA
 60.0
 
JACKSON, MICHAEL
 58.5
 
METALLICA
 57.0
 
CAREY, MARIAH
 57.0
 
STRAIT, GEORGE
 54.5
 
HOUSTON, WHITNEY
 54.0
 
VAN HALEN
 50.5
 
ROGERS, KENNY
 50.5
 
DIAMOND, NEIL
 50.0
 
FLEETWOOD MAC
 48.5
 
KENNY G
 47.5
 
U2
 47.0
 
ALABAMA
 46.0
 
DION, CELINE
 45.5
 
SANTANA
 43.5
 
TWAIN, SHANIA
 42.0
 
JOURNEY
 40.0
 
NELSON, WILLIE
 39.0
 
CLAPTON, ERIC
 38.5
 
SIMON & GARFUNKEL
 37.5
 
CHICAGO
 37.0
 
SEGER, BOB/SILVER BULLET BAND
 37.0
 
PRINCE
 36.5
 
2 PAC
 36.5
 
FOREIGNER
 36.0
 
MC ENTIRE, REBA
 36.0
 
BACKSTREET BOYS
 36.0
 
GUNS 'N ROSES
 35.5
 
DYLAN, BOB
 34.5
 
JACKSON, ALAN
 33.5
 
DENVER, JOHN
 33.5
 
BON JOVI
 33.5
 
DEF LEPPARD
 32.0
 
STEWART, ROD
 32.0
 
COLLINS, PHIL
 32.0
 
RONSTADT, LINDA
 31.5
 
BOSTON
 31.0
 
QUEEN
 30.5
 
TAYLOR, JAMES
 30.5
 
DOORS, THE
 29.5
 
MATTHEWS, DAVE BAND
 29.0
 
DIXIE CHICKS
 28.5
 
PEARL JAM
 28.0
 
PETTY, TOM & THE HEARTBREAKERS
 28.0
 
KELLY, R.
 28.0
 
SPEARS, BRITNEY
 28.0
 
'N SYNC
 28.0
 
BOLTON, MICHAEL
 28.0
 
OSBOURNE, OZZY
 27.5
 
BOYZ II MEN
 27.0
 
MELLENCAMP, JOHN
 26.5
 
BEE GEES
 25.5
 
ZZ TOP
 25.0
 
MC CARTNEY, PAUL
 25.0
 
LYNYRD SKYNYRD
 25.0
 
SINATRA, FRANK
 25.0
 
RUSH
 24.0
 
MILLER, STEVE BAND
 24.0
 
MANILOW, BARRY
 24.0
 
CARPENTERS, THE
 24.0
 
NIRVANA
 24.0
 
JACKSON, JANET
 24.0
 
CARS, THE
 23.5
 
HILL, FAITH
 23.0
 
BROOKS & DUNN
 23.0
 
EARTH, WIND & FIRE
 23.0
 
MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER
 22.5
 
MOTLEY CRUE
 22.5
 
VANDROSS, LUTHER
 22.5
 
SADE
 22.5
 
GILL, VINCE
 22.5
 
CREED
 22.0
 
TLC
 22.0
 
ENYA
 22.0
 
MC GRAW, TIM
 22.0
 
CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL
 22.0
 
ESTEFAN, GLORIA
 22.0
 
POLICE, THE
 22.0
 
DOOBIE BROTHERS
 22.0
 
R.E.O. SPEEDWAGON
 21.5
 
GENESIS
 21.5
 
RICHIE, LIONEL
 21.0
 
BEASTIE BOYS
 21.0
 
MORISSETTE, ALANIS
 20.5
 
BUFFETT, JIMMY
 20.5
 
MEAT LOAF
 20.5
 
HEART
 20.5
 
WHO, THE
 20.0
 
BEACH BOYS, THE
 20.0
 
HOOTIE & THE BLOWFISH
 20.0
 
HENDRIX, JIMI
 20.0
 
EMINEM
 20.0
 
KISS
 19.0
 
R.E.M.
 19.0
 
BRAXTON, TONI
 19.0
 
WILLIAMS, HANK, JR.
 19.0
 
SMASHING PUMPKINS
 18.3
 
JAY-Z
 18.0
 
CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG
 18.0
 
KID ROCK
 18.0
 
MATCHBOX TWENTY
 18.0
 
JEWEL
 17.5
 
MONKEES, THE
 17.5
 
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
 17.5
 
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS
 17.5
 
TRAVIS, RANDY
 17.5
 
GRATEFUL DEAD
 17.0
 
RAITT, BONNIE
 17.0
 
ADAMS, BRYAN
 17.0
 
MATHIS, JOHNNY
 17.0
 
OUTKAST
 17.0
 
STYX
 16.5
 
GREEN DAY
 16.5
 
MARLEY, BOB & THE WAILERS
 16.5
 
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK
 16.5
 
BROWNE, JACKSON
 16.5
 
GRANT, AMY
 16.5
 
CASH, JOHNNY
 16.5
 
MC LACHLAN, SARAH
 16.5
 
YOUNG, NEIL
 16.5
 
HAMMER
 16.0
 
NOTORIOUS B.I.G.
 16.0
 
STING
 16.0
 
LIMP BIZKIT
 16.0
 
STEVENS, CAT
 15.5
 
JOPLIN, JANIS
 15.5
 
BAD COMPANY
 15.5
 
RIMES, LEANN
 15.5
 
DIRE STRAITS
 15.5
 
ISLEY BROTHERS
 15.5
 
KANSAS
 15.5
 
BLACK SABBATH
 15.0
 
BLIGE, MARY J.
 15.0
 
JENNINGS, WAYLON
 15.0
 
FOGELBERG, DAN
 15.0
 
MICHAEL, GEORGE
 15.0
 
NELLY
15.0
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« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2004, 03:48:06 PM »

more soundscan numbers from metal-sludge.com

http://www.metal-sludge.com/SludgeScansCareerTotals.htm


remember these numbers are different than RIAA's because they are actual customer sales........this is what Billboard uses for it's top forty..........not RIAA numbers.

also these are numbers from when Soundscan started (june 1991)..............so for the thickheaded.........prior 1991 sales are not included.

these numbers are very acurate.

looks very nice for GNR...............since they have not released anything ...........really........post 93'.

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« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2004, 03:55:56 PM »

Gnr would probally be #1 if they put out one album every 2 or 3 years since 1993.
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« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2004, 08:00:36 PM »

I can't believe crap like 2 pac has sold more albums than Gn'R. Makes me SICK! Soundscan should have the Illusion albums at 14,000,000 total.
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« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2004, 03:42:44 AM »

I can't believe crap like 2 pac has sold more albums than Gn'R. Makes me SICK! Soundscan should have the Illusion albums at 14,000,000 total.

Yeah but "he/record company" have released much more records than GNR so...
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