GN'R @ the 2002 MTV VMAs thread

[theblues]

Yea, I too thought that was an incredible scream!  Too bad the rest of the performance was a little shaky  

But the scream in Madagascar near the end was one of Axls all time bests  [peace]

[theblues]

It would have been bleeped because they run it on a tape delay....for the specific reason to catch profanities.

I mean--they caught Fallon saying the f word. "Guns, n' bleepin roses"

~KYI

I seem to remember hearing him say Guns N' Fucking Roses. I watched the live broadcast.



/jarmo

Yea it was bleeped.  but I think they knew before hand because the show was supposedly "live"

[jarmo]

Yea it was bleeped.  but I think they knew before hand because the show was supposedly "live"

My mp3 is uncensored...

I watched it on MTV Nordic/Europe.



/jarmo

[theblues]

Oooh ok. I watched it on tape.  I went to bed during the TLC thing because I thought GnR wouldnt show up    

[marknroses]

I'm glad you all liked it as much as I did - even to a point where you could make a good case that that was the greatest (and maybe the longest) Banshee Howl that Axl ever let out on stage. [wow]

It was definitly vintage Axl, though it was also delivered so smoothly as to make me think that his voice maybe in some small way has actually improved over time, though definitly not as consistent. But those 22 (or 35) seconds had everything a rock n' roll fan could want besides the sounds - Axl in that short span of time has never looked so cool since he did the Ritz Show in NYC in 1991.

But like I said, I was very dissapointed his voice didn't explode all the way in the end, rather it imploded and with that, his performamce never achieved the same height afterwards.  [crying]
BUT if he's got that voice down, even if only to record a few lines at a time every song in the studio, we may expect a real treat.
 [peace]
MNR

[killingvector]

as soon as he started fiddling with that damn earpiece, it all fell apart.

the VMAs were a big missed opportunity for axl. A big mistake. Since that performance, the American media began dogging him for being over the hill and mainstream America, known for its reprehensible taste in the talentless and manufactured artists, formulated an opinion of the new GnR.

All in all, it was a bad time to have an off night.

[SLCPUNK]

Yea it was a bummer that it turned out that way and the media started on him. Actually on his first apearance in LV and then again the following year (plus RIR) all had positive write-ups from what I read. So yea, VMAs were a bad place to drop the ball. I still never thought it was THAT bad, but then again I'm probably biased.

[Michelle]

as soon as he started fiddling with that damn earpiece, it all fell apart.

the VMAs were a big missed opportunity for axl. A big mistake. Since that performance, the American media began dogging him for being over the hill and mainstream America, known for its reprehensible taste in the talentless and manufactured artists, formulated an opinion of the new GnR.

All in all, it was a bad time to have an off night.

It for sure wasn't the very best performance, but I wouldn't say that it really fell apart. I mean, Madagascar was still really great and people know that. I wouldn't say that it was a mistake to do the VMA's coz it did bring GN'R back into the spotlight. Unfortunately Axl didn't have his best night and the media cannibalized it.

[zyprexa]

My mp3 is uncensored...
I watched it on MTV Nordic/Europe.
/jarmo

I VHS/VCR taped the live show.  Here in the US they were on a five-second tape delay so it was bleeped when we watched the show "live"

[Dragon]

Well it's MTV Nordic/Europe here and they don't bleep The Osbournes, the only blur out trademarks. And the VMA was aired live in the middle of the night. So the kids should be asleep.

[St.heathen]

I totally agree with how powerful that intro was fucken fantastic we had a part to watch it and i didnt even notice the weakness in the performance on the night cause we were all just loving the fact that was our axl ! lol

Having seen a couple of the american shows that took place after the vmas - he seemed to be more concious of doing the full impact jungle intro - as a result of the rest of the performance that night.  He does it alot tamer than the way he  did it in europe before the vmas.  Which is a shame cause one weak performance doesnt need to spoil the whole damn bunch ...so to speak lol and thats got to be one of the most powerful intros in rock history.  sends shivers down the spine!

[Michelle]

they don't bleep The Osbournes

Yeah, there wouldn't be much left besides the bleeps...

[Bad Apple]

Those were the best 22 seconds in that damn show and the best performance of the night.  Also, it was a great introduction by Chris. If you live in NY (like I do) you know how exciting it is....and for those who don't know WELCOME TO THE FUCKIN' JUNGLE!!!!!

[marknroses]

Dint ANYONE get this thread?  This guy is saying how bad Axl SUCKED after he opened his mouth!  Im not an Axl fan, but I am not misinterpreting this.  He talking about all the excitement, just to hear pure shit after 22 seconds.

yeah, Talkin Jive u got that right  [rant]

People haven't caught on that part yet where I say that Axl's voice "IMPLODED" after his initial thunderous roar that almost shook the foundations of the music industry for 22 second. Just watch the performance and u will all see what I am talking about. [no]

But still, I want this post to be a tribute to those 22 second of magnificence that only a "vintage" Axl performance could bring - I don't think most of us could have cared if Axl was backed up by Safari Animals, as long as he had the voice down, which he did (for only 22 seconds). It wasn;t only the voice though - it was the attitude, and if Axl could only recapture that glory on the regular, most of us would be glad to welcome him back as the new GNR.
 [peace]
MNR

[theblues]

Yes.  To bad he missed that line in WTTJ  [nervous]

[theblues]

Jesus, Talkin Jive never gets the respect he deserves.  Finally after a zillion posts about it only 1 person gets it right (thats me).  Even the person after my thread didnt get it.

22 seconds, then Axl opens his mouth to deliver 100% pure shit.  Thats what MarknRoses is saying people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Wake up!!!!!!!

Axl will never get vintage cause the old crew will not come back.

Some of you people, are sometimes as dumb as your posts.

How many posts?  Cant anyone get the message??

22 seconds = shit

Thank you Markn Roses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On a whole i thought it was a great performance.  

[GunsLova]

 Ok This is the first time I'm posting here, but I've been checking this message board out almost everyday since the VMA performence near the end of Aug.They were re-playing the show at Much Music tonite and something happened that I wanted to share with you people.

Ok I was sitting there watching the show and they were 2-3friends of mine watching along with me.2of my friends didn't even know about the new band.Anyhow before Guns takes the stage we were arguing about how important the ol' members were and how the new band would never be any good.
The band takes the stage, they do the 3songs, and inspite the fact that Axl was a little outta breath, everyone agreed that Axl is STILL THE MAN. That the performance blew away everything else that had happened that nite during the show.
The highlight was when they were playing the solo at the end of paradise city, and my friends were like, damn this band can Still Rock [yes]. I felt quite happy hearing that.
Gawd I just can't wait till the Album comes out. It's nice to see that people that still understand what good music is, have faith in the band.
Rock on People

[Tj]

  yeah that's nice to know. just a little bit of encouragement here and there is very welcome.

[cheeser]

was anybody actually at the august vma show and get see gnr live that night???

[Michelle]

Well, the fact that GN'R medley at the end of the VMA's blew everything away that night isn't that astonishing to me coz I could barely stand through the whole show until the end. One song worse than the other... But it's still nice that people are still getting into GN'R - even though the VMA's really weren't their best show so far. [peace]