Why doesnt GNR tour with another HUGE Band----

[Oh My Choking Soul]

GN'R never were "80's metal", they are neither completely "80's"? and nor "metal". so this is a wrong problem. Plus, they were far bigger and more popular in the 90's. GN'R were only famous in America in the 80's, AFD didn't sell that much outside America, it sold much much less than Use Your Illusion I and II outside America, and everywhere in the world they are remembered as an early 90's Rock band for most part.

I think it's good to tour with some young modern bands. This is not about a ridiculous "has-been" spandex revival act, this is about living with your time. We are in 2006. The band took the right decision to go on tour with some fresh young bands (Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach).

Like it or not GN'R were glamrock. Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach are not fresh new bands, they are 1 hit wonders that will be forgotten. GN'R deserve better than that. There are several great new "Classic Rock/Glam Rock" bands out there that would work though. Even bands like Jet and the Killers would be a good match. If you don't think GN'R are glam go look at any Illusion era video, the make-up on the back of the Live Like a Suicide album or any of the other volumes of obvious GN'R Glam Rock Shots.

EDIT: I am by no means insinuating that as a bad thing, I cherish GN'R more than any living band, but they were Glam none the less. I would not describe the current incarnation as Glam (yet, lets see the new video first).

[shoup]

Guns N' Roses / Pearl Jam

Although Eddie would never go for it unfortunately. 

[lennonisgod]

There's too much of that right now and it appears that the bands doing it are washed up...

Journey/Def Lep
Crue/Aerosmith
Cinderella/Poison
McGraw/Faith Hill


-- I've seen these 4 bands and the sets are shorter than what you'd like to hear... especiall the Aerosmith set (12 songs for $125!!)..

I'd rather pay 80 for a GNR exclusive. 

My girlfriends a big country music fan and she saw Tim McGraw and Faith Hill in July I think and she said the show was almost 4 hours long.  They're some of the biggest stars in the music business and aren't washed up at all. Don't get me wrong, I hate when she listens to that shit when I'm around, but to compare stars as huge as them to Cinderella, Poison or the Crue, is kind of ridiculous whether you like them or not.

[Lord Kayoss]

One word:  Montreal.

[lennonisgod]

GN'R never were "80's metal", they are neither completely "80's"  and nor "metal". so this is a wrong problem. Plus, they were far bigger and more popular in the 90's. GN'R were only famous in America in the 80's, AFD didn't sell that much outside America, it sold much much less than Use Your Illusion I and II outside America, and everywhere in the world they are remembered as an early 90's Rock band for most part.

I think it's good to tour with some young modern bands. This is not about a ridiculous "has-been" spandex revival act, this is about living with your time. We are in 2006. The band took the right decision to go on tour with some fresh young bands (Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach).

Like it or not GN'R were glamrock. Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach are not fresh new bands, they are 1 hit wonders that will be forgotten. GN'R deserve better than that. There are several great new "Classic Rock/Glam Rock" bands out there that would work though. Even bands like Jet and the Killers would be a good match. If you don't think GN'R are glam go look at any Illusion era video, the make-up on the back of the Live Like a Suicide album or any of the other volumes of obvious GN'R Glam Rock Shots.

EDIT: I am by no means insinuating that as a bad thing, I cherish GN'R more than any living band, but they were Glam none the less. I would not describe the current incarnation as Glam (yet, lets see the new video first).

You're one of the few that actually think GN'R were "Glam Rock", which they weren't.  Thank God for that.  You would think that if they were a "hair metal Glam band", that they would win all of those top 20 "hair metal bands" or the countdown for the "top Glam band" or the other similar shows on VH1 and various websites,  but they aren't even in those fucking countdowns.  But whatever, you can have your own opinion even if it's the wrong one.  BTW, even though I don't like Papa Roach or Hoobastank, they aren't one hit wonders at all. I hear different Papa Roach songs on the radio all the time and Hoobastank had a lot of famous songs before the one that pretty much ruined their image because it got so fucking huge. I just don't know where you come up with some of the things you say.  "Look at any Illusion era video, to see that GN'R was Glam?" There aren't any that I can think of off the top of my head. You need to go put on your Poison album and stop trying to put GN'R in the same category as them.

[lennonisgod]

Guns N' Roses / Pearl Jam

Although Eddie would never go for it unfortunately. 

That would be quite a fucking show though, wouldn't it??  GN'R could never headline that show, at least here in America. I'm not sure how popular PJ is in other countries.  Pearl Jam here is fucking huge when it comes to concerts and the GN'R crowd and the PJ crowd just wouldn't be a good mix. But I love both bands, so I would enjoy myself very much.

[Neemo]

GN'R never were "80's metal", they are neither completely "80's"? and nor "metal". so this is a wrong problem. Plus, they were far bigger and more popular in the 90's. GN'R were only famous in America in the 80's, AFD didn't sell that much outside America, it sold much much less than Use Your Illusion I and II outside America, and everywhere in the world they are remembered as an early 90's Rock band for most part.

I think it's good to tour with some young modern bands. This is not about a ridiculous "has-been" spandex revival act, this is about living with your time. We are in 2006. The band took the right decision to go on tour with some fresh young bands (Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach).

Like it or not GN'R were glamrock. Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach are not fresh new bands, they are 1 hit wonders that will be forgotten. GN'R deserve better than that. There are several great new "Classic Rock/Glam Rock" bands out there that would work though. Even bands like Jet and the Killers would be a good match. If you don't think GN'R are glam go look at any Illusion era video, the make-up on the back of the Live Like a Suicide album or any of the other volumes of obvious GN'R Glam Rock Shots.

EDIT: I am by no means insinuating that as a bad thing, I cherish GN'R more than any living band, but they were Glam none the less. I would not describe the current incarnation as Glam (yet, lets see the new video first).

You're one of the few that actually think GN'R were "Glam Rock", which they weren't.? Thank God for that.? You would think that if they were a "hair metal Glam band", that they would win all of those top 20 "hair metal bands" or the countdown for the "top Glam band" or the other similar shows on VH1 and various websites,? but they aren't even in those fucking countdowns.? But whatever, you can have your own opinion even if it's the wrong one.? BTW, even though I don't like Papa Roach or Hoobastank, they aren't one hit wonders at all. I hear different Papa Roach songs on the radio all the time and Hoobastank had a lot of famous songs before the one that pretty much ruined their image because it got so fucking huge. I just don't know where you come up with some of the things you say.? "Look at any Illusion era video, to see that GN'R was Glam?" There aren't any that I can think of off the top of my head. You need to go put on your Poison album and stop trying to put GN'R in the same category as them.

yeah they were never glam whatever

[The Dog]

GN'R never were "80's metal", they are neither completely "80's"  and nor "metal". so this is a wrong problem. Plus, they were far bigger and more popular in the 90's. GN'R were only famous in America in the 80's, AFD didn't sell that much outside America, it sold much much less than Use Your Illusion I and II outside America, and everywhere in the world they are remembered as an early 90's Rock band for most part.

I think it's good to tour with some young modern bands. This is not about a ridiculous "has-been" spandex revival act, this is about living with your time. We are in 2006. The band took the right decision to go on tour with some fresh young bands (Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach).

Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach are not fresh new bands, they are 1 hit wonders that will be forgotten. GN'R deserve better than that. There are several great new "Classic Rock/Glam Rock" bands out there that would work though. Even bands like Jet and the Killers would be a good match.

Agreed, and thats what kills me so much about PR opening.  They were never even that big with their ONE hit (which is a god awful song btw).  There are a lot of new bands that, while they might not even be that good, are still "new" and up and coming.  Say what you want about Avenged Sevenfold, but you can't deny they are one of the more popular "new" bands out there.

Roach just not the type of band that makes you go "WOW, GNR AND papa roach!!!".  Its not exciting, its not fresh or innovative or even daring - its just boring.

[AxlRose4eva1]

The reason why they wont is because its a horrible idea.  If you need GNR to tour with another band you like to have insentive to go to a show, then you probably arent that into Guns N' Roses.  You can say that itll make them more popular, but the people going to U2/NIN/ Any 80's Metal band show, are people who made up their musical tastes 20 years ago and probably are people who can afford to buy a computer and download any gnr song that comes out (unless they are U2 fans who probably feel guilty over such acts).

Also U2's humanitarian work doesnt make them a good band.  I hate U2, I saw them live in NY and they blew, thats my opinion.  I dont like them live, i hate their albums, and if you must know why i went to the show its because my girlfriends a liberal and i have to pretend to tolerate that nonsense.

Also GNR has an expensive set, most other big bands that have been mentioned have expensive sets.  Also Axl is known to cancel shows and be unruly on tour, most headlining bands arent gonna want to tolerate that. 

If you want to see 2 bands then go see them on different nights, itll probably cost the same, itll be less waiting around and you will get a longer set of music.  Its cool if you like U2, but why wouldnt you want a U2 tour and a different GNR tour.  You will see both bands longer and waste less time. 

I would be 100% fine if GNR had no opener.  I wanna go see GNR not some other band riding their coattail and playing 5 songs.  If a show has assigned seating i usually show up after the opening act unless im particularly interested in them (like when APC opened for NIN, however, i still would have gone and been happy if it was just NIN alone).  The band that opens for gnr matters very little compared to other external factors such as whether the album is released, whether a video is released, a single is released, how the concerts are promoted, if Axl shows up to every show, and how the shows are reviewed.  That will really determine how the tour affects GNR popularity, not who opens forthem.

[Oh My Choking Soul]

GN'R never were "80's metal", they are neither completely "80's"? and nor "metal". so this is a wrong problem. Plus, they were far bigger and more popular in the 90's. GN'R were only famous in America in the 80's, AFD didn't sell that much outside America, it sold much much less than Use Your Illusion I and II outside America, and everywhere in the world they are remembered as an early 90's Rock band for most part.

I think it's good to tour with some young modern bands. This is not about a ridiculous "has-been" spandex revival act, this is about living with your time. We are in 2006. The band took the right decision to go on tour with some fresh young bands (Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach).

Like it or not GN'R were glamrock. Hoosbaskank, Papa Roach are not fresh new bands, they are 1 hit wonders that will be forgotten. GN'R deserve better than that. There are several great new "Classic Rock/Glam Rock" bands out there that would work though. Even bands like Jet and the Killers would be a good match. If you don't think GN'R are glam go look at any Illusion era video, the make-up on the back of the Live Like a Suicide album or any of the other volumes of obvious GN'R Glam Rock Shots.

EDIT: I am by no means insinuating that as a bad thing, I cherish GN'R more than any living band, but they were Glam none the less. I would not describe the current incarnation as Glam (yet, lets see the new video first).

You're one of the few that actually think GN'R were "Glam Rock", which they weren't.? Thank God for that.? You would think that if they were a "hair metal Glam band", that they would win all of those top 20 "hair metal bands" or the countdown for the "top Glam band" or the other similar shows on VH1 and various websites,? but they aren't even in those fucking countdowns.? But whatever, you can have your own opinion even if it's the wrong one.? BTW, even though I don't like Papa Roach or Hoobastank, they aren't one hit wonders at all. I hear different Papa Roach songs on the radio all the time and Hoobastank had a lot of famous songs before the one that pretty much ruined their image because it got so fucking huge. I just don't know where you come up with some of the things you say.? "Look at any Illusion era video, to see that GN'R was Glam?" There aren't any that I can think of off the top of my head. You need to go put on your Poison album and stop trying to put GN'R in the same category as them.

yeah they were never glam whatever

I LOVE YOU!!! LOL!!!?

The Darkness, Glam in My Opinion, have gone on record saying they have modeled themselves after GN'R and thier videos. Seriously, Axl's attire for November Rain? The whole Dolphin thing is pretty funny too. I love it, but it is funny, and glam. By the way, Glam stands for GLAMOR.

[ppbebe]

Even I know that. 

however, glam and metal aren't same.
people like David bowie, iggy pop were original Glam in their early days, yes?
and the bands like t rex, newyork dolls...

[jaypayton]

in that 1987 interview AXL actually said his dream is to OPEN for u2..i think he would put his ego aside to do that

[Bono]

The reason why they wont is because its a horrible idea.? If you need GNR to tour with another band you like to have insentive to go to a show, then you probably arent that into Guns N' Roses.? You can say that itll make them more popular, but the people going to U2/NIN/ Any 80's Metal band show, are people who made up their musical tastes 20 years ago and probably are people who can afford to buy a computer and download any gnr song that comes out (unless they are U2 fans who probably feel guilty over such acts).

That last part is such load. I never amde up my mind as far as musical taste goes 20 yeasr ago. To suggest that anyone who gos to see these bands live has done so is arrognant and condescending. My musical taste continues to evolve everyday.  I became a U2 fan in the late 90's and it wasn't untill the veryearly stages of this decade that i realies they ahd become my favorite abnd. Untill that point Gn'R was my favorite despit them being the only real hard rock band I was listening to. I love the old NIN(pretty hate machine) but haven't really enjoyed any of their albums nearly as much. Yet i choose to go see them when they came to Edmonton because I knew it would be a kick ass show. It's a pretty big generalization you've made of  fans of these bands. Also the coment about these fasn being able to afford a computer serves what purpose and is trying to prove what point? I love U2 and went to see them and like NIN and went to see them but I can't afford a computer. I use my brother's. I'd like to ask you what you use to come online?

Oh and on a side note Gn'R is an 80's metla/hard rock band. People going to see Axl perform and wanting to hear the old songs as well as new songs must have decided the fate of their musical taste 20 years ago as well right? 


As for feeling guilty about downloading an album well that's not somthing only U2 fans feels, I knwo that for a fact. Personally though I think if you're gonna download and entire album and decide not to buy it than you might as well walk inot the store and steal it right off the shelf.

[Nighteyes]

How about Guns and Motley Crue?  

[Bono]

How about Guns and Motley Crue? ?

Nah.  I like Motley Crue and have seen them twice in the last year but it would feel like a step backwards for this Guns N' Roses. I like the idea of them touring with new bands  but I thik they are choosing the wrong ones. Rise Against would be a cool opening act but maybe a bit to "punk" for the crowd

[Nytunz]

U2 would be the worst band too see GNR tour with.. i cant stand U2!

If that ever happen, i will be so dissapointed! I guess Axl knows better then that.

I would like to see Guns N Roses tour with bands like; Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Queens Of The Stone Age, or Dillinger Escape plan even WASP would be fantastic!

[Bodhi]

I agree with them touring with new bands...this is a new band, and axl has evolved the sound...touring with motley crue would make no sense...the new music is nothing at all like the old stuff....

[AxlRose4eva1]

in that 1987 interview AXL actually said his dream is to OPEN for u2..i think he would put his ego aside to do that

Axl has also said that he loves Lou Vega, wanted NWA to open for gnr and that he hopes GNR is as far away from Maiden as possible.  Axl is crazy and says crazy things, especially 19 years ago.  GNR in 1987 is much different than GNR in 1992 and even more different from GNR in 2006.  How about GNR plays a concert and Bono can go protest some tree getting cut down.  U2 fans are Dave Matthews fans, and they dont tend to mix well with GNR fans.