So, Anyone else Puzzled By Some of These Venues and Dates GNR are Playing At?

[guns97]

All I want is for people to admit this new incarnation of "GNR" is not as talented nor as good as the old.  Yes, Axl is trying and I give him credit for that but it will never be what it once was.  I think almost everyone would agree that if they continued on post 1993 as the same group, this whole thread about smaller venues, etc would not even exist.  I wouldn't even care if they continued to evolve their music, because what the songwriting combo of Axl, Izzy and Slash would produce would be much better than Axl on his own.

[JuicySwoos]

I don't think one can just assume the orginal lineup could sell out arenas without a new album in 12 years either.

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

I'm not puzzled by the venues and the dates they are playing so far. I think it is a nice mix they have going. I'm alittle shocked they are not playing any shows in PA and after Pittsburgh in 2002 went very well. I thought for sure they would have played it again or ven maybe Wilkes-Barre. Also no Boston and Albany both did well also on the 2002 tour. I though they would have one up state New York like myabe Buffalo which was on the original North American tour press release. It's just great to see they are playing again and I'm sure more dates will be added on the next leg.

[jazjme]

I think we'll get a stadium tour on the second leg. 

Stadium shows suck, horrible sound and you are a mile away from the band. GNR will not be playing stadiums anytime soon and hopefully never again. An outdoor amphitheater tour would be awesome for next summer, I'd love to see them at Alpine Valley.

whast the difference witha stadium show and an outdoor amphetheater, that has a massive lawn?

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Look, the reason they cannot sell out legit venues all over the place is because people are in fact realizing that Guns truly doesn?t exist anymore.  The more Axl comes out of his shell, the more people start saying ?Where?s Slash?? Axl is simply using the moniker to draw people to the shows when in fact he's just 1/5 of what made everyone like this band so much.  It?s like Ford bringing back the T-bird a couple years ago...yes it had the T-bird name but lacked in so many ways what the original t-bird was all about and people took a crap on it - now its not in production anymore.

Chinese Democracy will be a moderate success at best, and let's be honest these songs we've heard so far are a notch below AFD and UYI.  The hardcore guys really want these songs to be great, but they aren?t.  Axl carrying this band as "GNR" is just not working and in fact is an insult to what this band once was.  The brand name attracts people to the shows, but the average new tunes and relative no-names backing him up will do little to bolster the name GNR in its present-day form.   It is simply of the result of the massive success they had and what EVERYONE came to know them as.   Again I know you hardcore guys don?t want to think that, but be realistic ? this is an inferior interpretation of a once great band.  Regaining the strong dual identity of this band is the only thing that would make GNR work again as a dominator of the rock world.  Axl and Slash, Slash and Axl. 

I mean for Christ?s sake they had creative differences it wasn?t like Slash banged Axl?s girlfriend or something or tried to kill her.  Put aside the differences and get back to making good music.  If the Stones and Aerosmith could do it, Guns certainly can. 

With that said, I am in fact going to see them in Worcester because have always liked the way Axl entertains the crowd and his voice is sort of back to 91-93 levels.  But for me there will always be something missing when I hear Nighttrain or Mr. Brownstone and it?s not Slash hammering his Gibson LP axe.  Its like a cover band with the original singer.

GUNS N ROSES is and will always be the rock band that ruled the world from 1987-1993?fin

It's time to get over it.  It's been 10 years since Slash left.  15 since Izzy left.  Either appreciate what we have today or move on with your life.  Slash will never rejoin the band.  At least the new version of GnR is branching out and trying different things.  I'd rather have it this way than have GnR turn into AC/DC and releasing the same album over and over again.  Or Metallica and releasing a string of average albums that collect dust.

[bazgnr]

I'm not puzzled by the venues and the dates they are playing so far. I think it is a nice mix they have going. I'm alittle shocked they are not playing any shows in PA and after Pittsburgh in 2002 went very well. I thought for sure they would have played it again or ven maybe Wilkes-Barre. Also no Boston and Albany both did well also on the 2002 tour. I though they would have one up state New York like myabe Buffalo which was on the original North American tour press release. It's just great to see they are playing again and I'm sure more dates will be added on the next leg.

I'm with you on the Pittsburgh deal.  I was really hoping to see them there, which now makes Cleveland the best bet.  Maybe next round, perhaps...