Is this accurate?

[dolphin]

Someone posted this on blabbermouth.net

Slash & Duff are not Original Members


Axl Rose - lead vocals
Tracii Guns - lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin - rhythm guitar
Ole Beich - bass guitar
Rob Gardner - drums

(1985-1990) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Slash - lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin - rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan - bass guitar
Steven Adler - drums

(1990-1991) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Slash - lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin - rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan - bass guitar
Matt Sorum - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards

(1991-1994) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Slash - lead guitar
Gilby Clarke - rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan - bass guitar
Matt Sorum - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards

(1994-1996) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Slash - lead guitar
Paul Tobias - rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan - bass guitar
Matt Sorum - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards

(1997-1998) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Robin Finck - lead guitar
Paul Tobias - rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan - bass guitar
Josh Freese - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards

(1998-2000) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Robin Finck - lead guitar
Paul Tobias - rhythm guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass guitar
Josh Freese - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
Chris Pitman - keyboards

(2000-2002) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Robin Finck - lead guitar
Buckethead - lead guitar
Paul Tobias - rhythm guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass guitar
Brian "Brain" Mantia - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
Chris Pitman - keyboards

(2002-2004) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Robin Finck - lead guitar
Buckethead - lead guitar
Richard Fortus - rhythm guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass guitar
Brian "Brain" Mantia - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
Chris Pitman - keyboards

(2004-2006) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Robin Finck - lead guitar
Richard Fortus - rhythm guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass guitar
Brian "Brain" Mantia - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
Chris Pitman - keyboards

(2006-present) Axl Rose - lead vocals
Robin Finck - lead guitar
Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal - lead guitar
Richard Fortus - rhythm guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass guitar
Brian "Brain" Mantia - drums
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
Chris Pitman - keyboards




Ole Beich - bass guitar?
Rob Gardner - drums

who are Ole Beich and Rob Gardner?
 

[jarmo]

March 26th, 1985 - A flyer for a show at The Troubadour in Los Angeles says "L.A Guns and Hollywood Rose presents the band Guns N' Roses". The band's line-up is: Axl, Izzy, Tracii Guns, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner.
The band calls themselves Guns N' Roses (they rejected the names Heads Of Amazon and AIDS).

Later Duff joins the band and the lineup looks like this:

W. Axl Rose (vocals)
Izzy Stradlin (guitar)
Tracii Guns (guitar)
Duff McKagan (bass)
Rob Gardner (drums)
 
June 6th, 1985 - The GN'R lineup of:
W. Axl Rose (vocals)
Slash (lead guitars)
Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitar)
Duff McKagan (bass)
Steven Adler (drums)

plays at the Troubadour in Hollywood, CA."A Rock N Roll Bash Where Everyones Smashed"

 
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/history/history-86.php


/jarmo

[dolphin]

Ole Beich - bass guitar
Rob Gardner - drums


but who are they?
 

[Buddha_Master]

This is fucking interesting! meditating on this now

[jarmo]

Former L.A. Guns members.




/jarmo

[dolphin]

so they were only in GNR for about 2 -3 months then?

[Neemo]

no hollywood rose was

Axl Rose - Vocals
Izzy Stradlin - Rhythm Guitar
Chris Weber - Lead Guitar
Johnny Christ - Drummer
Rick Mars - Bass then later Andre Roxx - Bass

but tracii, rob and ole are founding members of LA Guns i think

[slashisvr]

Ole Beich didnt he just play liek 1 show? and gardener 2 shows?

[dolphin]

not to start a fight but doesn't this prove then that Axl and Izzy are really the backbone of GNR?

So those who say GNR isn't GNR without Slash now can realize that he was never an original member.

[Neemo]

no because all the stuff on AFD was Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff and Steven

those 5 guys wrote and recorded AFD

[pasnow]

not to start a fight but doesn't this prove then that Axl and Izzy are really the backbone of GNR?

So those who say GNR isn't GNR without Slash now can realize that he was never an original member.

Right Because Ole Beich and Rob Gardner contributed to the kick ass songs on Appettite.. and Tracii Guns wrote the intro to SCOM & PC ..

Come on, get real. Just because Tracii Guns was in the (for a few weeks) band before Slash doesn't mean Appettite & UYI would have been the same albums it was with him writing the solo's..

[dolphin]

I am not talking about music wise.

I am just saying that the original GNR band did NOT include Slash and this is proof.


GNR name was decided upon way before Slash joined so Axl has EVERY right to keep GNR name.


March 26th, 1985 - A flyer for a show at The Troubadour in Los Angeles says "L.A Guns and Hollywood Rose presents the band Guns N' Roses". The band's line-up is: Axl, Izzy, Tracii Guns, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner.
The band calls themselves Guns N' Roses (they rejected the names Heads Of Amazon and AIDS).

[Neemo]

axl already has the right cuz he purchased the name off of Geffen/Interscope back in the early 90's that and everybody else quit leaving only Axl...it doesn't mean that the other guys weren't huge contributers to the success of GnR, between 5 and 8 guys (depending how you look at it) made the band famous and gave them their credibility....only one (or 2) are left

Jimmy Page started Zepplin and Nikki Sixx started Motley Crue....should those two guys go out and tour as their respective bands without the others....hells no!!!

yes he has the right...but should he? ....this is rapidly becoming a dead horse

[dolphin]

March 26th, 1985 - A flyer for a show at The Troubadour in Los Angeles says "L.A Guns and Hollywood Rose presents the band Guns N' Roses". The band's line-up is: Axl, Izzy, Tracii Guns, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner.The band calls themselves Guns N' Roses (they rejected the names Heads Of Amazon and AIDS).



according to what jarmo posted though it was GNR in 1985.



anyways.........i was just posting something I read off blabbermouth.net so don't shoot me

[Origen]

I am just saying that the original GNR band did NOT include Slash and this is proof.

You say this like it's brand new information ? Like it was some hidden secret.


Ole Beich & Rob Gardner played in the band for a few weeks and that was it, they probably didn't even write anythink for GnR. It's not like the band was established at the time, they had thought of the name and that's all.

Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven and Axl, when they first joined that's when it became Guns N Roses.

[dolphin]

I am just saying that the original GNR band did NOT include Slash and this is proof.

You say this like it's brand new information ? Like it was some hidden secret.


Ole Beich & Rob Gardner played in the band for a few weeks and that was it, they probably didn't even write anythink for GnR. It's not like the band was established at the time, they had thought of the name and that's all. That lineup is about as original as the current lineup.

Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven and Axl, when they first joined that's when it became Guns N Roses.

don't get all pissy dude.

it's all gnr.

i am just posting what i read off blabbermouth.net so don't shoot me.

[jimb0]

Slash may not have came up with the name of Guns n' Roses, but he definately fucking built the band with that name.

[ForeverGNR]

Ole Beich was a Danish guitarist and bass player, born in the city of Esbjerg in 1955. In his younger years he became a local Rock'n'Roll icon with his Fender Telecaster, his good looks, his long blonde hair and his rock'n'roll attitudes. His own favorites were Rolling Stones, Ten Years After, Cactus, Led Zeppelin and Link Wray. He played both guitar and bass with several Danish bands before he decided to go to Los Angeles to explore the rock scene there. He became the original bassist of the band L.A. Guns and a founding member of Guns N' Roses. Singers Axl Rose and Michael Jagosz both had turns as lead vocalist for L.A. Guns during the time Ole Beich was in the band. Beich played a few Guns N' Roses shows in early 1985 before, unlike what many people believe, he himself decided to quit the band because he "couldn't stand the guts of some of the members", and he died in 1991, drowning in Sct. J?rgens lake in the center of Copenhagen, under uncertain circumstances.
He played on the L.A. Guns EP Collector's Edition No. 1.

From Wikipedia. All this is true.

I also live in Esbjerg, so it's kinda cool that Ole was from here He died by driving in Sct. J?rgens lake in his car?

EDIT:
Rob Gardner is a rock drummer who played in early versions of hard rock bands Guns N' Roses and L.A. Guns.

He played in both bands with Axl Rose and Tracii Guns. He also played in L.A. Guns with Michael Jagosz, who replaced Axl Rose in L.A. Guns. He played on the L.A. Guns EP Collector's Edition No. 1.

He was replaced in Guns N' Roses by Steven Adler in 1985.

Also from Wikipedia.

[kaasupoltin]

not to start a fight but doesn't this prove then that Axl and Izzy are really the backbone of GNR?

So those who say GNR isn't GNR without Slash now can realize that he was never an original member.

It depends how you looks at it.. I dont prefer Ole and Rob as original members of Guns n' Roses. "L.A Guns and Hollywood Rose presents the band Guns N' Roses". I think the original line-up is the AFD group, they did all the work and songs and hit the big time. They are the original Gn'R to me.