VELVET REVOLVER Drummer: We Write Songs Faster Than METALLICA Does

[Top-Hatted One]

- drummers can be easily replaced. Look at Steven Adler. But when Slash was replaced that's when the band allegedly "fell apart."

No. According to Izzy the band started to fall apart when Steven was replaced.

The band started to fall apart as a creative unit but in the public's perception the band was still Guns N' Roses. You didn't hear people yelling "ADLER!" at concerts like they yell "Slash!" at "New" GN'R concerts.

I don't think drummers are very important in general compared to most other members of bands, such as vocalists or guitarists. That's just my opinion.

The sound and style of a drummer is important, but sticking someone behind a kit does take them out of the limelight and makes it difficult for anyone to get acquainted with them... that's just the nature of the musician.  But I hated Sorum - he didn't have any real talent in my opinion - - - where was brain when Axl hired matt? 

Brain puts Matt to shame.

Matt's not bad as a drummer, but I simply hate his attitude in real life. He's the type of guy who thinks he's hot shit and is a real self-obsessed jerk. You can tell any time you see interviews or read what he's said/written. I remember seeing a Behind-the-Scenes with VR during an autograph signing and you'd think it was The Matt Sorum Band the way he was hogging the spotlight. It's like, "Dude, the only reason you're there is because of Slash and Duff. Period." If he hadn't been in GN'R and met those guys he never would have been invited to VR - and he'd still be a nobody.

not true. Matt is a really nice guy and very personable member of VR. You can't fault him for enjoying his fame

[Chinese Democracy]

Enjoying fame is one thing but being a self obsessed prick does not make me a fan of his and his drumming technique is really boring. I've read plenty of interviews with him and 90% of the time I walk away losing more and more respect each time he opens his mouth.
I'm honestly amazed that the guy actually has fans. If it weren't for Gnr, he would probably just be known as the touring drummer for The Cult.

[Mikkamakka]

Enjoying fame is one thing but being a self obsessed prick does not make me a fan of his and his drumming technique is really boring. I've read plenty of interviews with him and 90% of the time I walk away losing more and more respect each time he opens his mouth.
I'm honestly amazed that the guy actually has fans. If it weren't for Gnr, he would probably just be known as the touring drummer for The Cult.

You can say the same about other musicians that some board members like. 

I'm not a Matt fan, but his drumming on CB is pretty good 

[BluesGNR]

Enjoying fame is one thing but being a self obsessed prick does not make me a fan of his and his drumming technique is really boring. I've read plenty of interviews with him and 90% of the time I walk away losing more and more respect each time he opens his mouth.
I'm honestly amazed that the guy actually has fans. If it weren't for Gnr, he would probably just be known as the touring drummer for The Cult.

I have to agree.  He's arrogant and can't really back it up.  I was never impressed by him or his 15 minute solos during the illusion era.  Frankly, I'm amazed that people got into it at all.  The best part of those solos were the at the end of the beat when it merged with Slash's solo...

[D]

Great drummers arent irreplaceable.

Any drummer besides Tommy in Motley Crue and its an entirely different band.

I dont think Brain owns Matt, I think we have to wait and see what kind of drumming he has on CD before we can make some sort of claim like that.


I hate Steven Adler but he OWNS both of them.


Matt is a certified TOOL though, i always hated that guy.

[AtariLegend]

- drummers can be easily replaced. Look at Steven Adler. But when Slash was replaced that's when the band allegedly "fell apart."

No. According to Izzy the band started to fall apart when Steven was replaced.

The band started to fall apart as a creative unit but in the public's perception the band was still Guns N' Roses. You didn't hear people yelling "ADLER!" at concerts like they yell "Slash!" at "New" GN'R concerts.

I don't think drummers are very important in general compared to most other members of bands, such as vocalists or guitarists. That's just my opinion.

The sound and style of a drummer is important, but sticking someone behind a kit does take them out of the limelight and makes it difficult for anyone to get acquainted with them... that's just the nature of the musician. But I hated Sorum - he didn't have any real talent in my opinion - - - where was brain when Axl hired matt?

Brain puts Matt to shame.

Matt's not bad as a drummer, but I simply hate his attitude in real life. He's the type of guy who thinks he's hot shit and is a real self-obsessed jerk. You can tell any time you see interviews or read what he's said/written. I remember seeing a Behind-the-Scenes with VR during an autograph signing and you'd think it was The Matt Sorum Band the way he was hogging the spotlight. It's like, "Dude, the only reason you're there is because of Slash and Duff. Period." If he hadn't been in GN'R and met those guys he never would have been invited to VR - and he'd still be a nobody.

not true. Matt is a really nice guy and very personable member of VR. You can't fault him for enjoying his fame

Matt is a good but thats all, its all about the dudes hair, when Lars had long hair Metallica were the greatest thing in Metal but look at him now.

VR will write faster songs than Metallica when Matt changes his hair style.

[PJ]

so in your opinion drummers are like samson..
no hair.. no power

[AtariLegend]

so in your opinion drummers are like sanson..
no hair.. no power

I would say yes but i've no idea what you're talking about.

[-Jack-]

Enjoying fame is one thing but being a self obsessed prick does not make me a fan of his and his drumming technique is really boring. I've read plenty of interviews with him and 90% of the time I walk away losing more and more respect each time he opens his mouth.
I'm honestly amazed that the guy actually has fans. If it weren't for Gnr, he would probably just be known as the touring drummer for The Cult.

You can say the same about other musicians that some board members like.?

I'm not a Matt fan, but his drumming on CB is pretty good?

Lol that was a pretty good come back!

Anyways... my 2cents.. I hated Matts drumming on CB... very.. robot sounding. Especally in Dirty Little Thing... the drums kill that song for me.?

[eddiesson]

VR will write faster songs than Metallica when Matt changes his hair style.

he said they will write songs that are faster, not faster songs 

[COMA4EVA]

drummers can be easily replaced

As Joe Strummer once put it, a band is only as good as its drummer.?

Without Moon, The Who would have been vastly different.

Without Bonham, Led Zep would have been vastly different (and when you see how shitty all their post-Zep work is, it makes you really consider Strummer's comment).

Without Lars, Metallica would be vastly different.

Without Grohl, Nirvana would have been vastly different.

Real hard rock bands need real drummers, and the shortage of good modern drummers may explain the shortage of good modern rock.

[D]

By that rationale does the same go for Adler and GNR?

There music lost a little something when he left.

its still great dont get me wrong but it wasnt as swingy and rhythmic

[darkmonth]

Do you lot even know fuck all about drummers?  Shit... get past the fucking boring MATTS BETTER OR WORSE shit.  Fucking waste of time.

You wanna hear good drumming, fucking forget Tommy Lee, Matt Sorum, Brain, etc... you gotta listen to drummers like David Mackintosh (Dragonforce), Michael 'Moose' Thomas (Bullet for My Valentine), Constable Wills (Story of the Year).

These drummers take drumming to a more musical and structural level than any of the 'classic' guys.  Sorry, but this drummer bullshit fucks me off.  Go listen to the drummers I've listed.

[metallex78]

By that rationale does the same go for Adler and GNR?

There music lost a little something when he left.

its still great dont get me wrong but it wasnt as swingy and rhythmic

I was always a bigger fan of Matt's drumming than Adler's, but I've been listening to AFD allot lately, and I'd have to agree with you. Those songs all have a really great groove thanks to Steve's drumming.

[Genesis]

You wanna hear good drumming, fucking forget Tommy Lee, Matt Sorum, Brain, etc... you gotta listen to drummers like David Mackintosh (Dragonforce), Michael 'Moose' Thomas (Bullet for My Valentine), Constable Wills (Story of the Year).

You forgot Mike Portnoy.

[darkmonth]

Exactly.

I LOVE Matt and Steve and Brain's drumming, all for different reasons.  But when it comes to technique etc, let's remember, that they're straigh ahead rock drummers... so many other drummers doing so much more technical shit.

That said ... I still think Matt Sorum is one of the best because of the stuff he plays, not because of the technique.  Same way Slash is my favorite guitarist because he wrote songs like Nightrain, Don't Damn Me, Coma, etc.  PLUS, he can play his ass off

[BluesGNR]

Do you lot even know fuck all about drummers?? Shit... get past the fucking boring MATTS BETTER OR WORSE shit.? Fucking waste of time.

You wanna hear good drumming, fucking forget Tommy Lee, Matt Sorum, Brain, etc... you gotta listen to drummers like David Mackintosh (Dragonforce), Michael 'Moose' Thomas (Bullet for My Valentine), Constable Wills (Story of the Year).

These drummers take drumming to a more musical and structural level than any of the 'classic' guys.? Sorry, but this drummer bullshit fucks me off.? Go listen to the drummers I've listed.

Please tell me that doesn't say BFMV up there 

 

[Falcon]

Back on topic please, plenty of drummer debate/discussion in the Dead Horse and Jungle sections.

Thank you.

[darkmonth]

Do you lot even know fuck all about drummers?  Shit... get past the fucking boring MATTS BETTER OR WORSE shit.  Fucking waste of time.

You wanna hear good drumming, fucking forget Tommy Lee, Matt Sorum, Brain, etc... you gotta listen to drummers like David Mackintosh (Dragonforce), Michael 'Moose' Thomas (Bullet for My Valentine), Constable Wills (Story of the Year).

These drummers take drumming to a more musical and structural level than any of the 'classic' guys.  Sorry, but this drummer bullshit fucks me off.  Go listen to the drummers I've listed.

Please tell me that doesn't say BFMV up there 

 

Don't be so fucking narrow minded.  And Falcon is right... this is why I said it... because I wanted you lot to stop being such pricks and ranting about how shit or whatever Matt Sorum is on drums...

back on topic!  w00t

[gnrfanxxx]

All GNR drummers rock end of discussion