Do you guys consider these guys actual former members?

[GnR-NOW]

I consider Bucket and Brain members, because they toured with GNR and were they for the first show on 01.01.01, While Bucket's playing was awesome, his look was horrible for the band, I wish Brain would have stayed but they did the right thing by getting players who love the band and love the fans being Frank and Ron. 
I do not consider Josh Freese a member being, we dont know if he even contributed anything to what we ve heard.

[Voodoochild]

Didn't you listen to the old demos?

Freese played on TWAT, IRS and CITR 99 versions. Amazing, by the way. Brain re-recorded the songs in the other demos, tho.

Also, Freese wrote the Chinese Democracy riff, from what I remember.

[droezle]

As far as I'm concerned, Paul Tobias never really left the band - just as Brain.

That's true. They got fired as any other employee. Like Matt and Gilbey for example.

[russtcb]

Didn't you listen to the old demos?

Freese played on TWAT, IRS and CITR 99 versions. Amazing, by the way. Brain re-recorded the songs in the other demos, tho.

Also, Freese wrote the Chinese Democracy riff, from what I remember.

I never got around to digging into who's all playing on what. I'd love to see a break down.

[Voodoochild]

As far as I'm concerned, Paul Tobias never really left the band - just as Brain.

That's true. They got fired as any other employee. Like Matt and Gilbey for example.

Very clever.

Axl himself said how Paul wanted to be just in studio. Never said he left.

Brain is the same.

If you have a hard time to see them as part of the band, just listen to the demos and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I never got around to digging into who's all playing on what. I'd love to see a break down.

I did something like that in other board, I guess. If you interested, I can foward you the link.

[Csavoie]

Buckethead, Paul Tobias, Josh Freese


Do You? I don't . They're more like song writing contributers at this point and not actual former members in my opinion.

I don't know I would have to just buy the Cd and check it out
myself I haven't heard to much of the new guys, I just have to check it out?

[russtcb]

As far as I'm concerned, Paul Tobias never really left the band - just as Brain.

That's true. They got fired as any other employee. Like Matt and Gilbey for example.

Very clever.

Axl himself said how Paul wanted to be just in studio. Never said he left.

Brain is the same.

If you have a hard time to see them as part of the band, just listen to the demos and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I never got around to digging into who's all playing on what. I'd love to see a break down.

I did something like that in other board, I guess. If you interested, I can foward you the link.

I didn't see this response til just now. If you still have this, please forward it. Thanks!