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« on: September 18, 2006, 09:59:07 AM »

I was just wondering why they didn't re-record Civil War with Sorum on the drums for UYII rather than leaving Adler version on but having Sorium do everything else. If Axl was pissed off with him it would be typical Axl to re-record it to stop Adlers royalties.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2006, 10:13:56 AM »

Maybe so that Adler wouldn't complain that he had recorded a 'perfectly fine' drum track for the song and therefore deserved royalties. I really don't know, I've never thought about that before.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006, 10:50:07 AM »

it was already released on a compilation cd and as a radio single...why change it since it was already released...that's my guess
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 10:54:19 AM »

I remember 'Civil War" was released & on the radio in the summer of '90 not '91 like the album. It was on a compilation album long before any UYI tracks or singles were released. I think he was still in the band then (or recently fired).
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 11:53:50 AM »

either way, I am glad Steve was on it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 12:01:01 PM »

I didnt realise it was out ages for the albums.

Cheers for the info.

Im glad it was Adler on it too, he is much better than sorum.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2006, 05:38:41 PM »

Probably the same reason why they are leaving Buckethead on Chinese Democracy.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 06:15:41 PM »

Probably the same reason why they are leaving Buckethead on Chinese Democracy.

Was this ever a fact? It's possible that he won't be on the album.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2006, 06:20:50 PM »

Probably the same reason why they are leaving Buckethead on Chinese Democracy.

Was this ever a fact? It's possible that he won't be on the album.

Then who would be on the album? Bumblefoot has said he won't be on it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2006, 06:23:50 PM »

Probably the same reason why they are leaving Buckethead on Chinese Democracy.

Was this ever a fact? It's possible that he won't be on the album.

Then who would be on the album? Bumblefoot has said he won't be on it.

unless he's been there since he was first rumored to be in 2004 and they are still keeping it quiet so there is at least a bit of secret left to the finished tracks....unless you think the leaks are the completed edit
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006, 06:31:04 PM »

unless he's been there since he was first rumored to be in 2004 and they are still keeping it quiet so there is at least a bit of secret left to the finished tracks....unless you think the leaks are the completed edit

I don't think the leaks are the completed edit, but I don't think Bumblefoot has been there since 2004 either. What if the finished guitar parts were all already recorded and whatever was missing was something like vocals and stuff? Doesn't Axl record the vocals separetly? Plus, it's not all about the guitars. There's still art work, effects, mixing, yadda yadda to be finished.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2006, 06:31:59 PM »

Probably the same reason why they are leaving Buckethead on Chinese Democracy.

Was this ever a fact? It's possible that he won't be on the album.

Then who would be on the album? Bumblefoot has said he won't be on it.

Finck and Fortus.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2006, 06:35:59 PM »

Probably the same reason why they are leaving Buckethead on Chinese Democracy.

Was this ever a fact? It's possible that he won't be on the album.

Then who would be on the album? Bumblefoot has said he won't be on it.

Finck and Fortus.

Then why would Axl want to hire Bumblefoot for the tour if there were only two guitarists on the album?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2006, 06:39:58 PM »

I guess he wanted 3 real guitar players for a live setting.

You do realize that you can have one guitar player in the studio laying down all the guitar parts.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2006, 07:07:38 PM »

Yes, I do realise that. But what makes you think only 2 guitarists are on the album?
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2006, 07:49:01 PM »

cuz the sonag was realased a year before UYIs and they needed to put it out quickly.. so they leave him there
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2006, 05:28:01 PM »

I wonder that to..but..i think Adler would have done it better than sorum..on all songs..Exept The songs over 6 min...Not better...but moore GNR.....Civil War is an example of that..Farm Aid - 1990..That?s how the song should go.. + a little faster and of course that guitar slide before the bridge ( My hands are tied ).....Civil War in Tokyo and on the whole Illusion tour is played wrong....it turns from a great rock / ballad...to like..Metal..because sorum starts hitting the drums very angrily..and the others follow...That?s my opinion...but to answer you...I don?t know..but like people have said..It was already official..  ok
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2006, 12:50:30 PM »

I wonder that to..but..i think Adler would have done it better than sorum..on all songs..

Maybe when he was clean from drugs.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2006, 03:18:57 PM »

I wonder that to..but..i think Adler would have done it better than sorum..on all songs..

Maybe when he was clean from drugs.

Yes of course..we all know what happened when he tried to play with drugs in his system Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2006, 05:00:03 AM »

I'm glad Adler was on the track, I prefer his style in GN'R to Sorum's. No doubt Matt's better tecnically, but IMO Steve had more gn'r soul. Matt's perfect in the Cult, the first Snakepit, NO, etc. though.
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