Ex??White-Boy Poseur?

[polluxlm]

I'm surprised how many people that misunderstands at totally harmless and insightfull comment. No wonder we got so much war and conflict in the world.

[philspectorshotme]

the dirts reply was funny.


and dissing shaq?! thats low considering shaq is gonna be on the record!

[the dirt]

I'm surprised how many people that misunderstands at totally harmless and insightfull comment.

Care to explain what makes these comments so "insightfull"?

[the dirt]

and dissing shaq?! thats low considering shaq is gonna be on the record!

Hey that's right, eh! 

[polluxlm]

I'm surprised how many people that misunderstands at totally harmless and insightfull comment.

Care to explain what makes these comments so "insightfull"?

It has been explained by me and several other people in this thread. Read them again if you don't understand them. Maybe get a parent to explain them.

[the dirt]

They weren't black in the ghetto shooting people, so they were posers.

For a guy who's band doen't have a niche anymore he's not doing himself any favours.

[Mutherfunker]

Why don't some understand?

Of course they were the real deal coming out of the gutter, but the way they behaved is like many other rock n' roll bands, especially from that era - strutting around, posing, kings of the world.

The only difference between Guns and some of the other bands is that their songs sang the truth about their lives, whereas others just wrote stuff out of bravado, and trying to be badass.

Axl's not talking about the music, he's talking about their attitudes - living off the reputation of been bad-asses, strutting around, etc, when guys like NWA had to deal with much worse.

Great to hear him talk with such clarity, and also talking like he thinks he is going to give this album/vband a good shot at being great.

@#$%Funker

[Mikkamakka]

It was just so clear what stupid little white-boy poseurs we were.

What a stupid thing to say. Maybe behind the scene they weren't so hardcore as they made out to be, but to say they were all just "poseurs" is just trying to kill whatever reputation they had left.

Stuff like this kind of gets to me too. It's like he hates their legacy here. If they were so full of shit he should stop playing the old songs entirely, if this is what he believes.

And this is not a case of "studio gangster" stuff. His words not mine. If this is what he really believes...

So true. Playin' AFD and making this kind of statments is stupid. (It was more hardcore or genuine to sing a dozen love songs and make epic piano ballads? ) The NR video isn't about posing, is it?

 I really don't even understand why he said this (if not the journalist made up the whole thing). ?

[dolphin]

Axl also said he just wants to "bury" AFD.

Now, I first meant that to mean that he wants to forget about AFD.

But, he actually meant he wants to surpass it with CD.


Kinda what he says here. ?He wants to focus on making the best record possible and not be labeled or remembered soley for old GNR.

That is my intrepretation of it anyway.

But who really cares. ?CD will be out soon.

[polluxlm]

They weren't black in the ghetto shooting people, so they were posers.

For a guy who's band doen't have a niche anymore he's not doing himself any favours.

That's an unreasonable simplification of the subject. But it is to some extent true, alot of people started considering them as poseurs at that time. It started with Nirvana and continued when gangsta rap took off. It's not any different then what Gn'R did to bands like Crue and posion a decade earlier. ?

And maybe your right about him not doing himself any favours, but come on, he's human. He can't be expected to act on all the right angles every hour of the day.

[Mutherfunker]

Playing AFD songs has nothing to do with what he was saying!

Duh!

The songs are true, and that still stands - he's talking about their attitudes - just because they went through this did not give them the right to go strutting around, thinking they were the baddest motherfuckers, that they had been through it all, when others had it worse.

@#$%Funker

[axlslover]

It was just so clear what stupid little white-boy poseurs we were.

What a stupid thing to say. Maybe behind the scene they weren't so hardcore as they made out to be, but to say they were all just "poseurs" is just trying to kill whatever reputation they had left and one of the things people loved them for.

I definitely agree, what was he thinking, no one has ever thought of guns n roses as poseurs, man dont blow your well deserved reputation

[the dirt]

That's an unreasonable simplification of the subject.

?Then N.W.A. came out rapping about this world where you walk out of your house and you get shot. It was just so clear what stupid little white-boy poseurs we were.

It was his simplification, not mine.

[polluxlm]

That's an unreasonable simplification of the subject.

That's an unreasonable simplification of the subject.

It was his oversimplification, not mine.

No, that's semantics. It's all in the eye of the beholder, apparantly.

[the dirt]

Sorry dude, I corrected ^^

[GNRRRR]

I'm surprised how many people that misunderstands at totally harmless and insightfull comment. No wonder we got so much war and conflict in the world.

I agree, it's a harmless comment. Think what Axl I is saying is that he's taken things a little overboard when he was younger, all that trouble making, arrests, acting like he was invincible...heard it mentioned a number of times on music shows that Guns got bloated and then self-destructed.
He's talking about himself..that's how he feels. He's not ripping his old bandmates or rock/metal bands back in the day.
Maybe some slight regret ...now that's he's older. C'mon guys don't make too much of his comment.

[dolphin]

Playing AFD songs has nothing to do with what he was saying!

Duh!

The songs are true, and that still stands - he's talking about their attitudes - just because they went through this did not give them the right to go strutting around, thinking they were the baddest motherfuckers, that they had been through it all, when others had it worse.

@#$%Funker

I realize this.

I am simply stating that Axl says a lot of things that make him misunderstood.

And take this thread for example.

Everyone is or has a different viewpoint on what he means.

That is what I was implying with my burying AFD comment.

[Mutherfunker]

no probs - I agree  , I was referring to people saying it's stupid to say something like this and play AFD songs.

@#$%Funker

[dolphin]

no probs - I agree? , I was referring to people saying it's stupid to say something like this and play AFD songs.

@#$%Funker

yeah..hence where Double Talkin' Jive Mothefucker comes into play

[A Rose]

no probs - I agree  , I was referring to people saying it's stupid to say something like this and play AFD songs.

@#$%Funker

yeah..hence where Double Talkin' Jive Mothefucker comes into play

That's true.This place is turning into mygnr.forum. People shouldnt get so pissy